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Trans protest- sharing for balance

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Tandora · 20/04/2025 11:47

There’s a thread sharing some really awful images from the protest, so I wanted to share some positive ones for the sake of some perspective/ balance.
A lot of people are really understandably incredibly angry and overwhelmed by the events of the last few days. But most people who support trans rights absolutely don’t condone fighting oppression and injustice with misogyny.

Trans protest- sharing for balance
Trans protest- sharing for balance
Trans protest- sharing for balance
Trans protest- sharing for balance
Trans protest- sharing for balance
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Hoppinggreen · 20/04/2025 14:20

Tandora · 20/04/2025 14:11

I don’t know what you mean when you say that but I always find it creepy

As creepy as Men who think they don't need womens consent to enter women only spaces?

pirateshirt · 20/04/2025 14:21

Tandora · 20/04/2025 14:14

Trans women are women. Are they exactly the same in all aspects as cis women? No. Are there circumstances in which it might be legitimate to treat these groups differently due to physical (or potentially other ) differences ? Yes.
In so far as this is all the judgement said then I don’t object to the judgement.

But the way that the judgement has been interpreted as mandating the exclusion of trans women - and anyone who doesn’t conform to some unspecified definition of “biological female” - from all women’s spaces- is a dangerous new variety of fascism.

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Look, I don't mean to be completely rude - but a quick AS of threads you've started shows you to be remarkably ignorant about the workings of the human body. I really don't think you should be pontificating on this topic.

Tandora · 20/04/2025 14:21

Allergictoironing · 20/04/2025 14:20

I've also noticed that just about all your rhetoric, and that I've heard about the "non-violent" protests and in fact all the loud comments previously, are only ever about transwomen never transmen.

I never hear of transmen threatening to stuff a barbed wire covered truncheon up the arse of a man to punish them, or to stab them for their views, or to hope they get burned in a grease fire, or anything like that.

It also seems strange that there is such a massive imbalance between the numbers of men wanting to transition to women vs women wanting to transition to men, and most especially when the transitions are in name/actions only & without surgery. Can you link us to the research that looks into that?

please don’t pretend you care about trans men. The current situation affects them just as badly, although they are not your primary target re spaces. Healthcare is a different matter of course.

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Alondra · 20/04/2025 14:22

Riaanna · 20/04/2025 14:13

Pity you started with breast cancer. Because they can.

Yeah, because they have breast tissue and massive doses of estrogen. It's self inflicted.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 20/04/2025 14:22

ThatPearlFish · 20/04/2025 14:18

I'm wondering what's going to happen if trans men now use female spaces. I keep reading on here that trans men can pass much more easily than trans women and that they are most welcome in women's spaces.. So isn't it going to be a bit of an invitation to men with nefarious intentions to enter women's spaces and claim to be a trans man? How is anyone going to know who is who? Many trans men look extremely male, it's very hard to tell. How are they going to prove it?

Do you think masculine looking women should stay out of the ladies?

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 20/04/2025 14:23

Tandora · 20/04/2025 14:14

Trans women are women. Are they exactly the same in all aspects as cis women? No. Are there circumstances in which it might be legitimate to treat these groups differently due to physical (or potentially other ) differences ? Yes.
In so far as this is all the judgement said then I don’t object to the judgement.

But the way that the judgement has been interpreted as mandating the exclusion of trans women - and anyone who doesn’t conform to some unspecified definition of “biological female” - from all women’s spaces- is a dangerous new variety of fascism.

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Blah blah blah fascism, blah blah blah trans erasure blah blah blah endless whataboutery.

One thing I will say is that the people that follow this ideology are amongst the most humourless people I have ever encountered, so far up the backside of this nonsense that they bore people to tears.

Riaanna · 20/04/2025 14:23

Tandora · 20/04/2025 14:20

well this is completely false isn’t it?

Explain to me what I have in common with a trans woman? One thing.

ThatCyanCat · 20/04/2025 14:24

Alondra · 20/04/2025 14:22

Yeah, because they have breast tissue and massive doses of estrogen. It's self inflicted.

No, men do naturally have a small amount of breast tissue. It's not common for them to get breast cancer but it can happen. They're still men.

AnSolas · 20/04/2025 14:24

Tandora · 20/04/2025 13:26

Every single person who says that trans women are men for one.

Saying that a transwoman is a man will not make any transwoman disappear they will continue to exist

Hoppinggreen · 20/04/2025 14:24

ThatPearlFish · 20/04/2025 14:18

I'm wondering what's going to happen if trans men now use female spaces. I keep reading on here that trans men can pass much more easily than trans women and that they are most welcome in women's spaces.. So isn't it going to be a bit of an invitation to men with nefarious intentions to enter women's spaces and claim to be a trans man? How is anyone going to know who is who? Many trans men look extremely male, it's very hard to tell. How are they going to prove it?

