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Husband on the war path again. Wants me to pay but I have no money

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ByZanyLion · 17/04/2025 17:12

A close friends daughter was visiting my house for a play date with my daughter. The two girls are in the same class and a very good friends.

During the play date the girl scribbled on the wall and a few other places with a permanent marker. I only found out about this after she had gone home. The girls are both 9 and this has never happened before. DH has lost his ; he wants to confront the mother. I told him that I’ll deal with it but he isn’t happy. He doesn’t want her in our house again, nor her mother.

She scribbled on two things of his, which is what he is mostly angry about. I told him, I’ll replace the items, because my friend won’t have the money, as she is going through a fair tough situation herself, and I don’t want to add to her burden. DH isn’t sympathetic to her plight. He has basically said that either she needs to pay or I need to pay using my own money, and not our family money. However, I don’t work and don’t have another source of income.

I am slightly taken aback by his insistence I need to use my own money. FYI Its only £60 to replace the items.

OP posts:
JustSawJohnny · 17/04/2025 17:51

The kid is NINE and still scribbling on walls and items with markers?!! That is highly unusual, IMO. If she were 3 or 4 then that's understandable but she's old enough to know better. It's really disrespectful and your DH is 100% in his rights to be very pissed off and disappointed in you for wanting to smooth it over.

I really think you have to speak to your friend about it and make it clear that it cannot happen again. Your home and DH are the priority here - not your friend and her DD.

I agree that he shouldn't be paying to replace items that were ruined, too.

Definitely give the recommended marker removal tips a go, OP.

m00rfarm · 17/04/2025 17:51

Cosycover · 17/04/2025 17:17

Well he sounds like a total dick. Honestly leave him. How fucking patronising telling you to use your own money when he knows you have no income. Lovely way to make his wife feel like total shit and exert his financial control. Fuck that honestly. You can get his money in the divorce. Take half his pension too. Dick.

Gosh - that is a bit strong. The point he was making was that, if it is paid from family money, then it is not the same as the other parent paying for it. It comes from funds that he has paid in! Can't you understand how that would be more than a little irritating?

Highlighta · 17/04/2025 17:51

This is why gentle parenting does not work.
A 9 year acting out with no consequences.

The fact you don't have any income is a totally different issue OP. This is something you need to look into changing.

Sherararara · 17/04/2025 17:51

ByZanyLion · 17/04/2025 17:31

It was across several places in the house, walls, radiators, clothes. He is on the war path because last time she was here, she told my daughter that she wasn’t her friend and my daughter burst into tears. I’ve put this down to kids being kids but he thinks she is a nasty bully, showing her true colours. He basically dislikes her.

Sounds like he might have a valid point. And that you might be too soft and too forgiving.

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 17/04/2025 17:51

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 17/04/2025 17:33

You’re being incredibly irresponsible.

Sure go ahead and laugh, you won’t be laughing on your way to A&E.

amiadoormat · 17/04/2025 17:52

I’d be pissed too if I was out at work all day with a wife who didn’t work and a 9 year old had vandalised my home. She’s 9 not 3 - she should absolutely know better and TBH so should you and you should be dealing with it - it happened on your watch

NikNakPaddyWack · 17/04/2025 17:52

The best solvent to clean off permanent marker is isopropyl alcohol / rubbing alcohol. You can get it from Amazon or from some pharmacies. I would try that first. If it doesn't work, let the other mum know what has happened and give her the opportunity to offer to put it right. If that fails, tell him you've done all you can as you have no money. Longer term, recognise that he is financially abusing you, get your ducks in a row, get yourself financially independent and ditch him. He won't improve as he gets older! In fact he'll likely get worse.

slapmyarseandcallmemary · 17/04/2025 17:52

Wd40 works

outerspacepotato · 17/04/2025 17:53

Your husband is correct in wanting to ask the other mom to pay. Are you reluctant to ask her because your child did some of the damage too?

He's not a dick for not wanting family money to replace it either. The kids weren't being properly supervised if multiple items were damaged. I also agree with not letting other kid come over again. You've got bullying and vandalism.

The big problem is, you have no job and it sounds like you get no spending money of your own. You are financially dependent to a very high degree on him.

Maybe it's time to look at getting a job or training for your own career. Your child is 9.

Don't use this on the walls or radiator but hairspray can remove a multitude of sins.

Blackdow · 17/04/2025 17:53

So she isnt his? Why arent you working then? She is 9. Not a toddler. You should be working to support your kid.

Did your daughter also draw on his things or just the friend? Nine year olds know better. Tell the mother what her kid did, have proper punishment for your kid and find a way to replace what has been ruined. Maybe get a job.

