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Why are Kneecap not in prison?

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BlossomBlanket · 29/04/2025 19:49

But Lucy Connelly is? Kneecap told people to kill their MPs. Why have they not been arrested.

(To be very clear, I do not condone violence of any kind towards anyone, I'm just asking as this seems like a double standard, can someone explain?)

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EllyMcBelly · 01/05/2025 13:42

user1484264563 · 01/05/2025 13:32

It absolutely is a criminal offence to support Hamas or any other proscribed terror organisation by any method. 👇

"It is a criminal offence to invite support for a proscribed organisation (the support invited need not be material support, such as the provision of money or other property, and can also include moral support or approval)" ..

So is it criminal to arm the IOF in the West Bank?

OpheliaWasntMad · 01/05/2025 13:43

EllyMcBelly · 01/05/2025 13:41

What I find truly remarkable is how much more incensed people are by these comments made than an ACTUAL g3nocide happening in Gaza. Than decades of occupation and oppression. Than horrific settler violence in the West Bank. By theft of land through illegal settlements. By actual apartheid.

what they said two years ago wasn’t ok. But surely you see this for the distraction it’s meant to be.

StopTheGenocide! Free Palestine!

What is wrong with you !!!
We can be appalled at BOTH the suffering in Gaza AND at Kneecap’s support for Hamas and Hezbollah .

OpheliaWasntMad · 01/05/2025 13:44

EllyMcBelly · 01/05/2025 13:42

So is it criminal to arm the IOF in the West Bank?

Deflection and derailment

Wonderberry · 01/05/2025 13:44

EllyMcBelly · 01/05/2025 13:42

So is it criminal to arm the IOF in the West Bank?

There is no such thing as the IOF.

devourfeculence · 01/05/2025 13:51

marmaladeandpeanutbutter · 01/05/2025 13:07

This looks like a coordinated campaign. They’re just kids.

A 36 year old is a kid now? That's good to know, wonder if I can start getting kids prices again.

EllyMcBelly · 01/05/2025 13:56

Wonderberry · 01/05/2025 13:44

There is no such thing as the IOF.

The West Bank is under Israeli occupation. Ergo the military who are enforcing the occupation are the Israeli Occupation Force. IOF.

OpheliaWasntMad · 01/05/2025 13:59

EllyMcBelly · 01/05/2025 13:56

The West Bank is under Israeli occupation. Ergo the military who are enforcing the occupation are the Israeli Occupation Force. IOF.

Nothing to do with this thread and Kneecap’s support of terrorism

Does not justify Kneecap’s stance in any way

EllyMcBelly · 01/05/2025 14:00

OpheliaWasntMad · 01/05/2025 13:43

What is wrong with you !!!
We can be appalled at BOTH the suffering in Gaza AND at Kneecap’s support for Hamas and Hezbollah .

What Is wrong with me is I can’t equate the two.
I don’t agree with what kneecap said at all, but to have the same (or higher) level of reaction compared to 10s of thousands of innocent people being brutally slaughtered, starved and terrorised following decades of ongoing brutality is unconscionable.

Stop The Genocide
Free Palestine

OpheliaWasntMad · 01/05/2025 14:01

EllyMcBelly · 01/05/2025 14:00

What Is wrong with me is I can’t equate the two.
I don’t agree with what kneecap said at all, but to have the same (or higher) level of reaction compared to 10s of thousands of innocent people being brutally slaughtered, starved and terrorised following decades of ongoing brutality is unconscionable.

Stop The Genocide
Free Palestine

nothing to do with this thread and Kneecap’s support of terrorism
Does not justify Kneecap’s stance in any way

Gloriia · 01/05/2025 14:11

EllyMcBelly · 01/05/2025 14:00

What Is wrong with me is I can’t equate the two.
I don’t agree with what kneecap said at all, but to have the same (or higher) level of reaction compared to 10s of thousands of innocent people being brutally slaughtered, starved and terrorised following decades of ongoing brutality is unconscionable.

Stop The Genocide
Free Palestine

Why don't you try saying down with hamas! end the war! Mayhe even free the hostages?

Wonderberry · 01/05/2025 14:22

EllyMcBelly · 01/05/2025 13:56

The West Bank is under Israeli occupation. Ergo the military who are enforcing the occupation are the Israeli Occupation Force. IOF.

You can live in your fictitious world all you like. The rest of us live in the real world.

Israel left Gaza, look what happened to it. They voted in a terrorist organisation, who decimated the economy and carried out an horrific terrorist attack, starting a war.

EllyMcBelly · 01/05/2025 14:23

Gloriia · 01/05/2025 14:11

Why don't you try saying down with hamas! end the war! Mayhe even free the hostages?

Stop the Genocide is what I’m saying. It’s not a war - it’s a bully kicking a toddler.

Hamas have offered to return all hostages but Bibi and his mates have said no because they’d have to stop the current ethnic cleansing.

You know this started long before Oct 7th 2023, don’t you?
You know settlers in the West Bank are breaking international law, don’t you?
You know that collective punishment is a war crime, don’t you?

