Why are Kneecap not in prison?

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But Lucy Connelly is? Kneecap told people to kill their MPs. Why have they not been arrested.

(To be very clear, I do not condone violence of any kind towards anyone, I'm just asking as this seems like a double standard, can someone explain?)

On the issue of Kneecap, I think people in the mainland UK forget that the situation in Northern Ireland is very different. There has long been a more aggressive type of "political" music that borders on the mainstream here. There are plenty of Unionist songs celebrating various paramilitary groups or being abusive to Irish Nationalists and the Pope (I know the latter position is currently vacant, I mean to the position of the Pope). There's also an equally strong Nationalist music scene that celebrates the actions of the IRA.

It's not mainstream in that it's not usually the sort of music that will get to the Top 10 in the charts, but it's mainstream enough that most people in Northern Ireland and the republic know some of the songs. You only have to look at the Irish Women's Football team singing a pro-IRA song a couple of years ago after a World Cup playoff win. The fact that some of them claimed not to know that "up the 'Ra" was supporting the IRA just illustrates that it had become a mainstream song in Ireland, people were aware of the song if maybe (if you want to give them the benefit of the doubt) the meaning.

In Northern Ireland the division between Unionists and Nationalists permeates life, and art is no exception. Sometimes it takes the form of murals on houses, sometimes in music.

Clearly this doesn't excuse incitement to murder, but I'm not surprised that Kneecap are surprised by all the fuss their incitement to murder has caused.

'No. The toddler is 2m civilians who are kettled, starved and bombarded'

But Egypt doesn't want them either, are they 'ketting' them? Who is starved, the only starved people we've seen have been the hostages.

They need to get shot of hamas, free the hostages and try to negotiate. They wont though they want to get rid of Jews from <checks notes> 'the river to the sea'.

clearly you drank the Zionist colonial kool-aid

Oh, you're that poster.

'All through west Belfast, the unionist areas are flying Israeli flags and the nationalists are flying the Palestine flag.They’re using the Israel/Palestine situation to further their tribalism. It’s not surprise to me that Kneecap, growing up in that environment, are perpetuating.'

It's pathetic isn't it. You're right, no wonder they've grown up to be such arseholes being brought up in such a toxic tribalistic environment.

Probably because Kneecap are entertainers doing Rap. Which is all attention grabbing metaphors and figures of speech. And their listeners are well aware of this. Nobody rushed out to join Hamas or kill their MP.
Whereas Connelly's tweets applied to real things happening in real time. Hundreds of people trying to burn asylum seekers to death.
Still I think she got too long. She will be a poster girl for the violent far right now.

They are very critical of the IRA and its hypocrisy on drug use. And the fact it was full of informers. Kneecap don't seek to gaf who they criticise. Maybe 'inform' yourself?

'Kneecap don't seek to gaf who they criticise'

Have you seen their panicky 'sorry we didn't mean it' statement?

Yes this was the point I was making about opening a can of worms, let's see how far the UK government are willing to apply this law equally, it may come back to bite them on the proverbials

Yes - I see what you mean. There are definitely terrorist sympathisers on here and unsurprisingly they are supporters of Kneecap.

“ Nobody rushed out to join Hamas or kill their MP”
But people HAVE killed MPs here on the basis of extremist incitement . So it is reasonable to be very concerned..

Your minimising of the glorification of terrorism as “metaphors and figures of speech” is sickening given what we know about Hamas .

Whatever happens it's good to know kneecap have destroyed their own career. There was once a promising hip hop outfit called NWA and they released a song called 'fuck the police' that caused a similar reaction / government investigation.
If they go the same way that they did I'm sure they'll be gutted. https://www.bbc.com/news/business-27350075

I agree with a lot of this and I’m familiar with the songs etc you mention. Most express sentiments of a bygone age (thank goodness ) .
Kneecap have taken things too far with their support for Hamas, their calls for killing of MPs , their horrible name which glorifies torture , their balaclavas which allude to paramilitaries…

But they say they don’t support Hamas, or killing anyone?

In a statement, issued on X, Kneecap said: "Let us be unequivocal: we do not, and have never, supported Hamas or Hezbollah.
"We condemn all attacks on civilians, always. It is never okay.”

I hate their name too.

I imagine Kneecap hoped the controversy they generate would lead to fame and fortune for them.
I don’t believe for one minute they truly care about ordinary Palestinians . No one who supports the Iran funded terrorist group that has brought hell to Gaza can truly say they support ordinary Palestinians.

They’re backtracking.
Unlike their supporters on this thread who have said it’s just “metaphorical language “ from “kids”

There was once a promising hip hop outfit called NWA

You clearly know nothing about NWA or their members to think it destroyed their career

I imagine Kneecap hoped the controversy they generate would lead to fame and fortune for them.
The footage under investigation is from a concert 2 years ago they didn't blast it from the rooftops thinking it would bring them fame and fortune. The only reason they have publicly and fame now is because of their movie. They have been an underground cult outfit for years. I doubt you even heard of them 2 years ago.

I don’t believe for one minute they truly care about ordinary Palestinians
You are very wrong in that assumption.

Anyone who supports Hamas is not truly concerned about ordinary Palestinian lives - don’t you agree?

They’re backtracking.

@OpheliaWasntMad
So are you absolutely certain that they literally wanted people to go out and murder MPs?

No doubt I’ll be accused of being a terrorist too (I’m most certainly not!) but that seems far-fetched to me.

I don’t know what they literally wanted. I do know that calling for actual real people to be killed ( even if you don’t really mean it ) is a dangerous thing to do and constitutes threatening behaviour.

I teach and children are always saying “ I didn’t mean it “ when they say objectionable things. That’s OK because they’re children and need to learn self control.
Kneecap are grown men in their thirties with a public profile who think it’s ok to incite violence. It’s not OK

Yes but I don't believe they support Hamas.

You don’t have the right to call anyone on this thread a terrorist sympathiser. Everyone on here has condemned terrorism

Are we reading the same thread? There are many here who have sympathised with Hamas. I wish that wasn't the case. Are you ready to condemn them?

I have followed the thread I have not seen anyone sympathise with Hamas

@OpheliaWasntMadThe people who care least about ordinary Palestinian’s lives are the Israeli government.