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My mum’s in an abusive relationship - with her own son

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hiddensuffering · 31/03/2025 19:58

Would you tolerate this from your adult son?

For years I’ve watched my mum live in an emotionally, verbally, physically, and financially abusive relationship with my 18-year-old brother.

He follows Andrew Tate’s misogynistic “red pill” incel ideology and believes women exist to serve men. My mum hides the abuse and makes excuses for him, but it’s getting worse. He’s been physically abusive—pushing, punching her, throwing objects at me when I was pregnant, and kicking holes in doors. His behavior keeps escalating.

He controls every aspect of her life and treats her like a servant. She has to cook expensive meals (which are never good enough and often have to be redone), run his baths (and re-run them when the water gets cold because he hasn’t gotten in yet), and constantly take him on shopping trips. She has to go upstairs to turn off his light even when he’s sitting right next to it. If she makes noise while he’s on the phone, she’s not allowed upstairs. Once, he smashed a plate of curry against the wall because it wasn’t “good enough.”

She has no social life because she has to cater to him 24/7. He doesn’t let her leave the house without permission, and if she does, he bombards her with calls, texts, and thumps on the walls if she doesn’t answer. She has to tell him exactly where she is, and he demands she come home when he says so. If she doesn’t comply, he punishes her—like when he trashed the house while she was in the hospital with sepsis.

He financially abuses her. He uses her bank card to buy himself luxury clothes, takeaways, and other expensive items, forcing her to spend £200 on Ozempic and over £1000 on a caravan holiday for him. She’s in debt, and he keeps getting her card blocked. Every week, she drives miles to buy designer goods for him, only for him to send her back to return them if he changes his mind.

When they go shopping, he sits in the café while she runs around getting everything on his list. If she gets something wrong, he sends her back multiple times. Once she’s finally done, she has to wait an hour for him to finish texting his online friends before he lets her pay and go home.

Her work life is suffering because of him. She’s late every day because she has to wait until he’s ready to be dropped at college—if she doesn’t, he refuses to go. She has to leave work at lunchtime to pick him up. Sometimes, he demands she come home just to fix the WiFi. When she works from home, he still controls her. She has to cook for him, bring him food, and go up to his room whenever he demands, even if she’s in meetings. She dreads being at home.

She gets no rest. He wakes her up in the middle of the night to cook for him or just to demand her attention, even though she has to work in the morning. He makes her drive him to the gym in the middle of the night, wait in the car for hours, then come home and cook his meals.

Last year, on holiday with us, she had to drive back home every night to cook for him and take him to the gym. In the end, he forced her to pay for a separate hotel room so he could come too. She had to stay with him and do whatever he said, only leaving to see us when he allowed it.

She’s exhausted, but she won’t stand up to him. She’s scared of him because he’s 6’4, physically intimidating, and the abuse gets worse when she tries to set boundaries. She jumps every time her phone rings because she knows it’s him, demanding something. She says there’s nothing she can do and believes she’ll have to work forever just to support him. She has health issues, and this is only making them worse.

AIBU to feel so angry and sad that I can’t seem to help her in any way. I want to show her responses from people who can see how abusive and unacceptable this is. What would you advise her to do?

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wrongthinker · 31/03/2025 20:14

hiddensuffering · 31/03/2025 20:12

She has no support except me as she hides the abuse from everyone. Always makes excuses for him. I find it disgusting that she’s enabling him but she’s my mum and I feel so sorry and sad for her.

She wouldn’t kick him out as he has nowhere to go and unfortunately she’s too wrapped around his finger to do anything😢

Then the only thing you can do is keep reporting him to the police.

The risk with that is that she'll cut you out too and then she'll have no one.

It sounds like an utterly horrendous situation and I hope there's some way out of it for your mum.

Hoppinggreen · 31/03/2025 20:14

wrongthinker · 31/03/2025 20:11

Police. Get him out. Change the locks.

He'll end up killing her.

Again, OP cannot do that

hiddensuffering · 31/03/2025 20:15

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This is genuinely my mum’s life. Not sure why I’d make this up.

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PiastriThePastry · 31/03/2025 20:15

hiddensuffering · 31/03/2025 20:08

I know no one would? I said I was going to show her the responses so she can see exactly how horrific this is.

