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AIBU?

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For telling my friend she was ridiculous to bring a 7 year old for a spa day!

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Senuousnotsensuous · 15/03/2025 21:25

My friend Emily has a 7 year old daughter Milly who she brings every time we meet up either when it’s just the two of us or with a group of our other friends.

Emily insists Milly wants to come but it’s frustrating as we can never have a conversation without her giving her opinion or Milly takes over and Emily sits smiling proudly, she often comments on her daughter’s maturity and how she loves joining us.

We do occasionally get time when Milly is at school but any weekend meet ups are the same, Milly could stay with her dad at home but apparently gets very upset when she’s not invited so Emily gives in and lets her come. We have had a few occasions where we have met up in restaurants for a meal in the evenings and Milly has often made an appearance, the whole evening ends up revolving round her.

My other friends said they were fed up with this as well, we stopped inviting Emily as often but she noticed and was hurt.
I managed to get her to meet me one to one and asked if she was being persuaded by her husband to bring Milly and said I was concerned that she never seemed to get time to herself, she insisted that wasn’t the case and said she thought we loved seeing Milly.
I explained that no one else brought their kids along and wanted adult time and as much as we liked Milly it’s frustrating to get childcare for other kids for a childfree evening then Milly being allowed to come.
Its not fair on the other kids and changes the dynamic and means Emily has to leave early. We are sick of censoring the conversation and being unable to talk freely.
Emily agreed to stop bringing Milly along unless other kids were going to be present.

A few weeks ago we booked a spa day for today for 3 of us and Emily.
The package included a 25 minute massage treatment each and use of the facilities for 3 hours and afternoon tea with Prosecco.
I didn’t think not to ask Emily not to bring Milly as surely it’s common sense?!

Well the spa was booked for 10am and Emily brought Milly. We asked her how she possibly thought this would work and she said Milly wanted to use the pool and we could watch her when Emily had her massage.
Emily was told by staff she couldn’t being Milly into the spa and got very upset and complained that she’d paid for the day, her husband refused to pick her up saying he’d agreed to work overtime now, Milly started crying hysterically.

I had no sympathy and told Emily one of the reasons we booked a spa day was in the hope of actually spending time with her alone and we never considered she’d bring Milly. My other friends were equally as unsympathetic and said she had brought this on herself and it was her own fault Milly was upset and if lost the money.

Emily had to leave with Milly and looked absolutely devastated, she didn’t apologise though she just kept saying how ridiculous it was that the spa wouldn’t let Milly in or make any exceptions.

After she left we all agreed it was time to stop inviting Emily anywhere as she obviously wasn’t going to stop bringing Milly, we were throughly pissed off about the whole thing.

One friend has just sent me a message saying Emily has been crying down the phone for hours on her and thinks we were maybe a bit harsh and that Emily said she finds it hard to leave Milly because she gets so upset when she can’t come along. She thinks we should apologise for getting so frustrated with her today.

I think the whole situation is fucking bizarre and if Emily was a struggling single parent I could maybe understand it, I have had enough though and I’m not apologising, I have tried to chat about it but she’s not willing to listen.

AIBU for not being more understanding? It’s not just me, my other friends feel the same, even the friend who thinks we should apologise said she thinks it’s best we no longer invite Emily.
I don’t think Emily is ever going to take in what we are saying and she will keep bringing Milly because she can’t say no to her.

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crockofshite · 15/03/2025 21:27

Emily needs therapy.

WearyAuldWumman · 15/03/2025 21:27

I had a cousin who used to bring her teenage daughter to meetings that were organised for friends/adult relatives only.

For example: my husband organised a 50th birthday meal for me and invited my cousin and her husband. To his surprise, the teenage daughter also arrived. (The slightly older son stayed at home.)

It did change the dynamic of the evening.

TheMousePipes · 15/03/2025 21:27

That’s fucking mental. Who takes a 7 year old to a spa day? Your friend is an idiot.

northernballer · 15/03/2025 21:28

Of course you can't take a 7 year old to a spa and I find it even more strange she would want to. YANBU.

