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18 year old son driving me to depression

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YawnSoTired · 09/04/2025 13:46

He left school last summer. No joy finding a job. No friends, doesn't leave house. Doesnt think to do anything in house unless asked to. Can't find any courses he's interested in. Literally has no interest in doing anything. Has piled weight on. I have no idea what to do. He isn't depressed. What do I do kick him out?

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SonK · 09/04/2025 15:13

I agree with the others he may have depression, perhaps seek some help for this.

Also, when I was a teen and didn't know what career path to follow I did a lot of volunteering.

He can volunteer with charities such as Barnardo's, volunteer at youth clubs, TFL, a local farm - anything really as long as he is around people and away from screens.

This will help him figure it out; whatever it is he wants to do.

I also got a lot of paid jobs through volunteering as they always hire internally first.

I would also recommend teaching English abroad - he can do this as a volunteer or paid job.

I hope this helps a little x

Gogogo12345 · 09/04/2025 15:13

ramonaqueenbee · 09/04/2025 14:36

Maybe come back when you actually have some experience of what it's like supporting a young person to launch in this economy and this world we're living in. Honestly. You can expect all you like, doesn't mean it will be possible.

As someone who has had such experience ( youngest is 21) the PP has perfectly valid points.

Life skills should be taught from much earlier.

Starling7 · 09/04/2025 15:14

JaneBoulton · 09/04/2025 14:55

Can we stop excusing shitty, lazy behaviour with a blanket diagnosis of depression?
he's being a lazy teenager. He is far from a catch for prospect future girlfriends. No one wants a man who doesn't work, have friends, interests etc. he really needs to get his arse into gear and get a job and you need to make clear you won't fund him forever.

he may be depressed, there's loads of us depressed folk out here who still manage to work and function.

Gosh, you don't know this lad. No wonder there is such a high suicide rate amongst young men with people reacting with zero insight or empathy like this.

Terrribletwos · 09/04/2025 15:15

YawnSoTired · 09/04/2025 13:46

He left school last summer. No joy finding a job. No friends, doesn't leave house. Doesnt think to do anything in house unless asked to. Can't find any courses he's interested in. Literally has no interest in doing anything. Has piled weight on. I have no idea what to do. He isn't depressed. What do I do kick him out?

Absolutely do not kick him out!
He needs you for whatever reason. You need to work it out.

SlightlyJaded · 09/04/2025 15:16

It's also worth thinking outside the tech/gaming box OP. Your son is gaming because it's addictive/easy/low-effort/no-contact. A lot of lonely/depressed kids find themselves gaming in their rooms - not necessarily because this is their 'thing' but because it's a step up from doom-scrolling but completely un-confronting.

I think you should also encourage him to think outside of that path - what did he like doing as a kid? There is often great value in recalling the things that made you happy when you were younger and seeing if there is anything that draws on the kinds of hobbies you had before you were following the crowd. How about something like Camp America? He will get to travel/meet other people his age who don't know him or anything about him/ mentor younger kids and it looks great on a CV.

Or might he be interested in a military career? One of DS friends did the open day at Sandhurst recently and if you are bright, there are some fantastic opportunities that go way beyond being a soldier.

Good luck (and no, don't chuck him out!)

Skule · 09/04/2025 15:16

Sometimes it's hardest to start from a blank page. 'What do you want to do?' is such a big question. There could be lots of possible answers.

Instead, look at it the opposite way - what would you definitely NOT want to do. This can bring up a lot of things and you can then spot patterns in them.

Also, he could try taking a quick careers test like this and see what options it suggests. Again, try to spot the pattern in the results it suggests rather than getting fixated on particular job titles https://www.mynextmove.org/explore/ip

O*NET Interest Profiler at My Next Move

https://www.mynextmove.org/explore/ip

Jenkibuble · 09/04/2025 15:16

YawnSoTired · 09/04/2025 13:46

He left school last summer. No joy finding a job. No friends, doesn't leave house. Doesnt think to do anything in house unless asked to. Can't find any courses he's interested in. Literally has no interest in doing anything. Has piled weight on. I have no idea what to do. He isn't depressed. What do I do kick him out?

Yes, get him to the GP.

Agree, tough love is needed - encouragement but firmness too.

Unsure where you live but where I am there are LOADS of training courses free for those under 19 (unsure where the funding is from ) in security, construction etc.
Is an apprenticeship an option ?
A visit to the job centre would be a good option - he will be allocated a work coach and perhaps get CV help etc.
I think his age group is one that UC will soon be affected by with the changes coming up (I may be wrong !)

noidea69 · 09/04/2025 15:16

JaneBoulton · 09/04/2025 14:55

Can we stop excusing shitty, lazy behaviour with a blanket diagnosis of depression?
he's being a lazy teenager. He is far from a catch for prospect future girlfriends. No one wants a man who doesn't work, have friends, interests etc. he really needs to get his arse into gear and get a job and you need to make clear you won't fund him forever.

he may be depressed, there's loads of us depressed folk out here who still manage to work and function.