Tomatotater · 17/04/2025 17:53

I would be well pissed off if a 9 year old ( who behaved poorly last time she was round) caused £60 worth of damage to my stuff. Then as the only earner, my SAH DP said 'it's only £60'!
Have you tried going over it with the original pen?

JustSawJohnny · 17/04/2025 17:54

ByZanyLion · 17/04/2025 17:31

It was across several places in the house, walls, radiators, clothes. He is on the war path because last time she was here, she told my daughter that she wasn’t her friend and my daughter burst into tears. I’ve put this down to kids being kids but he thinks she is a nasty bully, showing her true colours. He basically dislikes her.

That is BAD, OP!

Nobody in their right mind would put up with that from a 9 year old visitor to their home.

If I were your DH I'd be raging and no way would that child enter my home again.

Motherofalittledragon · 17/04/2025 17:54

The girl is old enough to know better, well someone needs to pay and it should be the girls mother.
I agree with your dh I wouldn’t allow her back in the house either.

Mrsbloggz · 17/04/2025 17:54

get a permanent marker & scribble 'bastard' on his face while he's asleep

m00rfarm · 17/04/2025 17:55

Redpeach · 17/04/2025 17:41

Sounds like the dh should share the money equally. Their his kids she's looking after whilst he goes to work

Clearly he does. What he does NOT want to do is use family money to pay for items damaged by the friend. It is all well and good the OP saying she will pay, but it is money that he has earned and she is clearly not valuing the contribution in the slightest!

Isittimeformynapyet · 17/04/2025 17:55

BuffetTheDietSlayer · 17/04/2025 17:18

Your husband sounds horrid. Wanting to ‘confront’ the mother? That’s so aggressive.

TBF that's probably the OPs words to describe the situation.

BCBird · 17/04/2025 17:56

A 9 year old should not be scribbling on walls. I can understand ur husband being annoyed. His response to u however, is unacceptable. I would be making moves to earn my own money. Pay a proportion into family pot each and keep some for yourselves

ByQuaintAzureWasp · 17/04/2025 17:56

When you iron his clothes, tell him it's £60!

Walker1178 · 17/04/2025 17:56

If it’s a surface that a whiteboard marker would wipe off of you could try colouring over the permanent marker with the whiteboard one and then just wipe them both away. Definitely worth a go on the radiators but doubt it would be any help on the walls or clothing.

I do kind of agree that if you’re offering to pay for replacements it should be your money and not from the family pot

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MadeForThis · 17/04/2025 17:57

The 9 year old knew that behaviour was wrong. Did she do it to get your dd in trouble? Is she jealous of her?

Hiding this behaviour from her mum won't help her in the long run. It needs to be addressed.

Let the mum decide if she offers payment.

Blackdow · 17/04/2025 17:57

NikNakPaddyWack · 17/04/2025 17:52

The best solvent to clean off permanent marker is isopropyl alcohol / rubbing alcohol. You can get it from Amazon or from some pharmacies. I would try that first. If it doesn't work, let the other mum know what has happened and give her the opportunity to offer to put it right. If that fails, tell him you've done all you can as you have no money. Longer term, recognise that he is financially abusing you, get your ducks in a row, get yourself financially independent and ditch him. He won't improve as he gets older! In fact he'll likely get worse.

She says “family money” not “his money” so I dont think he is financially abusing her. She has access to the family money, he is supporting her and her child. If money is “family money” then it sounds like she does have spending money. But it does all come from him and he doesnt want to replace the ruined items with his own money because he wants the mother of this other child to pay, especially because he already said he didnt think this girl should come over again as she is a bully. The OP ignored him, invited her over snd his things have been ruined and now he has to use his own money to replace them. I’d be pissed off too.

JustSawJohnny · 17/04/2025 17:57

Mrsbloggz · 17/04/2025 17:54

get a permanent marker & scribble 'bastard' on his face while he's asleep

Why is he a bastard? For wanting his wife to demand that things ruined by her friends child are replaced? For not allowing other people's kids to disrespect his home? For not wanting a child who behaves so poorly in his home?!

Absolute bollox.

faerietales · 17/04/2025 17:57

Mrsbloggz · 17/04/2025 17:54

get a permanent marker & scribble 'bastard' on his face while he's asleep

Yeah, what a wanker paying for OP to stay home with her 9yo child.

Highlighta · 17/04/2025 17:57

Mrsbloggz · 17/04/2025 17:54

get a permanent marker & scribble 'bastard' on his face while he's asleep

Some responses on this thread are really strange.