Trans protest- sharing for balance

[Tandora]

There’s a thread sharing some really awful images from the protest, so I wanted to share some positive ones for the sake of some perspective/ balance.
A lot of people are really understandably incredibly angry and overwhelmed by the events of the last few days. But most people who support trans rights absolutely don’t condone fighting oppression and injustice with misogyny.

This is the problem. That's exactly what happened with Katie/Lennon Dolatowski. (Why do I keep referring to that case? Because both crimes involving children happened a short distance from my home - 20 miles in one direction for the voyeurism; 10 miles away for the attempted rape.) After the high profile of the Dolatowski case (and the Peter Laing/Paris Green case before that) we had at least another two male criminals from the area claiming female identity in an attempt to enter the women's prison estate.

The only attempt made by Katie to transition appears to be the use of filters on social media, growing his hair (doesn't look any different from the long hair that I remember from the '70s) and using women's spaces.

The 10 yr old girl (who successfully fought off the attempted rape by punching Katie in the groin) and her family informed police and the local press that they believed Katie Dolatowski to be a man. Nevertheless, Lennon was already Katie at the time of the attacks and felt entitled to use women's spaces.

Dolatowski was placed in a men's prison at one point, but then was moved into the women's estate after beating up another male prisoner. After a short stay, Dolatowski was discharged, but finished up in the male prison estate again a year later.

https://www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/news/courts/3890638/katie-dolatowski-prison-assault/

Why did TRA’s vandalise the Millicent Fawcett statue?

@Tandora ??????

So...maybe there is no science then....🤷

Thank you for this, an excellent summation by someone who is eminently qualified to make it. ( though people who don't want to hear it will still find a reason to fault it of course)

Because they're common or garden incels

Mussolini made the trains run on time, that doesn't make fascism a good thing. Any more than pedalling bullshit without actual threats of violence makes the message "positive".

This. Transactivists don’t want women to exist. ‘Literal genocide’ of women to use their phraseology.

Don't need any balance. Trans women aren't women period. A protest won't change the judgment. Fed up of this stuff now. Taking hormone pills, transitioning surgically (many don't), wearing makeup etc doesn't make you a woman. The judgment is the judgment.

Because they wanted to publicly demonstrate that they hate women.

Because it didn't occur to them not to. A manifestation of the deep disrespect for women that is inherent in the 'movement'.

Re balance, I quote Aaron Sorkin (Newsroom):

… We don't pretend that certain facts are in dispute to give the appearance of fairness to people who don't believe them. Balance is irrelevant to me. It has nothing to do with the truth, logic, or reality. He didn't go on the air telling people to give peace a chance, but evolution? The jury's back on that one …

But according to a different thread it's not that bad because they just used chalk 🤦.

I think we all know where they 'get off'

"The fear women are feeling is around men not transwomen!" Most women actually fear both - and this is why ...

And, out of interest, where has the load of bollocks come from that is “predatory men are the problem, not TW” come from?

Have they not seen the offence rate of TW? Barely a week goes by without another being found guilty of some sex crime or other.
I’m not accusing all TW of this, but at the same time I’m not doing the TRA dance avoiding all of the offences.

Have a look at Transcrimeuk.com if you don’t believe me.

I remember a period of time where there were a great many TW informing policies, creating public art, training police, being a vocal part of the Labour Party etc, and one by one every single one was found to be guilty of something really bad, like paedophilia, or having committed domestic violence pre-transitioning, or behaving really badly towards women. Ripx4nutmeg on Twitter (if still there) used to keep track of this.

But if you show these crime statistics you’re accused of basically being Hitler - for being a woman who does not want to share vulnerable spaces with MEN. I mean, fuck off with that shit. Have some loyalty to fucking women!!

Science doesn't lie. A simple blood test can confirm a persons sex. It is a scientific fact.

I do find it a very difficult debate. On one hand I do want Trans people to live their truth and love as they want. A lot of trans women I have seen online sharing their views would not be someone I would even register as potentially not being female if I saw the in a woman's toilet. So I think a lot of trans women will still be able to use the women's toilets.

However I do believe that protection needs to be given to women and girls in female spaces. I was horrified to read the article about the woman who was raped in a hospital ward was told it could not have happened as there were no men on the ward. It's absolute madness this happened. You may say that is only one example, but one is enough for me. The fact is I would not feel comfortable sending my daughter into use a woman's bathroom or changing room of a person with a penis was there. Regardless of how they identify.

But transwomen do deserve safe spaces. They absolutely should be provided the same safeguarding as women but not at the expense of women. We will have to see how that will evolve now that the law has been made clear.

The excuses for the incels are endless

Yet here you are, posting nonsense, but you can't answer any reasonable questions.

And anyone who wants to call me cis can fuck off too.

Thanks.

Utterly reprehensible behaviour.

Again:
Katie Dolatowski’s (transwoman)
victim (10 year old girl)
victim’s father - standing outside the toilets.
Do you really think he wouldn’t have followed the TW in if the old social understanding that men stay out of women’s toilets was still applied?

And, for the record, Ministry of Justice figures suggest the proportion of sexual offenders among transwomen is at least as high as it is among men. They don’t’ need to wear a dress to assault women, but it makes it soooo much easier if they can access spaces where women are vulnerable.

I think you are right.

Shame on them.

@Tandora what is the distinction between "cis men" and trans women then? Where does that distinction lie, other than how they feel about themselves? There is zero scientific evidence that a biological male having "the feels" that he's a woman makes him female - it's an identity they're assuming, doesn't make it reality! It's so utterly offensive to women - actual, biological females.

Being female is not a "feeling" and is rooted in actual biological reality, a biological reality that actual females live with every day.

Can't believe that had to be said in 2025!

Exactly. That's what they think, so why wouldn't they? Recent events have provoked them into dropping the mask.

Thank you