WhatFreshHellisThese · 15/03/2025 21:28

YANBU. If she doesn't want to be told she's ridiculous, then she shouldn't do ridiculous things. I can't imagine bringing my children to something like a spa. It's unfair, thoughtless and will ruin the dynamic

Secondguess · 15/03/2025 21:29

If these are real names, i.e. Emily called her daughter Milly (which is basically her own name) then you have a future ahead with the mum insisting that she and her daughters are "besties" and she will always be invited to everything. Always.

carly2803 · 15/03/2025 21:29

do not apologise!! emily is a fucking idiot! she also needs therapy

I had a friend like this once, but instead of kid, boyfriend everyfuckingwhere

i dropped her like a stone in the end, inappropriate and also changes the dynamics

Gonk123 · 15/03/2025 21:29

Her daughter will get used to it if she refuses to take her everytime. Silly!

Senuousnotsensuous · 15/03/2025 21:30

TheMousePipes · 15/03/2025 21:27

That’s fucking mental. Who takes a 7 year old to a spa day? Your friend is an idiot.

Yeah that’s pretty much what I thought. I’m sick of trying to be understanding, I’ve realised now it’s just selfish behaviour

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Theywerebrilliant · 15/03/2025 21:31

Well you've all told her what you think (I agree with you all) but she's not listening, she's a hopeless case tbh.

OnlyFoolsnMothers · 15/03/2025 21:31

She ridiculous, and tbh you’ve tried to state the obvious and she still doesn’t want to get it. I’d stop inviting her places

Tikeahulilly · 15/03/2025 21:31

Why would anyone think that other people who have arranged childcare would then want Milly around.... wtaf... bizarre

Emily needs to wobble her head

Nanny0gg · 15/03/2025 21:31

Senuousnotsensuous · 15/03/2025 21:30

Yeah that’s pretty much what I thought. I’m sick of trying to be understanding, I’ve realised now it’s just selfish behaviour

I think your friend is just incapable of using the word No.

Moonnstars · 15/03/2025 21:31

YANBU. She sounds bizarre. She said she cannot go out without Milly as she will be upset, so is Milly a spoilt child who Emily is afraid of? She is 7 years old and needs to be told to listen to what an adult says, if that is she needs to stay home with her dad then that is what she does regardless of sulking or crying til Emily gives in.

MumChp · 15/03/2025 21:32

I had given up years ago on Emily. It's bonkers.

I have children at home. I don’t want to spend a day out with friends or a spa day with Millie 7 yo. No thank you.

Senuousnotsensuous · 15/03/2025 21:32

Gonk123 · 15/03/2025 21:29

Her daughter will get used to it if she refuses to take her everytime. Silly!

That’s the main problem, instead of Emily explaining it’s an adult meet up and she has her own friends she starts trying to reason with her and apologises or blames it on us not wanting her there.

We don’t want her there!

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Ddakji · 15/03/2025 21:33

There’s something very odd going on there, but YANBU in the least.

PermanentTemporary · 15/03/2025 21:33

Well, if you otherwise do like her, invite her to stuff where the kids come too.

Do you actually like her though?

HeyItsPickleRick · 15/03/2025 21:33

Yeah, this is weird. You meet with your kids at the park, national trust properties or shitty soft plays not at a spa.

MumChp · 15/03/2025 21:33

Senuousnotsensuous · 15/03/2025 21:32

That’s the main problem, instead of Emily explaining it’s an adult meet up and she has her own friends she starts trying to reason with her and apologises or blames it on us not wanting her there.

We don’t want her there!

Don't invite her in future. I wouldn't. Game over.

bridgetreilly · 15/03/2025 21:34
  1. She should have checked whether Milly was invited by you and whether the spa would let her in. Not your fault she didn’t.
  2. Milly needs to learn that her mother has her own life too, and sometimes she isn’t invited. Just like when she plays with her friends, they don’t always want a mum joining in.
  3. In future, all invitations need to specify they are adults only. And if Emily doesn’t like it, that’s tough.
TomatoSandwiches · 15/03/2025 21:34

Emily needs to be an actual parent and teach Milly the word no.

I would not be apologising and I would tell her to lose my number, what a pain in the arse.

SwedishSayna · 15/03/2025 21:34

I think the whole situation is fucking bizarre

Damn right its bizarre!
Why does the mum think it's ok to bring a child to adult meet ups?
Why does a 7 year old want to hang out with adult women?
Why have you all let it carry on?
So bizarre!

lizzyBennet08 · 15/03/2025 21:34

She sounds a bit unhinged. Particularly after you telling her how you all feel.

Martymcfly24 · 15/03/2025 21:35

crockofshite · 15/03/2025 21:27

Emily needs therapy.

And Milly will too in a few years.

Bizarre parenting relationship.