100% agree with this, he'll be heading down the Andrew Tate incel route in a couple of years and be blaming women for not finding him attractive.

FiveBarGate · 09/04/2025 15:18

YawnSoTired · 09/04/2025 14:18

To do what course?

How about starting with the end point rather than the course.

So where does he want to live? City, rural etc.
What type of environment does he see himself in? Outdoors, office, computer based etc.

Does he want something more vocational with a defined career path e.g. physiotherapy or for interest in a subject and decide on the next bit later.

I think many people don't really know and fall into things. But you have to take a first step.

Sometimes doing something we don't like is the best way to see what we don't want and then to narrow down options. But he has to do something. Too long like this and it is very hard to get out

Coatsoff42 · 09/04/2025 15:18

My aunt told my cousin if he couldn’t find a job in 6 months he would be doing teacher training (stable money, career, contributing to society etc) He's head of English now and really a great teacher. She supported him through teacher training and he met his wife at his first school.
Would an ultimatum work?

Itsnotallaboutyoulikeyouthink · 09/04/2025 15:19

I’m going to going to go against the grain here he’s not depressed this is just the youth of today. My son is 16 and I think although he wants to leave school he hasn’t got a hope in getting a job atm. So they think they can just sit around all day. I’ve told my son he will either get a job after gcse or he will be in college. There is no sitting here gaming whilst me and his sister are off out working and at school. Op turn the internet off, get him to a gym and help him get a job. Don’t give him any money or wash his clothes .!

AnxiousOCDMum · 09/04/2025 15:20

He sounds very much depressed. Why do you think he isn’t?

Dave59 · 09/04/2025 15:22

Just my thoughts
Sorry, Its a 2 way thing, if he does that he gets this and so on. That's the way life is for us all. It's just like training a puppy. Sorry but it's time for him to grow up.
It's amazing how quickly people respond when privileges just arn't there any more.
The alternative is that you just do everything for him for the rest of his/your life.
Having said all that I think before you do anything you should really make sure he isn't depressed.

DurinsBane · 09/04/2025 15:23

BarneyRonson · 09/04/2025 13:48

He is depressed.

This!

OopsyDaisie · 09/04/2025 15:23

It's not easy to get a job right now I think.... he must be feeling deflated and even a bit worthless if he applies to many and hasn't heard back. Talk to him, xan you help work on his CV, or suggest he gets outside help? What kid of jobs is he applying to, what skills can go on his CV that would make it attractive to employers?
If he went to state school, there's a great charity called The 93% Club, I think this could be a great help!
He might need some tough love (please don't kick him out), but not before some "actual" love and support.....

FiveBarGate · 09/04/2025 15:24

If he doesn't want uni, a lot of colleagues do an introduction to trades course. A bit of time on each so you can get a taste and see what appeals or where you have the best skillset.

But he needs to get a move on before he's too old for funded options.

IButtleSir · 09/04/2025 15:25

Immediately stop doing his washing or cooking for him. Also charge him rent, and give him some household chores which are his responsibility.

He seriously needs to grow up, and sadly, that won't happen unless you make him.

Gogogo12345 · 09/04/2025 15:27

BrieAndChilli · 09/04/2025 14:48

if he has 6k saved up could he use a little bit of it to go travelling? would get him out the house, away from electronics and open him up to whats out there in the world? might spark a bit of life into him
plenty of summer abroad jobs at things like acorn adventure, camp america etc. good option as they arrange all travel etc and there is a team altogether out there. We did acorn in Italy for a summer and it was so much fun.

Yeah my DS did English camp company ( Italy and Austria)a couple of years ago and loved it

Hwi · 09/04/2025 15:30

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 09/04/2025 15:03

Hope your son never ends up like this.

If he does, this is what I shall do, honestly. I certainly won't entertain - what is wrong with you, darling? Roof over your head, school paid for, extra-curriculars paid for, food on the table, a bed at night, you don't have to work, you don't have to do even a paper run, etc. etc. Depressed? Oh, let us wallow in it together and get some mental 'health' specialists involved, those psychiatrists won't pay for themselves, will they, and let us also help some big pharma along the way, let us medicate you up to your eyeballs, and shift the blame for your laziness and boredom on this 'depression'.

ViciousCurrentBun · 09/04/2025 15:30

Game development is one of the worse paid sectors in IT as so many people want to do it. I know a lot of programmers, best paid works in investment bank systems and the other in credit card security.

Any kind of job would do for now, it’s almost irrelevant what he wants to do it’s just mixing with people that’s important.

DurinsBane · 09/04/2025 15:30

People saying that he isn’t depressed just lazy. If he was still meeting friends etc but refusing to do a job etc then yes maybe, if just sitting in his house all day with no friends? Could very well be depression. Don’t forget kids that age went through lockdown at 13/14 years old. When they should be learning social skills. Not surprised there is a lot of anxiety that age group

Survivingnotthriving24 · 09/04/2025 15:31

Would he travel a bit with his savings? I know a few people who have went to Australia, did some farm work (very well paid) and travelled around. There's agencies that can help you organise visas, jobs, accommodation etc. Might bring him out of his shell a bit and offer some life experience before he settles into doing a degree or working life.