I’ve contacted the police on many occasions. As he was under 18, nothing was done and my mum refused to press charges or kick him out. So please don’t assume I haven’t tried. I had to leave for my own safety.

You lead your original post with asking ‘would you tolerate this from your adult son?’ but that must have been rhetorical, I took it at face value. If you’ve already contacted the police, and your mother refuses to help herself, I’m very sorry to say there’s little more you can do. It must be incredibly upsetting.

hiddensuffering · 31/03/2025 20:15

wrongthinker · 31/03/2025 20:14

Then the only thing you can do is keep reporting him to the police.

The risk with that is that she'll cut you out too and then she'll have no one.

It sounds like an utterly horrendous situation and I hope there's some way out of it for your mum.

Yes that’s why I’ve just been keeping her close and trying to support her. I know if she cuts me off she’ll have no one really and that’s my fear

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Wishyouwerehere50 · 31/03/2025 20:16

hiddensuffering · 31/03/2025 20:12

She has no support except me as she hides the abuse from everyone. Always makes excuses for him. I find it disgusting that she’s enabling him but she’s my mum and I feel so sorry and sad for her.

She wouldn’t kick him out as he has nowhere to go and unfortunately she’s too wrapped around his finger to do anything😢

I'd tell adult social services tbh. I'd also call the Police for advice.

You can't do anything here. She can't break the biological drive to protect him no matter how much he abuses her.

He's clearly not your typical functioning male here. He'll never access an assessment in this current environment so it's futile anyway hoping there will be support for him directly. He does sound personality disordered and there's no working with that. It all rests in your mum telling him he's not welcome anymore. But she won't. Nothing will improve.

Coka · 31/03/2025 20:18

This must be heartbreaking for you, well done for getting yourself out. I think all that you can do is set the example and have your own boundries. Unfortunetly for your mum noone else can make her remove herself from the situation. She has to want to herself

orangetriangle · 31/03/2025 20:18

this has to be one of the most shocking things o have read i really hope it's not true.
I understand this is her son but allowing this to continue and not reporting this throwing him out etc she is enabling him and failing him and I feel with no one stopping this and sating this is wrong it will get worse and worse and he will never be able to be any kind of decent human being with a place in society
this is truly awful regardless as to whether he has something wrong with him that can be diagnosed or not
it is absolutely no life for anyone

Wishyouwerehere50 · 31/03/2025 20:21

hiddensuffering · 31/03/2025 20:15

This is genuinely my mum’s life. Not sure why I’d make this up.

Apologies OP.

You cannot do anything. You have the misfortune of being part of a dysfunctional family. Many people in this situation realise that they have little choice but to distance or have no contact.

Your mum is enabling all of it. I understand she's probably scared of him. I'd feel less afraid if he wasn't living with me.

If you tell him you know he's abusive or do anything, I suspect he will manipulate your mum or together they will push you out.

Seriously, fuck that. You can't save her if she won't save herself.

NewtonsCradle · 31/03/2025 20:22

Your mum needs to live separately from him asap but I imagine she would be more amenable to him leaving if he had a way to support himself. He sounds like he would benefit from being around some stable male role models. Given his size and gym membership could he get a job as a nightclub bouncer or apply to the police or army? (Obviously the military would give him somewhere to love).

hiddensuffering · 31/03/2025 20:24

Wishyouwerehere50 · 31/03/2025 20:11

OP, if this genuine apologies. I'll reply as if it is.

He has some undiagnosed condition that's clear. Has he ever been assessed for Autism or ADHD. I'm not saying this equals abusive behaviour.

Behaviour that's personality disordered seems to be linked in some cases. So a sociopathic state for example. Where there is zero capacity to care or empathise.

Your mum enables this yet I understand she will know he's different in some way so is over compensating.

All she can do is kick him out and advise him how to access supported housing. She can write a letter to the Council confirming this.

But she won't ever do this really will she.

He isn't going to change at all if my above suspicions are right.

You can only advise her ref kicking him out and changing the locks.

I was recently diagnosed with autism and ADHD so it’s possible. He refused all help and interventions in his teenage years so was never assessed.

