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My mum’s in an abusive relationship - with her own son

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hiddensuffering · 31/03/2025 19:58

Would you tolerate this from your adult son?

For years I’ve watched my mum live in an emotionally, verbally, physically, and financially abusive relationship with my 18-year-old brother.

He follows Andrew Tate’s misogynistic “red pill” incel ideology and believes women exist to serve men. My mum hides the abuse and makes excuses for him, but it’s getting worse. He’s been physically abusive—pushing, punching her, throwing objects at me when I was pregnant, and kicking holes in doors. His behavior keeps escalating.

He controls every aspect of her life and treats her like a servant. She has to cook expensive meals (which are never good enough and often have to be redone), run his baths (and re-run them when the water gets cold because he hasn’t gotten in yet), and constantly take him on shopping trips. She has to go upstairs to turn off his light even when he’s sitting right next to it. If she makes noise while he’s on the phone, she’s not allowed upstairs. Once, he smashed a plate of curry against the wall because it wasn’t “good enough.”

She has no social life because she has to cater to him 24/7. He doesn’t let her leave the house without permission, and if she does, he bombards her with calls, texts, and thumps on the walls if she doesn’t answer. She has to tell him exactly where she is, and he demands she come home when he says so. If she doesn’t comply, he punishes her—like when he trashed the house while she was in the hospital with sepsis.

He financially abuses her. He uses her bank card to buy himself luxury clothes, takeaways, and other expensive items, forcing her to spend £200 on Ozempic and over £1000 on a caravan holiday for him. She’s in debt, and he keeps getting her card blocked. Every week, she drives miles to buy designer goods for him, only for him to send her back to return them if he changes his mind.

When they go shopping, he sits in the café while she runs around getting everything on his list. If she gets something wrong, he sends her back multiple times. Once she’s finally done, she has to wait an hour for him to finish texting his online friends before he lets her pay and go home.

Her work life is suffering because of him. She’s late every day because she has to wait until he’s ready to be dropped at college—if she doesn’t, he refuses to go. She has to leave work at lunchtime to pick him up. Sometimes, he demands she come home just to fix the WiFi. When she works from home, he still controls her. She has to cook for him, bring him food, and go up to his room whenever he demands, even if she’s in meetings. She dreads being at home.

She gets no rest. He wakes her up in the middle of the night to cook for him or just to demand her attention, even though she has to work in the morning. He makes her drive him to the gym in the middle of the night, wait in the car for hours, then come home and cook his meals.

Last year, on holiday with us, she had to drive back home every night to cook for him and take him to the gym. In the end, he forced her to pay for a separate hotel room so he could come too. She had to stay with him and do whatever he said, only leaving to see us when he allowed it.

She’s exhausted, but she won’t stand up to him. She’s scared of him because he’s 6’4, physically intimidating, and the abuse gets worse when she tries to set boundaries. She jumps every time her phone rings because she knows it’s him, demanding something. She says there’s nothing she can do and believes she’ll have to work forever just to support him. She has health issues, and this is only making them worse.

AIBU to feel so angry and sad that I can’t seem to help her in any way. I want to show her responses from people who can see how abusive and unacceptable this is. What would you advise her to do?

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PotteringAlonggotkickedoutandhadtoreregister · 31/03/2025 20:00

Call the police.
kick him out.
change the locks.
call the police again for the inevitable fall out.
let him take the consequences.

hiddensuffering · 31/03/2025 20:02

PotteringAlonggotkickedoutandhadtoreregister · 31/03/2025 20:00

Call the police.
kick him out.
change the locks.
call the police again for the inevitable fall out.
let him take the consequences.

She won’t kick him out. Feels sorry for him and won’t let him fail😞

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Miloarmadillo2 · 31/03/2025 20:02

Wow that sounds horrendous. What support does your mum have to help her stand up to him? Would she report him to the police? There is no obligation to support him any more, he’s an adult and an abusive one at that. I’d be looking at how she can safely kick him out in the cold.

savethatkitty · 31/03/2025 20:03

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MrsSchrute · 31/03/2025 20:05

Can she come and stay with you?
Could you call the police?

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Namechange285 · 31/03/2025 20:06

What an awful situation for your Mum. I’d advise her to start collecting evidence of his abuse - messages he’s sent, times/dates/events that have happened. And then as pp has said, call the police and kick him out. Perhaps she could also contact a domestic abuse charity for some advice/help in planning next steps before taking any action. It sounds like a horrible and very scary situation for your Mum and she will need support to safely exit this abusive situation.

PiastriThePastry · 31/03/2025 20:06

You must know that there isn’t a single person who would read all that, get to the end and go ‘yeah, you know what, I’d accept that!’…
You detail appalling abuse. If I were you, I’d be contacting the police, and would’ve done long ago, at the very least the first time he was violent towards me anyway. Clearly your mum isn’t going to protect herself.

hiddensuffering · 31/03/2025 20:06

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Unfortunately it very much is a reality for my mum. She was abused by my father so I think has just fallen into the same pattern of being a helpless victim. She has health issues which make it harder for her to find the courage to do what she knows is right

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RedHelenB · 31/03/2025 20:06

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Exactly. How did it get to they stage in the first place. He's 18, she can kick him out.