So are we saying that some perverts claim to be something they are not to enter women only spaces with nefarious intentions?
Wow, women have certainly never been concerned about THAT before this ruling!!!

andtheworldrollson · 20/04/2025 14:25

Come on - if transowmen are women - how do I know if I am a man, a woman, a transman, a transwoman or a cat ?

aylis · 20/04/2025 14:25

Tandora · 20/04/2025 14:21

please don’t pretend you care about trans men. The current situation affects them just as badly, although they are not your primary target re spaces. Healthcare is a different matter of course.

Actually the only people who have demonstrably cared about trans men are women who have wanted to ensure that they still have their rights, including to healthcare, upheld as the females they are, and to access to the correct services instead of having self harm, anorexia, trauma, sexual abuse and confusion about sexuality funneled into a gender service with one pathway.

Riaanna · 20/04/2025 14:25

Alondra · 20/04/2025 14:22

Yeah, because they have breast tissue and massive doses of estrogen. It's self inflicted.

That’s also not correct. Breast cancer in men - albeit rare - has always existed.

DrPrunesqualer · 20/04/2025 14:25

Tandora · 20/04/2025 14:21

please don’t pretend you care about trans men. The current situation affects them just as badly, although they are not your primary target re spaces. Healthcare is a different matter of course.

Women don’t have a target

Men and transwomen do.

ThisFluentBiscuit · 20/04/2025 14:25

Scentbird · 20/04/2025 13:07

How is not wanting them in female spaces not wanting them to exist?

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The two beliefs go together for the terfs. They HATE transwomen with a passion. Read my previous post about the thread earlier this week.

Tandora · 20/04/2025 14:25

AnSolas · 20/04/2025 14:24

Saying that a transwoman is a man will not make any transwoman disappear they will continue to exist

It erases / denies their existence as a trans person. A society that organises itself around this belief (an transwoman is a man) and enforces it , is a society in which it is impossible for a trans person to live as a trans person.

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Allergictoironing · 20/04/2025 14:25

Alondra · 20/04/2025 14:22

Yeah, because they have breast tissue and massive doses of estrogen. It's self inflicted.

This one I will object to - it's perfectly possible for a man who hasn't had any sex hormones to get breast cancer, just incredibly rare.

Hoppinggreen · 20/04/2025 14:26

Tandora · 20/04/2025 14:21

please don’t pretend you care about trans men. The current situation affects them just as badly, although they are not your primary target re spaces. Healthcare is a different matter of course.

LOTS of people pretending to care about Transmen right now aren't there?

andtheworldrollson · 20/04/2025 14:26

Transmen who manage to exist without being spotted as wowmn and without making men’s lives a misery - I suggest they carry on

transowmen tend to be more easily spotted somehow - anyone would like wowmn would have a reason for that

DucklingSwimmingInstructress · 20/04/2025 14:27

Tandora · 20/04/2025 12:12

These differences have been explained on any number of threads. I posted a long considered post about this yesterday and only one person cared to respond. You aren’t interested in hearing or understanding. There’s nothing that anyone can explain to someone who takes that attitude.

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Right back atcha.

You are a perfect example of the falseness of most the trans movement. Not interested in any dialogue except forcing your opinion on others; unwilling to recognise the difference between someone disagreeing with you and fascism; profound intellectual dishonesty and most of all, a desperate desire for attention and forcing people to your own will, no matter the consequences or costs to them as long as you get your own way.

There's no point talking to a brick wall whose only desire is to topple women and crush them into compliance.

Hoppinggreen · 20/04/2025 14:27

Tandora · 20/04/2025 14:25

It erases / denies their existence as a trans person. A society that organises itself around this belief (an transwoman is a man) and enforces it , is a society in which it is impossible for a trans person to live as a trans person.

Nobody on here has said Trans people can't/don't exist
Trans people can live as a Trans person, why is that now impossible?

andtheworldrollson · 20/04/2025 14:27

I repeat - I am waiting for an explanation of what a woman in OPa mind

DrPrunesqualer · 20/04/2025 14:27

ThisFluentBiscuit · 20/04/2025 14:25

The two beliefs go together for the terfs. They HATE transwomen with a passion. Read my previous post about the thread earlier this week.

Women aren’t terfs
Thats a trans slur!!!

So terfs , which don’t exist, hate transwomen. 🤣

EasternStandard · 20/04/2025 14:28

ThisFluentBiscuit · 20/04/2025 14:25

The two beliefs go together for the terfs. They HATE transwomen with a passion. Read my previous post about the thread earlier this week.

It’s not all about men. Women are happy to have single sex spaces, no feelings required.

Why don’t you ask the male sex class to be more accommodating?

aylis · 20/04/2025 14:28

Tandora · 20/04/2025 14:25

It erases / denies their existence as a trans person. A society that organises itself around this belief (an transwoman is a man) and enforces it , is a society in which it is impossible for a trans person to live as a trans person.

Now apply to women.

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