Why are Kneecap not in prison?

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But Lucy Connelly is? Kneecap told people to kill their MPs. Why have they not been arrested.

(To be very clear, I do not condone violence of any kind towards anyone, I'm just asking as this seems like a double standard, can someone explain?)

I will put again what I always put about Palestine:

At the time Palestine was annexed, the world was in turmoil. It was post WW2, 80 million people had been killed, many countries levelled in bombing campaigns, the nukes had been dropped, borders rearranged and territories reshaped, and millions of Jews displaced having watched their loved ones die the most horrific deaths in concentration camps. While what happened in Palestine was not good - land grabs never are - they are far from the only people to be suffering due to global events at that time: and in the scheme of things their suffering was not on the scale of many other countries. Germany had its borders redefined, as did Eastern Europe, Russia, and there were many micro wars over this period resulting in new territories and loss of the old ones. None of it was fair. But it wasn’t a fair time - on anybody. The only way forwards was to accept the changes and accept nobody was in the position they had prior to the war starting. But Palestine is the only issue that still rumbles on and is viewed as uniquely unfair, to the extent events like October 2023 can be carried out and the brainless ‘power-fighting, anti-imperialist’ blue hairs shrug their shoulders and say ‘but Colonialism…’. Jewish people’s lives are seen as cheap, and theirs is the only form of ‘invalid’ inter generational trauma despite the fact what happened to them was uniquely evil in both manner and scale. Not all suffering is equal even if we try to make it as such, and while I think Netanyahu should be put on trial ASAP as war crimes have clearly been committed (and I have no issue saying that), the slightly unintelligent lefty rent-a-mob types have become nothing but useful idiots for oppressive regimes who would probably execute them in the blink of an eye if given the option. Thank Christ there are intelligent people running the show who won’t bend the knee to this kind of simplistic, self defeating thinking.

Tbf the Irish were heavily involved in the British Empire and some of its worst atrocities.

It's perfectly possible to have been colonised and yet be colonisers.

Yes and it’s well within your control to un-partition it.

Well aware of the GFA thanks. Live in the real world though so also aware that things are never that easy and straight forward as just un-partitioning it 🙄

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Why did the comments of a female politician (Jess Phillips) stating she would stab her party leader in the front not create a similar backlash against her?

No such outrage when British soldiers were pictured in Afghanistan in a 'firing party' pose in front of a mock up of a British party leader, Jeremy Corbyn.

A national 'newspaper' columnist with 200k followers on twitter writing an article with a caption of Jeremy Corbyn in a coffin with the headline 'Labour must kill vampire Jezza'. Barely a murmur.
Frank Hester, huge Tory party donor and his comments on Diane Abbott. Still embraced by Tories.

The Liberal Dem candidate who issued a leaflet say the only good Tory is a dead Tory.

There are numerous other incidents that could be cited. Yet Kneecap who come from and represent communities who have walked the walk are all over the media for comments made at events with a few hundred/thousand people in attendance.
Well done to them for calling out Israel who for the past 50 days have prevented humanitarian and medical aid entering Gaza. Whose politicians have openly boasted about wanting to exterminate all Palestinians, whose settlers openly boast about stealing land and murdering Palestinians who live there.
Over 50,000 murdered and the outrage over a few words said 2 years ago 🙄

I don't think they should be in prison, no.
If anything I'm sure that would make them all the more popular among extremists and criminals.

You’re supporting terrorism.

Where did they say they support Hamas?

Amnesty concludes Israel is committing genocide in Gaza
Apart from this one obv 🙄

More irrelevant paternalistic lecturing.

Irish involvement in the British empire is absolutely not relevant to the social phenomenon of people who have grown up in England telling people in Northern Ireland all about their own history and that they should get over it.

I said explicitly, and in bold below, that Netanyahu needs to go on trial urgently for war crimes.

Fully condemn this as well. Can’t speak for the British authorities but I can speak for myself, and you won’t get any whataboutism from me - no such threats are ok.

As for ‘calling out Israel’, LOL. Which organisation or left wing band hasn’t done this over the last 18 months? It’s hardly a stunningly brave statement, is it? They didn’t call out Israel, they changed ‘up Hamas, up Hezbollah’ and posted this image. How would you excuse this away, as no doubt you will do?

I was replying to User46576
She stated that "The only genocide in Israel is that perpetrated by hamas"
I haven't read your post

Can anyone explain this away..?

It's also a play on an Irish language phrase / joke...Two men in the IRA are walking down the street and they see a man sitting on a wall.

"Do you think that man's in the UVF?" says Martin
Then Gerry says "Ni ceapaim" which is irish for "I dont think so" but sounds like "Kneecap him".

Kneecap are also vocally anti sectarian and support projects helping working class kids with traditionally different backgrounds to them.

This. Due process.

It's relevant when others raise the issue of 'the colonisers hat'.

People in glass houses cherrypick to suit their narrative.
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Jesus, some are so overly invested in this and spouting absolute shite.

As for putting Kneecap in prison - that worked out well last time it was tried in Ireland.
My message to Kneecap in our own beautiful language 💚
Leagfaidh tua beag crann mór

I thought the language had been stolen?

They chant in support of the IRA

They are the opposite of anti-sectarian. They promote hatred and division.

“ social phenomenon of people who have grown up in England telling people in Northern Ireland all about their own history and that they should get over it.”
This is a made up social phenomenon .

3 not very well educated wee laddies telling people to kill their local mp

What do they chant in support of the IRA? I know the Wolfe tones, Nigel farage, the Irish women's football team etc all love ooh ah up the ra but I haven't seen kneecap do that one. Given that SF/IRA are part of the establishment in west Belfast the hood culture that kneecap depict is as much against them as it is any other authority figure. You can. Also need include the catholic church in that, it isnt just as simple as republican=catholic=ira=hate all Brits.

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Kneecap are a trio of absolute cosplaying arseholes and should be widely mocked for their stupidity. Their apology statement being example of their 'sorry not sorry' bollocks.

They shouldn't be arrested but we can only hope they keep getting their gigs cancelled and disappear back under the rock from whence they came.

They didn't mean it though oh nooo, 'kill your MP' was taken out of context 🙄.