Neighbours go to bed 1am and up at 5am we are knackered , detached house.

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We can hear our neighbours running up and down the stairs , they shout in the house, they shout to each other from the house to the end of the garden.You can hear every word.We hear them in the bathroom , word for word.
The worst thing is that they get up early and shout at each other in the front garden and slam their car doors at least ten times because they are unorganized and spend ages packing the car / going back into the house and slamming their side gate.
Am I being unreasonable and a grumpy neighbour ?
I don't want to be woken up at 5 - 6 am every morning if I have been at work all week.
I am tearful and grumpy all the time.
If they come home at midnight I am asleep and I hear word for word what the are saying to each other, it's a conversation that could wait until they get inside.Of course slamming doors and telling each other who needs a wee or a poo or a cup of tea or a shower first.
I know exactly who and when needs a poo , needs to put on deodorant, what activities they are going to , what they are having for dinner etc etc , with the windows and doors shut. Three generations living there and three children.
Our house is detached .

The thing is, they could help it, if they acknowledged its a problem. Which they most often dont. I understand its a pattern of behaviour they got from their own upbringing which is always hard to break but it is workable.

Just shout in their direction to keep the noise down. Always works for me.

I was being a bit immature and making myself laugh this morning 🤦😆. You might be totally right.

I have a noisy situation and wonder if when it becomes an ongoing issue it then sets up hyperacusis.

I had neighbours before the current family who I did not hear. I feel some people are naturally loud in their voice, movements and it can be hard to deal with once you're hyped up to it.

Take the gate off your wall, that will solve one problem

I spent £5000 on sound proofing the walls in our semi detached. I could hear the old lady changing the channel on her TV. Literally the click of the button. Now I don't hear anything.

My advice is dependent on whether you and your neighbours own your respective properties. If you are both tenants, complain to your landlords and to the council. If your neighbours are tenants, complain to their landlord and the council. If you both own your own properties, sell. If you make any formal complaints about noise, you are obliged to disclose it and it could impact thd value of your house and your ability to sell it.

You have my every sympathy OP 🙏🏻💗
The neighbours sound as rough as dogs☹️

Was about to post the same thing. How is this helpful?

Are they Italians, by any chance?

This reminds me of a Pensione I stayed in Italy, where the family members would shout at each other and have conversations with each other when they were in separate rooms on separate floors. They all seemed to have such booming voices and very loud laughs. I remember the day after I arrived, having breakfast in their patio and taking my book so I could have a quiet read in the sun, only to have the mother lean out from one of the upstairs windows and yell across to the neighbour in the house next door, who opened her window, leant out and proceeded to have a shouty conversation for half an hour. They didn't seem to find this behaviour out of the ordinary (I have to say, I admire their lungs) so I guess it is cultural. Do you think your neighbours are aware of how noisy they are?

Same, when I visited Mumbai and streets were unbearably noisy with drivers hooting their horns simultaneously, people yelling, construction noise, music blaring, etc. just one big continuous cacophony of din.

They shouldn’t be shouting when they are outside. That would annoy me any time of the day. It’s unnecessary and I’ve never had neighbours who have done that. I do have neighbours whose voices carry, even when they are talking normally. I doubt they know that and I’m not going to ask them to whisper.

But as you’ve already spoken to them about this, I doubt it will change. I think you are going to have to move. If you do it might be a good idea to visit a property at different times of the day and at the weekend to gauge how much sound travels.

I now have the new addition of a neighbour's puppy. Gorgeous but it has the radio left on when they're out and I now have ZERO respite from them because when they're out I have the radio and the dog intermittently whining.

I really hate people sometimes.

Put a note through the door to ask to turn the radio down?

I have an inconsiderate foghorn neighbour , it can really get you down when it's relentless. I think focus on the early mornings and late at nights, that's when they're being unreasonable and should be more aware and conciously keep their voices down. I think reducing that and you being able sleep will help a lot, everything is worse when you're exhausted.

My neighbour's don't even try to teach their dogs to not bark.

When knows whether PPs neighbours will be like yours or ours. Sorry to hear you've had such a bad experience.

I think you have to speak with them - do they know you can hear every word? That seems intolerable!

However, some other steps to take: (1) use Beary Quiet ear plugs (2) shut the window (3) black blind to help you keep the light out for less disturbance generally (4) white/brown noise on a speak (I use rain sounds via a google speaker) (5) keep the doors of your house shut to deaden sound so their noise doesn't reverberate.

