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AIBU?

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It’s a LOTR one. I feel so upset over my DHs comment about elves.

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UnhappyHobbit · 06/05/2025 19:53

Name change for this one as it’s slightly outing.

My DH is a huge lord of the rings fan. When my DH and I first got together, he used to “lovingly” joke that I was his hobbit. I’m only 5’3” and I do dress quite quirky so I took it as a compliment. It soon became a bit of a pet name for me and as he’s short too, I likened him to a dwarf.

Over the weekend, We were at one of his friend’s house and he has a relatively new girlfriend. Their kitchen /lounge is slightly open plan so I could hear slightly the conversation my DH was having with his friends. All of his friends are lotr fans and this new gf in the group is very tall. DHs friend was bragging that he had finally managed to pull an elf. My DH exclaimed that it was every man’s dream to pull an elf… One of DHs friends said I thought it was your dream to pull a hobbit, my pet name is known to his friends. DH said he wouldn’t touch a hobbit with those big and hairy feet.

I felt so defeated over this. He has called me a hobbit for years, affectionately so I thought.

I approached him about this after the party and he said that the whole hobbit thing was him teasing me because I’m short. He didn’t want to bring this up as, in his words “I made hobbit my whole personality”. We argued and I said, why is he with me if his dream is someone very tall and well the opposite to me.!? We haven’t spoken since and I’m wondering if I’m over reacting.

Aibu for being devastated and embarrassed by this?

OP posts:
latetothefisting · 07/05/2025 12:20

TheOtherAgentJohnson · 06/05/2025 23:51

Exactly. I will quite openly chat among friends, in front of my husband, about beautiful celebrities. He doesn't cry "but why are you with me, instead of a Hollywood star!", any more than I question why he's with me—a ruddy-faced bumpkin built like a shire horse.

I think there's a bit of a difference for sveral reasons

firstly because presumably when you are chatting about good looking celebritiesyou aren't linking them to real people, whereas here the "celebrities" (elves) were only brought into the conversation in the first place because they were comparing (objectifying) a real woman as one

secondly you probably wouldn't say anything as blatant as
"It's every women's dream to shag Tom hardy" when your partner was in earshot

Finally you wouldn't double down if someone then said something about "ah but don't you like bald rugby players too" and reply "ew no, nobody likes an egg head!"

Tbh I would understand if as some posters have suggested, the DH explained "oh I was just talking about actual hobbits, I didn't even make the link to you!" Or "but youre not a real hobbit!" and apologised. It's still a bit grim to categorise women like that but everyone says stupid things sometimes. It's the fact he didnt give that excuse, suggesting he did mean it, and, worse then turned it back on her saying it's all her fault for playing along with a nickname he gave her, essentially saying she's responsible for him insulting her!

Which if you take away all the LOTR stuff that so many posters can't seem to see past, is just not a very nice way of talking about your wife. (And textbook gaslighting).

If they had just been playing random hypothetical like "would you rather....drive a Delorean or the tardis/be a chaser or a seeker/date an elf or a hobbit" and OP got upset I would probably agree she was being a bit too sensitive (although unlike some people on here I understand that feelings about our looks and bodies aren't always strictly rational so still wouldn't have mocked her for it).

But with his reaction the DH made it needlessly personal and just mean.

MerlinsBeard1 · 07/05/2025 12:21

Member869894 · 07/05/2025 08:54

Sorry op but your post has me CRYING with 😃laughter

The username finished me off😂

NorthernLights5 · 07/05/2025 12:32

I don't know, I'm incredibly attracted to my partner but I'm also attracted to people who look nothing like him (both men and women). I'm attracted to his looks of course but also attracted to his personality and how he treats me. Therefore making him the most attractive person I can think of!

NorthernLights5 · 07/05/2025 12:33

Also, he isn't offended about me being attracted to other people and I'm not offended about him being attracted to others either

SamuelDJackson · 07/05/2025 13:12

Why would you want to pull an elf? Ethereal bloodless beauty, lots of singing, floaty clothes, Arts and Crafts styling.

