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Am I greedy, or was my friend out of order?

218 replies

SummaLuvin · 06/04/2025 08:36

Went out to dinner last night with a group friends (8 of us in total some single some with partners) all lovely, great to have a catch up. One of them, Milly, is a bit difficult at times, but she is part of the group and can be thoughtful and great fun. When it came to ordering puds some of the group got one, some didn’t, DH and I decided to get the sharing plate with 3 mini desserts. For clarity we always split the bill based on what we ordered. When our dessert was put down between DH and me with 2 spoons, Milly (who was sat next to us) said to the waitress “can we have another spoon please”. One for her to also tuck into our dessert. I was a bit shocked as this wasn’t discussed. Then cue Milly, who couldn’t reach the plate saying “oooh banoffee is my favourite dessert, I really love it…” I of course made sure I ate that up so she didn’t get a look in, but let her have some of the strawberry cheesecake which I wasn’t fussed on. I generally see myself as quite laid back but felt this behaviour was pretty outrageous and not on, but given she was so brash about it I wondered if maybe I was uptight and greedy?

OP posts:
SedumRoof · 06/04/2025 13:25

TortolaParadise · 06/04/2025 12:55

Yes in adults! Not necessarily about ordering desert but yes. - crying to manipulate a situation / play the victim / illicit sympathy / appear vulnerable in a situation / I could go on (but that would need a new post). 🙄

Honestly, am struggling to imagine a situation among any of my friendship groups in which (assuming everyone involved knew the cryer wasn’t upset about something serious going on in her life) people wouldn’t say ‘You’re embarrassing yourself now, Una’, hand her a napkin and firmly go on talking about something else to give her a chance to cop on.

ConnieHeart · 06/04/2025 13:29

SnoopyPajamas · 06/04/2025 12:22

If this was Take A Break we'd be in for the twist ending, where it turns out dessert isn't all Milly helps herself to. The title would be something like "Love Rat Hubby Bonked My Best Friend!"

On the next page would be a crochet pattern and a grim story about someone's "Evil Dad" sexually abusing them. The sort of thing TAB thinks is perfect reading fodder to enjoy with a cup of tea and a biscuit, for some reason 🤔

Or something like "I forgave my best friend for stealing my man but no way was she getting her mouth near my banoffee'" 🤣

gillefc82 · 06/04/2025 13:32

ARainyNightInSoho · 06/04/2025 08:46

Ignorant = does not know something eg. I am ignorant about economics

It does not mean rude.

You could argue it demonstrated an ignorance of social norms, which would suggest you don’t try and help yourself to someone’s dessert?

HellDorado · 06/04/2025 13:44

ConnieHeart · 06/04/2025 13:29

Or something like "I forgave my best friend for stealing my man but no way was she getting her mouth near my banoffee'" 🤣

“Banoffee Bitch Bonked My Bloke!”?

SedumRoof · 06/04/2025 13:52

HellDorado · 06/04/2025 13:44

“Banoffee Bitch Bonked My Bloke!”?

DESSERT TRIO TURNED THREESOME

BANOFFEE BONK IN BLOKES’ TOILET

PERT MILLY, 32, POUTS ‘LUSCIOUS HUBBY WAS UP FOR SHARING!’

SapphireSeptember · 06/04/2025 14:27

Mudkipper · 06/04/2025 08:57

I don’t think you know what ‘ignorant’ means, ironically.

Rude. Using ignorant to mean rude is informal but perfectly valid, according to the Cambridge dictionary.

Streaaa · 06/04/2025 14:54

Well handled OP.
Milly is a CF and a PITA.
Crying?
Ffs, avoid.
Sit at the opposite end of the table in future from her.

JohnTheRevelator · 07/04/2025 18:00

She's a CF.

MarkWithaC · 07/04/2025 18:10

SummaLuvin · 06/04/2025 10:48

ok, so I get the general consensus is that I should have been direct and made a unambiguous comment that the pudding was for just DH and I. Fair point. And that if she got upset that's on her. But I also think it's very easy to say after the fact and when it isn't you and your friends, I wonder how many people would genuinely do it in the moment. My thing is that it's all well and good calling her out, but everyone around the table is impacted by a negative vibe and doesn't seem fair.

There is also a few comments suggesting that as a sharing pudding she might have misunderstood and thought we would share with her too, I don't think this is the case as she wasn't involved in the discussion to order. But because I can be known to share - I'm not a 'Joey doesn't share food' sort - perhaps there was ambiguity there?

I have found the ignorant definition debate fairly entertaining.

it's very easy to say after the fact and when it isn't you and your friends, I wonder how many people would genuinely do it in the moment.
None of my friends would behave in a way that meant I needed to say something like you should've said here.