My mum won’t do anything like that but now he’s 18, I’m hoping she’ll be more open to getting help now. She seems to be getting more fed up every day and confides in me more than before so I want to try one more time to get through to her.

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TY78910 · 31/03/2025 20:25

Wishyouwerehere50 · 31/03/2025 20:11

OP, if this genuine apologies. I'll reply as if it is.

He has some undiagnosed condition that's clear. Has he ever been assessed for Autism or ADHD. I'm not saying this equals abusive behaviour.

Behaviour that's personality disordered seems to be linked in some cases. So a sociopathic state for example. Where there is zero capacity to care or empathise.

Your mum enables this yet I understand she will know he's different in some way so is over compensating.

All she can do is kick him out and advise him how to access supported housing. She can write a letter to the Council confirming this.

But she won't ever do this really will she.

He isn't going to change at all if my above suspicions are right.

You can only advise her ref kicking him out and changing the locks.

OP said that the father was also abusive - this is learnt behaviour. Not everything needs to be a neurodiversity.

Victims of DV in childhood (direct or indirect) have a higher chance of conducting themselves in a similar manner.

OP - have you tried contacting social services to alert them to a vulnerable adult?

Deathinparadisefan · 31/03/2025 20:26

What an absolutely intolerable situation for your mum. Your local council or county council should have a Safeguarding Adults team. You can report a concern on there on behalf of your poor mum. How awful, just devastating.

cestlavielife · 31/03/2025 20:28

She can leave
Go to a refuge
Stay with you?
Who owns the house?
Is there a mortgage?

Createausername1970 · 31/03/2025 20:29

If she could see sense, then it's almost worth her just moving out and going to stay in a B&B. It would cost less than pandering to him.

Hazey19 · 31/03/2025 20:29

womens aid and the police. He sounds dangerous. Good luck x

ladyamy · 31/03/2025 20:30

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Jabtastic · 31/03/2025 20:30

He is undoubtedly dangerous. I hope you will alert the authorities?

VivaVivaa · 31/03/2025 20:30

Absolutely terrifying that anyone could think being a policeman would be a good profession for this man. More abusive, women hating scum bags is the last thing the police force needs.

OP I think you need to get in touch with social services as she is so vulnerable. I sadly don’t think they will do much, but you need to slowly yet surely build up a picture of how abusive and awful your brother is and the level of danger she is in. I also think you should speak to the police, again more to keep putting your concerns on record. Then, if/when it all comes to a head, there is reams of evidence of how awful he is. Nothing will be done until your mum wants it to though, you need to keep supporting her until she sees the light.

Is your dad his dad as well? I assume he isn’t around anymore?

Bobbybobbins · 31/03/2025 20:32

Child to parent abuse is more common than you might think and massively under-reported. I have two children with learning difficulties and know many parents who face physical and emotional abuse from their children every day. I can quite believe this is true and I’m sorry for the awful abuse of your mum.

It’s all very well to say ‘kick him out, call the police’ but it’s very difficult for a parent to do that.

Having said that, clearly your mum cannot continue like this. Is it worth you speaking to women’s aid or a similar charity for advice? Adult social care might be another option.

BadgersGalore · 31/03/2025 20:33

He sounds like Spoilt Bastard from Viz.

YipYapYop · 31/03/2025 20:33

This is domestic abuse and quite high risk by the sounds of it.

I would call your local Council domestic abuse service for advice as soon as possible.

They will be the best people to advise about safety planning and how to help someone in this situation.

Loubylie · 31/03/2025 20:34

The link above is on a useful website for parents abused by their children.

hiddensuffering · 31/03/2025 20:34

Bobbybobbins · 31/03/2025 20:32

Child to parent abuse is more common than you might think and massively under-reported. I have two children with learning difficulties and know many parents who face physical and emotional abuse from their children every day. I can quite believe this is true and I’m sorry for the awful abuse of your mum.

It’s all very well to say ‘kick him out, call the police’ but it’s very difficult for a parent to do that.

Having said that, clearly your mum cannot continue like this. Is it worth you speaking to women’s aid or a similar charity for advice? Adult social care might be another option.

Thank you. I’m going to contact both for advice.

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