Wonderberry · 01/05/2025 14:23

This is what I meant. I'm glad there are allies against terrorism, but I'm equally shocked at the number of terrorist sympathisers on this thread.

Gloriia · 01/05/2025 14:23

'innocent people being brutally slaughtered, starved and terrorised'

The only emaciated people I've seen have been the hostages. Hamas do need to stop slaughtering and terrorising innocent people though yes.

Wonderberry · 01/05/2025 14:24

EllyMcBelly · 01/05/2025 14:23

Stop the Genocide is what I’m saying. It’s not a war - it’s a bully kicking a toddler.

Hamas have offered to return all hostages but Bibi and his mates have said no because they’d have to stop the current ethnic cleansing.

You know this started long before Oct 7th 2023, don’t you?
You know settlers in the West Bank are breaking international law, don’t you?
You know that collective punishment is a war crime, don’t you?

Surely you condemn Hamas, a terrorist organisation? They are the ones advocating for genocide against Jews: it is within their charter. You need to stop the victim narrative.

Wonderberry · 01/05/2025 14:25

If we all agree we are against terrorism, then we are agreed that Kneecap are wrong to support terrorist organisations. Anything else is deflection.

Gloriia · 01/05/2025 14:27

'Stop the Genocide is what I’m saying. It’s not a war - it’s a bully kicking a toddler'

It is a conflict. If hamas returned the hostages, stood down and handed over power to another palestinian group some progress may be made but they won't. They will hide among civilians then act all horrified when others are sadly killed.

Those cheeky little kneecap 'kids' could try with a more generic 'peace in Israel and gaza' rather then their goady 'fuck Israel' hate.

EllyMcBelly · 01/05/2025 14:29

Wonderberry · 01/05/2025 14:22

You can live in your fictitious world all you like. The rest of us live in the real world.

Israel left Gaza, look what happened to it. They voted in a terrorist organisation, who decimated the economy and carried out an horrific terrorist attack, starting a war.

Maybe do some ACTUAL research.
This all started long before Hamas even existed, and you know it.
Israel didn’t “leave” Gaza - it was essentially an open air prison. Whatever your beliefs, what Israel has done since Oct 7th 2023 has been utterly disproportionate.

Zionism is anti semitic and Palestine has a right to exist. Palestinians have a right to live on the land their family has lived on for generations.

Free Palestine
Stop The Genocide

devourfeculence · 01/05/2025 14:30

EllyMcBelly · 01/05/2025 14:23

Stop the Genocide is what I’m saying. It’s not a war - it’s a bully kicking a toddler.

Hamas have offered to return all hostages but Bibi and his mates have said no because they’d have to stop the current ethnic cleansing.

You know this started long before Oct 7th 2023, don’t you?
You know settlers in the West Bank are breaking international law, don’t you?
You know that collective punishment is a war crime, don’t you?

Is the toddler in your analogy Hamas? Because I've never heard of a toddler who raped, killed and kidnapped over a thousand people.

Wonderberry · 01/05/2025 14:31

EllyMcBelly · 01/05/2025 14:29

Maybe do some ACTUAL research.
This all started long before Hamas even existed, and you know it.
Israel didn’t “leave” Gaza - it was essentially an open air prison. Whatever your beliefs, what Israel has done since Oct 7th 2023 has been utterly disproportionate.

Zionism is anti semitic and Palestine has a right to exist. Palestinians have a right to live on the land their family has lived on for generations.

Free Palestine
Stop The Genocide

Using caps lock doesn't make you right.

Your post is so full of inaccuracies it is almost hilarious, if not for the very real consequences of supporting terrorism.

Once again, do you support Hamas?

WhereIsMyJumper · 01/05/2025 14:34

All through west Belfast, the unionist areas are flying Israeli flags and the nationalists are flying the Palestine flag.

They’re using the Israel/Palestine situation to further their tribalism. It’s not surprise to me that Kneecap, growing up in that environment, are perpetuating.

And as this thread clearly shows, politics has become extremely tribal. Like an exaggerated version of which football team do you support. Nobody seems to be able to accept nuance in these situations anymore and this is what perpetuates hate and violence.

EllyMcBelly · 01/05/2025 14:34

devourfeculence · 01/05/2025 14:30

Is the toddler in your analogy Hamas? Because I've never heard of a toddler who raped, killed and kidnapped over a thousand people.

No. The toddler is 2m civilians who are kettled, starved and bombarded.

I’ve never heard of a democracy stealing land for decades, imprisoning, raping, murdering 10’s of ‘0000’s since the Nakba or even earlier. Yet here we are. Pretending about democracy and sovereignty.

EllyMcBelly · 01/05/2025 14:35

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ComeAsYouAreAsAFriend · 01/05/2025 14:35

Interesting to see where all this ends up. The UK government may regret opening this particular can of worms.

Absolutely the law needs to be upheld but they may be forced to ensure it is upheld equally across all sections of society.

EllyMcBelly · 01/05/2025 14:40

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