Crudd99 · 07/04/2025 18:22

ArtyFartyHippopotamus · 06/04/2025 08:45

She was totally out of order. It’s Ok to share with a partner, but did you really want a third person putting the spoon in her mouth and then back in the desserts. I would have told her a flat “No”. Covid is still around as are other viruses. Sounds pretty unhygienic.

Not just unhygienic it's gross. I'd throw up if I had to eat something with some else's spit on it that wasn't my partners or childs( up to a certain age with child and non snotty).

Frillysweetpea · 07/04/2025 18:24

CF! Everyone knows a sharing plate is for 2 unless otherwise stated.

cakewench · 07/04/2025 18:25

"oooh xyz, that's my favourite!"

"Funnily enough, mine too! Hence why I ordered it! You should absolutely get one for yourself; it's lovely."

I realise you wouldn't but depending on the day and how desperate I was for xyz, I absolutely might. 😆

LostNFoundSV · 07/04/2025 18:42

Ignorant can also mean rude or disrespectful.

asrl78 · 07/04/2025 18:55

sharkanado · 06/04/2025 09:13

She was ignorant about the correct behaviour and of how OP might have felt about her muscling in on her dessert.

How do we know that? Perhaps she was fully aware but just didn't care.

Unaware of social etiquette = ignorant.
Aware of social etiquette but chose to breach it = rude.
People also often use the word ignorant when the appropriate word would be stupid.

It is worth noting that sometimes words which once had a narrow meaning have evolved into additional meanings with the evolution of language. For example, the word "decimate" historically meant to kill one in every ten soldiers as punishment, but now it is used to describe widespread destruction.

asrl78 · 07/04/2025 18:58

healthybychristmas · 06/04/2025 09:11

Have you read Alice in Wonderland? Words can mean what you want them to mean and in parts of England ignorant certainly means someone who is ignorant of manners.

No they really can't, otherwise logical/constructive discussions would be next to impossible. You cannot verbally work through anything in a group without some common logical ground rules and definitions. Logical fallacies are basically deliberate violations of these principles used as an attempt to win an argument.

asrl78 · 07/04/2025 19:01

SedumRoof · 06/04/2025 09:48

For heaven’s sake, OP. This, like about 60% of what’s on here, is a ‘Use your words’ situation. It’s not wildly unusual for big tables where not everyone is ordering dessert to share, and for the waiters to bring extra spoons to facilitate this. If you were only prepared to share with your DH and someone misunderstood, your choice was either to say so or to deal with the consequences. If a fellow adult burst into tears because you didn’t let her eat your banoffee, that’s on her.

It is normal that the group has discussed and agreed in advance that they are sharing desserts. It is not normal that an individual feels an entitlement to help themselves to someone elses dessert as though they are on a diet and kidding themself they are sticking to it by not ordering a dessert.

asrl78 · 07/04/2025 19:03

BTW, I am ignorant of the acronym CF, what does it mean?

MrBallensWife · 07/04/2025 19:25

Milly needs a slap...

Bowies · 07/04/2025 19:47

Why was DH there?

Ignorant the use has varied by region for at least several decades and it’s either rude ignorant or both to dispute it when both are valid.

Asking for a spoon was strange and CF. If neither of you wanted the strawberry cheesecake anyway I wouldn’t be too bothered on this occasion, at least you won’t be shocked if it happens again.

Did you split the bill evenly or did you pay for what you had? Even though you didn’t react to the spoon request you had time to make a point to split the dessert 3 ways if it was the latter.

Moonlightdust · 07/04/2025 19:55

I never understand these weirdos who eat from other people’s plates! I still feel second hand rage from the post about someone’s friend eating her burger that she couldn’t finish but her DP was going to have it. Who eats their friend’s half eaten food? Gross.

Rainbowpug · 07/04/2025 20:10

Next time make sure your not sat anywhere near her

LalaPaloosa2024 · 07/04/2025 20:13

She’s rude. I had a couple of women do this to me. (One was my friend and the other was her side kick.) I ordered a small carafe of wine after they said they were not drinking and didn’t want a bottle. I felt like it. So ordered the small carafe as I didn’t like any of the wines by the glass. When the carafe came they helped themselves. I was baffled.

LalaPaloosa2024 · 07/04/2025 20:18

Mudkipper · 06/04/2025 08:59

Why use the word incorrectly then?

Why are you trolling like this?!

2025willbemytime · 07/04/2025 20:19

Another person who pretends to be sensitive so their unacceptable behaviour isn't challenged.

BeavisMcTavish · 07/04/2025 20:30

Haven’t read any updates beyond page one so I could be against the grain.

me - couldn’t really imagine our friend group in a world measuring out the bill and the degree I was prepared to share with them and only if u initiated. You win some you lose some.

perhaps she’s the cheeky one tonight, if it cost you what - £2 between a couple?

let us know if she habitually takes the piss and orders bottles of wine she doesn’t pay for, but off the op and that alone - tight as fook.