There's nothing worse than trying to integrate a new start who's answer is "nothing" or "played computer games" when you ask what their interests are/what they did, the whole disinterested attitude seems to seep into every aspect of their life in my experience.

BlossomOfOrange · 09/04/2025 15:32

Get him some work experience in a computer games company. Or somewhere else eg there’s a skills shortage in broadcast engineering. Likely you’d need to help him secure that work experience.

Marshbird · 09/04/2025 15:34

YawnSoTired · 09/04/2025 13:59

I don't give him money he has no need for any. He does have 6k inheritance. Yes I feed him, do his washing,

Right, time to get him to contribute
start with chores. He’s an adult. He does his win washing of clothes, sheets towels etc. and his own ironing. Do not do it for him. Do not even suggest he does it. Talk to him to say this is how often washing needs doing, re underwear, sheets etc . Then say he can figur3 it out in terms of washing labels, machine instructions. Give him a day of week he gets to use machine, washing line so it doesn’t interfere with your washing.
then he needs to cook in turn. Depedning on number of adults in house. If just 2 of you, then 3 nights a week. If 3 of you 2 nights a week. Write a menu out each week. Shop for it , then tell him what he’s making. And get a recipe. Sure, he’ll make errors if not used to cooking, but he will learn.
then he needs to clean. Cleaning bathroom once per week on given day. And kitchen after he has cooked each time , and cleaning kitchen floor at least one other time per week. Totally responsible for cleaning his bedroom..and he can take a turn at hallway/stars every other week.
then dustbins and recycling now gets to be his job.
as does sweeping your yard spaces. And if you’ve grass he’s now on grass mowing duty once per week till late autumn.
assign him tasks

givechim choice- he either does these. Proactively. Or he plans to leave home in 6 weeks and fend for himself. He can ask for help and guidance to begin with, but most things can be learnt on YouTube .

he also needs to sign on , or whatever term is nowadays. As much as anything he needs to start NI credits for future pension. ANY money he earns or gets as benefits (if he qualifies at all) , whilst living at home goes 50% to you, until he is covering what it costs fr his keep.

and while you’re at it, sit him down and go through your budget with him around what bills are and food, and other stuff you seem so willing to cover now with “no costs” to him. Say this is what he is contributing to, and expected to pay his fair share .

agian if he refuses to register as unemployed and not in training, then he has 6 weeks to find somewhere else to live. Any money he does contribute, ifvyou csn afford it, stick it in a saver and return to him at age 30 or when he ants to buy a house when he has established a life for himself and money to support himself. Don’t tell him that now.

make life difficult for him to sit on his arse and play games all day. If needed turn off the damn internet for certain hours during day. So he has to do something else.

I appreciate he may have depression. But we know that fresh air, walking (or more specifically moving on 2 legs) helps with depression. As does having something that has to be done that isn’t too stressful …so housework and exercise is name of game.

I’d also be saying he will not be hit with a lightbulb moment of knowing what he wants to do. And we can’t always choose. The priority is to earn some m9ney, or enter training and move forwards. Start modest. Jus5 something. If it isn’t the right thing, he moves somewhere else knowing he’s at least eliminated some aspects of work he doesn’t like, sitting on his backsid3 playing games is avoidance. It’s comfortable. He’s just hoping magic fairies will solve it. They won’t. He needs to face his fears by informing himself. Say you will support him whilst moving form job to job whilst he finds out more what aspects of work he likes, and gradually figures out what he does want to do. Agian set a clear expectation that he has 1 month of work in next 3 months . Agian if he won’t do this then say he needs to move out then, or seek mental health support through all these bloody marvellous new schemes government is supposedly setting upto prevent lads like him becoming a NEET . (🙄🤷‍♀️)

You have to push him. He’s getting away form doing anything right now. If this continues you’ll have a 30 year old waster sittin* in your house, or someone else’s house who thinks it’s optional to fend for themselves to survive as an adult. And he’ll loose valuable years when employers will look more favourably on periods of jumping or missing employment records. You aren’t helping him at all here in long run. Time for some tough love.

TeeBee · 09/04/2025 15:35

Let's face it, we'd all be depressed if we sat in our rooms doing nothing all day. I suspect he won't be depressed if he gets a job and a purpose to his days. Honestly, if it was my son, I'd help him pursue next steps. Tell him he needs to either get a job or pursue a career now he's an adult. Tell him he has a couple of months grace then you'll be charging him rent (whether he's working or not...so it will be making a chip into his inheritance if he's not earning). None of us get to opt of adulting. I suspect he just feels totally overwhelmed with the task facing him and he's burying his head in the sand. I'd be inclined to handhold him through those first steps.