Trans people

[Mog65]

Firstly, I'm a trans ally

Everyone is up in arms about trans women. What seems to be forgotten these people are human beings. Where is humanity. You have probably been sharing toilets and coming into contact with trans women every day and have no idea. You only hear about the few bad ones. In a public toilet, you go into a cubical and pee. Its not like you're sat there in full public view with your knickers at your ankles.

What has been forgotten also, as many females are changing to. So trans men. So you're in hospital in a ward. The woman in the next bed, identifys as George, clit is now a penis fully working and you're in the next bed! Same person can wander around female only spaces as the law has changed. George can now only be searched by a female. By the way George a transgender man is a pervert! All hypothetical but nobody has brought this up.

Just a thought.

No they won’t get harassed. The way that butch women have never been harassed or asked to prove anything. I’ll tell you a secret: we can tell they’re really women.

I agree. I don’t want people being encouraged to multilate their bodies.

Oh no grammar fail...

You.

I think you need to reread my posts. Obviously thats worse than this thread - but that doesnt mean this thread isnt bad.

Something being 'not as bad' doesnt make it ok

"Trans women are men."
"That's dehumanising!"
"Since when are men not human??"

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If you are indeed in favour of people having their own personal choices, then yes, you'd have to welcome yesterday's ruling because that's exactly what it protects. Women and men each being able to create single sex or mixed sex spaces, so that everyone has a choice of two options rather than be forced into one option only, mixed sex spaces, or excluded altogether.

Do you object to yesterday's ruling?

What’s bad about this thread?

I notice you laugh reached to my post asking if I could identify as black, change my appearance to be darker and access black only spaces. What’s so funny? Why won’t you answer?

Tell that to Katie Dolatowski's victims.

But the the government and the law will not treat JandamiHash as* *being 21, and will insist that a state pension can only be taken at a particular age, and that a driving license must be renewed at 70 and then every 3 years.

All of this may be distressing or inconvenient for JandamiHash, but it's just policy made based on an objective classification - and it does affect you because pension payments have to balance need against public expenditure and rules on driving licenses protect you from dangerous drivers.

For the same reason that the strength of my attachment to my identity as a woman is entirely irrelevant in this whole discussion, whilst the strength of a man's desire for that same identity is put forward as a life or death situation.

We're not allowed to just want the identity, we have to prove that we need it. But there will always exist those for whom no proof will ever be enough.

we can tell they're really women

I don't believe people always can. I've seen some trans men who pass as regular men in my life, I wouldn't know they were "really women" in the toilets. What proof do they show that they legally should be there if asked? Or are they still allowed to use the male toilets?

Ultimately it doesnt affect me at all

Bingo!
The issue is that men pretending to be women and wanting to access single sex spaces and referring to us as ‘cis’ women DOES affect women!

Is it? You need to get out more. The most hateful thing I’ve read in a long time is about the massive rise in the number of teenage autistic girls identifying as trans and having their healthy breasts removed.

If you can sit up there on your moral high ground, berating women for stating biological facts and sit happily and smugly within an ideology that encourages butchery of that nature, then I have nothing for you.

It's this question that makes it very clear that even the TWAW crew know that TW are men.

No one would make such a fuss about women not having their every want indulged.

@HazelShark so you’d have no problem with a trans women with her gear getting changed naked in the women’s changing rooms in front of your daughter?

You have no problem that sexual assault survivors have been forced to have biological men carry out invasive tests and screening despite asking for a women?

So all you are saying then is that you reported two posts that were deleted?
I'll take your word for it.
Keep up the excellent work.

I can recall at least one thread on here where someone challenged a person using a toilet who appeared masculine but turned out to be female.

This with fucking knobs on

Are you seriously suggesting that there is some moral equivalence between trans women threatening to rape and kill women who say no to them, and the women who say no to them?

For shame, Hazel.

In practice people will probably still use whichever toilet they want and we will have to put up with it. But I don’t mind one hot trans men using the women’s toilets, it’s for them after all

For the third time....no 😂😂

Yes. Two posts which I thought were transphobic and which were deleted. I'm merely pointing out that if posters ask for the worst examples, they can't be quoted as they no longer exist.

That’s unfortunate but one perhaps-it-happened-perhaps it didn’t example pales in comparison to the very real stories and real risk men being in women’s spaces presents.

Far more than any decent person would ever suspect, but that's irrelevant. One is one too many.