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Argument between my best friend and DH

218 replies

NeedAHol25 · 05/05/2025 14:30

My friend came over on Saturday night. It was my TOM as well as hers (I know this because she had called me earlier in the day as she is TTC and was a bit upset). DH had separate plans which involved him meeting up with friends at the pub. He’d heard me on the phone earlier so was aware of my friend’s TOM.

Friend arrived and DH was still here waiting for his friend to give him a lift. As he was waiting to go out, my friend jokingly said something like ‘escaping us are you’. DH answered this by saying it’s bad enough when it‘s my TOM let alone being in the house when it’s two women’s. This was said in a more derogatory way if you know what I mean.

My friend said that was sexist and not funny. DH told her to get a sense of humour and stop being so uptight. My friend and I went into the kitchen and he got picked up a couple of minutes after.

I spoke to DH when he got home and on Sunday and he was apologetic and said he’d be willing to apologise directly to my friend. I’ve said this to my friend but she’s not willing to accept any apology and thinks he’s an idiot basically.

I am stuck in the middle. Am I being overly harsh to suggest that now a few days have passed,
my friend should accept the apology given its sincere?

OP posts:
nomas · 05/05/2025 16:42

HuffleMyPuffle · 05/05/2025 16:39

Making a comment when you know someone is TOM is not the same as making the comment when you don't know

But why disclose to a woman you know she’s on her period when she never intended you to know? It’s a sexist power move.

You’d never comment on a man’s bodily functions. As you’ve shown by ignoring that bit in my post.

JHound · 05/05/2025 16:44

HuffleMyPuffle · 05/05/2025 14:37

She made a joke about it first and he carried on the joke and she took offence

He's shown remorse and is willing to apologise, she is being petty not to accept it

She did not mention her menstrual cycle.

nomas · 05/05/2025 16:44

HelplessSoul · 05/05/2025 16:41

Everyone has a shit.

Not everyone is a female that has periods.

Have a day off.

So because not everyone is a female who has periods, women are therefore fair game for jokes about their bodies?

Pull the other one.

JHound · 05/05/2025 16:45

HuffleMyPuffle · 05/05/2025 14:38

You wouldn't have made a joke about it in the first place then would you?

She didn’t?

JHound · 05/05/2025 16:46

Sassysoonwins · 05/05/2025 14:38

Lots of men really don't like women I think. He appears to be one of them.

They really really really don’t! They like sex and domestic labour being performed for them.
Aside from that many would rather not have us around.

JHound · 05/05/2025 16:47

EG94 · 05/05/2025 14:41

I’m clearly in the minority where this wouldn’t bother me. I’d likely say don’t blame you I don’t like being around me either when I’m on.

guess I just don’t take too much to heart and fire back instead of being pissy.

friend made it clear comment was not cool with her, hubby offered to apologise she won’t accept. Wonder if she’s like this with everyone. People sometimes get it wrong. She must have a very small circle if she has absolutely no tolerance

Nothing wrong with having a small circle and excluding sexist twats from it.

Springhassprungxx · 05/05/2025 16:48

CinnySally · 05/05/2025 15:07

So the friend is feeling a wee but down as she’s trying for a baby and her period has arrived. Goes over to her mate’s to cheer herself up to discover that her period is actually common knowledge. I think it’s completely normal to feel a bit weird in that situation.

I think it’s a wee bit odd for the DH to be talking to the mate about her period at all. The ‘escaping us’ comment I highly doubt she was referencing them both being on their period I would take that as him having no interest in their chat

This - him commenting has just highlighted that she isn't pregnant so his clumsy attempt at humour backfired.
Might not jave bothered her if she wasn't ttc.

JHound · 05/05/2025 16:49

Sherararara · 05/05/2025 14:48

Love how his joke is somehow worse than hers.
She started it, he reciprocated in kind. She’s been over sensitive and a drama queen. He doesn’t even need to apologise imo.

His joke was sexist nonsense. Hers was not.

JHound · 05/05/2025 16:53

HuffleMyPuffle · 05/05/2025 14:50

I would read that as "oo getting away from us because it's our TOM"

Why on earth would you read it that way unless you were sexist too? Not all of us are a sexist stereotype when we have our periods and her friend had no idea the husband knew she had her period.

Bearhunt468 · 05/05/2025 16:54

She is trying for baby and on her period - therefore unsuccessful month..how inconsiderate to bring that up to her as well as the fact it was just rude. I don't blame your friend for being annoyed.

Wholikesbreadandhoney · 05/05/2025 16:54

To go back to you AIBU about whether you should suggest to your friend she should accept an apology- which he actually hasn't even given her yet: I don't think its your place to involve yourself in this.

Your friend is an adult - whether your H is an adult is debatable - and this argument is between them.