Yeah. Weird.

Are houses now made of cardboard?

I am surprised. I was in a semi detached until recently and never heard anything from either side except, obviously, in the garden or if there were building or decorating works going on.

All I can think is you must be very close. My son has a detached house, on one side there is less than a foot between him and the next house - and he doesn't hear anything, nor do they, except in back yard.

They do sound exceptionally noisy and probably don't realise you can hear their shouting. Try to mention it and they might tone it down a bit. It is difficult though.

Well, that's great for you, I'm genuinely pleased for you.

However, either the building regulations aren't sufficient, or some of these development companies aren't meeting the regulations, I don't know. I'm not an inspector.

But your implication that I am a liar is unpleasant. The first friends you build was built by Bellway around five years ago. I have been there often enough to have heard myself frequently.

The other friends house was built by Taylor somebody that I can't be bothered up to look up, but feel free, hers was built12-15 years ago, but still feels and looks like a new build, the whole estate. I have actually lived in that house with them and I am telling you what my live experience is.

Believe me or not, I don't really care.

I'm genuinely pleased for anyone where this is the situation, it's how it should be. But I'm getting frustrated with people who don't seem to understand that not all houses are like this., not all developers are as good maybe??

But calling people liars because it's not their experience it's getting very frustrating

my own place was built late 50s, early 60's. I am end of Terrace. I can't hear too much from my neighbours. (when the doors and windows are closed, and I figure if they're open that's my doing) but I can hear any cooking type banging from them when I'm in my kitchen or any DIY they do. But I don't mind it's all fine. I can hear any time he goes for a wee because he's a large tall man that pees like a racehorse, but again that doesn't actually bother me. They are both a bit older than me and his hearing in particular, is declining so he tends to have the TV on and shout along to it (sports and the news) and as I say, he's a big bloke and he's loud. Sometimes I can hear him, but it doesn't bother me either. (I'm friendly with them which I suppose helps.) but I'm often glad it's her that's married to him and not me. He's a nice bloke but the decibels would drive me nuts!!

The noises that can carry can be really random and not necessarily the loudest ones,

Because most of us will have lived in flats, terraced, semis and detached and know the noise from a detached house is minimal unless they are having garden parties, otherwise it just is not feasible that people running up and down stairs in a detached house can possibly be a problem.

Yes car doors slamming at 5am will be a issue but conversations in detached houses are just not that audible even with windows open. Which points to oversensitive hearing being a contributory factor.

Some people are hard of hearing and don't hear noisy neighbours.

You have my empathies - it must be bad if it’s still audible despite detached properties. Currently in a similar and I can only deduce that some people really are loud and don’t care. I also think once tuned in it’s hard to un-tune.

We have had 5 sets of neighbours - three who started families and never a noise issue. The last two neighbours have been tenants (house sold to investor).

The second tenant is very noisy and a professed night owl - a security round is done every evening between 11pm and midnight slamming doors, adult daughter ‘seal bark’ coughs when horizontal so that’s my new alarm clock! Despite being in darkness she knocked our front door at 11pm once to ask for a parcel I’d taken in. And there are kids looked after there daily / weekends - a range of ages but all of them loud. There’s that many not sure if it’s an unofficial ‘crèche’ or not!

Advice is a natural route to seek but it’s easy to say this, that and the other - it’s just words. I tried the letting agent as the hedge wasn’t maintained and was blocking the path - they messaged the landlord, he messaged the first tenant and she threatened to make my life a misery for the rest of her tenancy. The second renter who besides being noisy also keeps parking over the path that leads to my front door. Her visitors have blocked our cars in / parked in our spaces. I advised her we had an appliance being delivered so needed clear sack truck access to our frontage - it culminated in a ‘discussion’ when she got nasty. She told me she pays twice as much to rent this as the home she previously owned and that home had a massive drive and was rural with electric gates.

Life is short I just want to exist without all this so I am now cordial if we pass but the bridge has been burned to the ground! I put the tele or Alexa on to drown out their noise. I can’t afford to move.

Neighbours next door attract teenage riff raff. All vaping.

I'm going to end up texting again. Which I just don't want to do. There are situations where you say something,then say it again, but it isn't heard. I think this is that situation.