Rosie Cotton the buxom barmaid though - you knew Sam would end up having more fun in the sack than Aragon, and with minimal poetry

NeverDropYourMooncup · 07/05/2025 13:14

WileyCyrus · 06/05/2025 20:31

Agreed! I meet so many women who say “oh I’m a short arse, I’m tiny, I’m only 5ft 4”
That’s only an inch shorter than my very average 5ft 5. It does annoy me

Walk through any secondary school (I'm including all girls' ones in this) and you'll find that you're about the height of the average year 8 girl and are towered over by the vast majority of Y9-13s.

We will become the little old ladies.

alphabetcrayons · 07/05/2025 13:34

SamuelDJackson · 07/05/2025 13:12

Why would you want to pull an elf? Ethereal bloodless beauty, lots of singing, floaty clothes, Arts and Crafts styling.

Rosie Cotton the buxom barmaid though - you knew Sam would end up having more fun in the sack than Aragon, and with minimal poetry

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Deadringer · 07/05/2025 13:34

I like tall handsome men, my dh is neither but I fell in love with him nonetheless. It wouldn't be nice if he overheard me say so but I think you are over reacting and the whole dwarf, elf hobbit stuff sounds like nonsense to me. BTW I am 5 3 and have always considered myself small, everyone I know irl is taller than me.

TheOtherAgentJohnson · 07/05/2025 13:59

But the DP wasn't talking about his mate's girlfriend. It was the mate who compared his girlfriend to an elf, then the others started chatting about banging elves.

Given this daft conversation was in earshot of OP, which they all would have known, I imagine the DP was blindsided by being confronted about it hours later.

My friends and I have conversations like this—not so much LOTR, but it could be Gladiators, Rivals, Marvel films, anything. If my husband later demanded to know why I'm not with Danny Dyer if I like thick moustaches and full heads of hair so much, I'd be baffled.

This pet name came about because OP is short. Her DP is not turned on by hobbits—I don't think this is controversial.

OP is basically asking "AIBU to think my DP should have pretended he wants to bang hobbits, to soothe my ego?". Maybe he's right, and she has turned this nickname into a bit of an identity.

I can imagine the AIBU if he had said he's sexually attracted to hobbits—"I thought it was his pet name for me because I'm short, but it turns out he actually thinks I look like a hobbit and wishes I had big, hairy feet!"

powershowerforanhour · 07/05/2025 14:29

"Why would you want to pull an elf? Ethereal bloodless beauty, lots of singing, floaty clothes, Arts and Crafts styling."

My thought too. Don't they just waft about looking in mirrors and talking about international politics but not actually doing anything? Whereas hobbits have cracking parties with delicious food and gallons of homebrew, then go off and save the world when it needs doing (comprising 4 out of 9 of the dream team cf 1/9 for the elves) then come home and celebrate with more socialising, food, booze and a roll in the hay? Hobbits all the way. (although my favourite character from the book was Faramir and I definitely would..Éowyn took ages to cop herself on.).

Hotzenplotz · 07/05/2025 14:41

MamaLenny · 06/05/2025 20:48

Tell him he's an orc

🤣 This amused me far too much.

Hotzenplotz · 07/05/2025 14:42

RedToothBrush · 06/05/2025 22:52

I hate cats.

There. I said it.

🙀 Begone, foul demon!

Hotzenplotz · 07/05/2025 14:46

Butchyrestingface · 06/05/2025 21:00

Well, imagine how I feel at 5ft 2" when women of 5ft 6" and above complain about how short they are.

Get tae fuck, you giraffes.

As someone whose "official" height is 5'2", I'm with you! 😁

AnnoyedAsAllHeck · 07/05/2025 14:52

Sherararara · 06/05/2025 20:30

Well that’s one halfling that wont be riding Gandalf’s staff for a while. Smaug git who does he think he is? Upsetting his precious like that?