Perhaps if he really is sorry about his behaviour he should try offering the apology to her and she can make her own decision about whether she accepts it.
They shouldn't need you to arbritrate.
And it's not up to you to tell her how she should be feeling.

JHound · 05/05/2025 16:54

HelplessSoul · 05/05/2025 14:55

"My friend said that was sexist and not funny."

OP - your friend is a fucking idiot.

Established fact women have periods - so how the fuck is what your DH said, sexist?

He was being factual.

If your friend is so woke and wet lettucy, perhaps she shouldnt make jokes if she cant handle them back.

Your DH has nothing to apologise for - your friend should apologise for being a dramatic twat TBH.

“Woke”

Jesus wept….

BlackPantherPrincess · 05/05/2025 16:57

nomas · 05/05/2025 14:41

Please never sit on a jury. Especially if it’s about a woman being raped.

Extrapolating much?

JHound · 05/05/2025 16:58

Shmee1988 · 05/05/2025 15:25

I'm seeing the word 'misogynistic' being thrown around quite a lot on this post. Misogynistic meaning: someone who dislikes, despises or is strongly prejudiced against women.... it is a well known fact that alot of women are moody, sensitive etc when it's TOM. The fact that he made a joke about this is not misogynistic or sexist. Women quite often use TOM as an 'excuse' for behaviour... 'oh, sorry I snapped, it's my TOM' etc.... your friend is being unreasonable as are the majority of the other snowflaky comments on this post. I dont know anyone IRL that would take such offence to his comment.

Edited

It’s misogynistic and sexist. It’s a tired sexist trope.

The fact that some women may be difficult on their periods does not mean all women are. He should not even be mentioning her period.

I would if instead of making a joke stereotyping her sex, he made one stereotyping her race if you would still be defending that.

JHound · 05/05/2025 16:59

HuffleMyPuffle · 05/05/2025 15:30

But them both being TOM was apparently common enough knowledge

It would be easy to make the connection

Why would she know the husband knew that? You are really flailing desperately to defend his sexism.

JHound · 05/05/2025 17:00

HuffleMyPuffle · 05/05/2025 15:32

It wasn't a leap to assume she meant "hiding from the hormonal women"

It's also not really that derogatory, women make the same joke about themselves

The fact that some women have internalised misogyny does not make what he said ok.

HunnyPot · 05/05/2025 17:03

My friend said that was sexist and not funny.

She said that to your husband in his own house? Instead of throwing a strop, She should be thanking him for letting her stay.

HuffleMyPuffle · 05/05/2025 17:04

JHound · 05/05/2025 16:53

Why on earth would you read it that way unless you were sexist too? Not all of us are a sexist stereotype when we have our periods and her friend had no idea the husband knew she had her period.

You don't have to be sexist to know women can be more temperamental and emotional when due on

nomas · 05/05/2025 17:04

BlackPantherPrincess · 05/05/2025 16:57

Extrapolating much?

Being able to understand a few basic points should be mandatory for a jury. It’s not extrapolating to say if a poster can’t comprehend a post then I hope they’re never on a jury.

HelplessSoul · 05/05/2025 17:05

nomas · 05/05/2025 16:44

So because not everyone is a female who has periods, women are therefore fair game for jokes about their bodies?

Pull the other one.

Edited

OPs friend shouldnt have dished out her juvenile joke if she cant fucking handle one back in return.

Thats called equality.

As for him knowing about her "TOM", he overheard it - I highly doubt the OPs partner lunged for the fone to hear all about it.

Some people - proper straw and pearl clutchers in extremis.

JHound · 05/05/2025 17:05

HunnyPot · 05/05/2025 17:03

My friend said that was sexist and not funny.

She said that to your husband in his own house? Instead of throwing a strop, She should be thanking him for letting her stay.

It’s OP’s house too.

HuffleMyPuffle · 05/05/2025 17:05

JHound · 05/05/2025 17:00

The fact that some women have internalised misogyny does not make what he said ok.

Women joking about their period isn't internalised misogyny

JHound · 05/05/2025 17:06

HuffleMyPuffle · 05/05/2025 17:04

You don't have to be sexist to know women can be more temperamental and emotional when due on

You really do have to be sexist to believe a sexist stereotype is true for the whole enough to make a sexist joke about it.

ForestFox44 · 05/05/2025 17:08

Personally think she's being OTT... can no one give a quick wit response back anymore or just realise things aren't that deep 🫠 if he's willing to apologise and she won't accept it just leave it...I'm sure they will both get over it

JHound · 05/05/2025 17:08

HuffleMyPuffle · 05/05/2025 17:05

Women joking about their period isn't internalised misogyny

It does when they expand what they know to be true for themselves as an individual to all women.

The fact a woman makes a joke about HERSELF does not suddenly make it ok for this husband to stereotype ALL women.

And women who think it does are dealing with internalised misogyny.