Laundereddelrey · 31/03/2025 20:06

She needs some external voices to help her see what is going on. These dynamics are notoriously difficult for victims to unpick. They see what they want to see rather than reality. It must be horrendous for you watching in from outside. In dysfunctional relationships inevitably there is endless empathy on one side and zero accountability on the other. That is the defining dynamic. It is very difficult to shift that dynamic.

rosyvalentine · 31/03/2025 20:08

This is crazy. I think your mum needs to get some therapy/counselling to enable her to set some boundaries with your brother.

hiddensuffering · 31/03/2025 20:08

PiastriThePastry · 31/03/2025 20:06

You must know that there isn’t a single person who would read all that, get to the end and go ‘yeah, you know what, I’d accept that!’…
You detail appalling abuse. If I were you, I’d be contacting the police, and would’ve done long ago, at the very least the first time he was violent towards me anyway. Clearly your mum isn’t going to protect herself.

I know no one would? I said I was going to show her the responses so she can see exactly how horrific this is.

I’ve contacted the police on many occasions. As he was under 18, nothing was done and my mum refused to press charges or kick him out. So please don’t assume I haven’t tried. I had to leave for my own safety.

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Coka · 31/03/2025 20:08

hiddensuffering · 31/03/2025 20:02

She won’t kick him out. Feels sorry for him and won’t let him fail😞

She is letting him fail in a major way. Being an abusive a***e is way worse than being a college drop out or being homeless. The only way up for this man is to come crashing down to rock bottom hard and i hope she can find the strength to allow that to happen

wordywitch · 31/03/2025 20:09

How old is he as you said he is at college? He sounds absolutely vile and dangerous regardless of how old he is and I have no idea why your mother is allowing this to continue, though I do have empathy for how difficult it must be for her.

By enabling his behaviour she is creating a dangerous situation for not only herself but for all the other women he comes into contact with.

hiddensuffering · 31/03/2025 20:09

RedHelenB · 31/03/2025 20:06

Exactly. How did it get to they stage in the first place. He's 18, she can kick him out.

His behaviour was escalating for years. He stopped going to school, got more isolated and my mum just kept hoping one day it would get better.

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PotteringAlonggotkickedoutandhadtoreregister · 31/03/2025 20:00

Call the police.
kick him out.
change the locks.
call the police again for the inevitable fall out.
let him take the consequences.

OP can't do any of that, only her Mum can and that's not likely
Unfortunately OP your Mum is the only one who can change any of this and like many women in abusive relationships she cant do it (yet?)
All you can do is make sure she knows she has somewhere to stay if she needs it.

Apricotfuzz · 31/03/2025 20:10

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Nor can I.

Wishyouwerehere50 · 31/03/2025 20:11

hiddensuffering · 31/03/2025 20:06

Unfortunately it very much is a reality for my mum. She was abused by my father so I think has just fallen into the same pattern of being a helpless victim. She has health issues which make it harder for her to find the courage to do what she knows is right

OP, if this genuine apologies. I'll reply as if it is.

He has some undiagnosed condition that's clear. Has he ever been assessed for Autism or ADHD. I'm not saying this equals abusive behaviour.

Behaviour that's personality disordered seems to be linked in some cases. So a sociopathic state for example. Where there is zero capacity to care or empathise.

Your mum enables this yet I understand she will know he's different in some way so is over compensating.

All she can do is kick him out and advise him how to access supported housing. She can write a letter to the Council confirming this.

But she won't ever do this really will she.

He isn't going to change at all if my above suspicions are right.

You can only advise her ref kicking him out and changing the locks.

FortyElephants · 31/03/2025 20:11

She's failed to parent him properly, or at all it seems. I realise it's hard having experienced DV but honestly you can't make her put boundaries in if she doesn't want to. She's enabled him to grow up like this and she accepts it. Has she even asked for your help?

wrongthinker · 31/03/2025 20:11

Police. Get him out. Change the locks.

He'll end up killing her.

hiddensuffering · 31/03/2025 20:12

Miloarmadillo2 · 31/03/2025 20:02

Wow that sounds horrendous. What support does your mum have to help her stand up to him? Would she report him to the police? There is no obligation to support him any more, he’s an adult and an abusive one at that. I’d be looking at how she can safely kick him out in the cold.

She has no support except me as she hides the abuse from everyone. Always makes excuses for him. I find it disgusting that she’s enabling him but she’s my mum and I feel so sorry and sad for her.

She wouldn’t kick him out as he has nowhere to go and unfortunately she’s too wrapped around his finger to do anything😢

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Maitri108 · 31/03/2025 20:12

They're both adults and she knows she can ask him to leave. If he's threatening her she can call the police.

She needs to contact a domestic abuse organisation and get advice. She can contact the National Domestic Abuse Helpline but I doubt she will.

Just keep yourself safe.

whathaveiforgotten · 31/03/2025 20:12

Do you feel able to contact the police again now that he is an adult and share everything in your first post? She’s at serious risk.

myusernamewastakenbyme · 31/03/2025 20:13

Wtf she is literally his slave...I would rather be dead than live like that.

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