I am going to need to request that you put a warning on your posts; that they may contain a choking hazard from laughing. I quite near thought I was going to die eating my rice cake while reading your post.

I am telling Sean Astin (Samwise)!

AnnoyedAsAllHeck · 07/05/2025 15:08

HeartyViper · 06/05/2025 21:57

OP, kindly, I can kind of see why you’re upset.. kind of.

Because I really love my DH. He’s a great man, husband, father, lover whatever.

He’s also well aware that if Chris Hemsworth and his thighs of Thor rock up at our house and offer me some login’, I’m kicking him out sooner than one can say ‘hakuna matata’. In reverse, I’m getting booted for Natalie Portman.

All joking aside, surely, we all harmlessly find other people/celebrities attractive, without a hidden agenda or actual plan of adultery? Just some people are attractive and easy to look at?

I wouldn’t overthink it. Explain you were hurt, but that maybe you’ll chill it with the hobbit things.

Mine was Tom Selleck/Magnum P.I. I told my DH I would write and call often if Tom ever rocked up to my door, especially in that red Maserati. Then DH could be "my side piece". LOL!

My DH, on the other hand, said he couldn't want anyone but the perfect person he already has. {cough-cough-bullshite-cough-cough) Yeah, he's a bit of a liar, but I love him💖 anyway. He just provides me with a few 🐮💩🏴to toss occasionally.

AnnoyedAsAllHeck · 07/05/2025 15:15

@UnhappyHobbit All kidding aside, I can see why you were hurt. I don't think your DH meant anything by it, but it was a twatish thing to say when he calls you "his hobbit". It might be time to push aside the LOTR nicknames/fantasies and move on to new pastures. Captain America perhaps? Batman? D&D?

Arraminta · 07/05/2025 15:25

I always thought (and as an ex founder member of The Tolkien Society at my university, I thought about this stuff far too much) that Aragorn would actually be a bit crap in bed. The beautiful, self absorbed blokes always are. Homely guys (like Sam) know they have to work much harder.

MissDoubleU · 07/05/2025 15:58

UnhappyHobbit · 06/05/2025 20:37

Kili would.

In Peter Jackson’s fanfiction, maybe.

Not ever, ever according to Tolkien.

MissDoubleU · 07/05/2025 16:00

Arraminta · 07/05/2025 15:25

I always thought (and as an ex founder member of The Tolkien Society at my university, I thought about this stuff far too much) that Aragorn would actually be a bit crap in bed. The beautiful, self absorbed blokes always are. Homely guys (like Sam) know they have to work much harder.

And work harder he did! Couldn’t keep his hands off Rosie Cotton, the lucky gal.

Uricon2 · 07/05/2025 16:10

Anyway OP, elves aren't all that.

Eowyn- killed the Witch King of Angmar, Lord of the Nazgul in battle, assisted by a Hobbit.

Arwen-embroidered a banner.

I rest my case.

Uricon2 · 07/05/2025 16:16

Slight aside, I know someone who has met Sean Astin through their work several times and apparently he's a really nice bloke.

Arraminta · 07/05/2025 17:16

Uricon2 · 07/05/2025 16:10

Anyway OP, elves aren't all that.

Eowyn- killed the Witch King of Angmar, Lord of the Nazgul in battle, assisted by a Hobbit.

Arwen-embroidered a banner.

I rest my case.

Correct. Let's face it, book Arwen had zero personality and was, no doubt, boring as Hell.

Winterwonders24 · 07/05/2025 17:21

MrsSkylerWhite · 06/05/2025 19:56

You both need to grow up.

Sounds like they've grown up as far as they will": about 5ft 3"

Laurmolonlabe · 07/05/2025 17:57

It's only a book/film, have a chat about it and move on.

JHound · 07/05/2025 17:58

Jesus….