I will eat a whole packet of biscuits, is that normal? Food nosie

[ByNimbleOrca]

If there are sweets or something in the fridge I really like, I will eat them all in one sitting.

Packs of six pack crisps don't last more than two days, I can't stop eating biscuits and even savory food I will pick at it.

Is this normal or does everyone have to control themselves?

Catza my DH hoovers all the nuts and cream cheese. Drives me mad!I have a few here and there. Think food is more avaliable now so more chance to snack.

It’s not normal from a human nutrition point of view, but it’s normal in American/ Western society in this day and age if that makes sense. Our culture normalises eating like that/ having these types of food in the house.

You are putting your health and body at risk of obesity and disease.

I’d suggest looking at really overhauling how you see food/ what your routine is like to trigger that type of eating. For example for me it was working too hard, being constantly stressed and replacing things that were good for the body and soul (time outside, socialising, sleep) with eating food that was slowly killing me.

Check out people like Giles Yeo of Cambridge. Google ‘obesogenic environment’.

I’m now very in tune with my body, eat almost exclusively nutritious foods and if someone offers me a soda or biscuit I rarely have any interest, apart from the odd small treat I really want.

You can care about your own diet as much as you like.

referring to other people negatively because they don’t eat the same way you do is “something else”- and has been seen widely on this thread.

also don’t forget that most people don’t need to reverse diabetes. Someone enjoying a pack of biscuits occasionally shouldn’t be made to feel that this is a “bad” act because other people have diabetes.

as always, the use of extremes prevail and the consideration of the average is forgotten.

Isn’t it just about the natural end of the opportunity? Like vaping
cigarettes “ended”- you finish one in 5 mins and it’s gone.

its an acknowledged problem with vaping that the natural “end” is much longer- until your vape runs out. You can vape all day with no natural end.

ive just looked at my pack of digestives and it’s 266g which is 16 biscuits. It’s not that big of a deal.

To use your own logic against you - equally you cannot diagnose me or any other poster with orthorexia anymore than I can diagnose anyone with binge eating disorder. Limiting your sugar intake and not eating biscuits or crisps daily isn’t orthorexia either.

Binge eating is also very prevalent in society and very under diagnosed. However, medical science invented an injectable drug to help.

Orthorexia is an ED very alike to OCD. Please do not throw this around everywhere to women who moderate their food, it’s offensive.

People who are actively losing weight and calorie counting will engage in checking labels to help guide themselves in making choices but this doesn’t equal orthorexia. People who moderate food aren’t always obsessive or unhappy about it. I love food, I like eating, I enjoy it, what’s not to like.

Wait. Are you arguing that in the UK it is unusual to live in a city, or work in an office, or drive a car? Lol.

For background I live semi rurally in one of the least polluted places in Britain and don't drive.

A previous poster made the point that overeating is unhealthy and should not be normalised. I pointed that many unhealthy behaviours on our society are normalised - they are widespread and draw little criticism. However overeating as an unhealthy, common phenomenon seems to attract personal criticism and moral judgement in a way other detrimental behaviours don't.

THAT was my point.

I’m not diagnosing anyone. There is clear orthorexic language on this post which im judging.

again- I don’t care about people checking labels or losing their own weight or reversing their own diabetes

I care about the rudeness, unkindness and judgments on this thread. Which should not be mistaken for helping or informing.

Wait. Are you arguing that in the UK it is unusual to live in a city, or work in an office, or drive a car? Lol.

How long shall I wait?

@AndhowcouldIeverrefuse

BTW moving house, changing careers or controlling the transport environment around you are not easy things. Also good luck with "compensating" for pollution or sedentary working.

Nothing is "easy" which is why we're where we are with health and obesity crises.

"Compensating for sedentary working" is actually the simplest of things to do...

Get a standing desk
Walk around the office more
Take the stairs instead of the lift
Park further away
Have a lunchtime walk
Exercise in the evenings or at least at the weekend

But even the bigger issues, you "chose" where to live, you "chose" where to work, etc - these things are changeable in the longer term and lots of people do move where they live and where they work over time. No, it may not be "easy", but living a life in later years with health issues won't be easy either.

I had a sedentary job and weight rose to 24 stone, barely able to move, just shuffling from home to car to work and back. I gave up the job and got a local one, massive pay cut, but I saved a fortune on commuting costs, gained 2 hours per day and started being more active. That then led to me giving it up and setting up my own business a few years later. Again, not easy, in fact, very hard, especially losing my wage and living on credit card debt for a year until it started making profits. But it meant I could work a mile from home in a rented office that I could walk to. When in the office, I can work at a standing desk. I can also have a walk around the village/canal every lunchtime. No, it wasn't easy to get there, it cost me massively financially, when I started up, I had to work stupidly long hours so missed a lot of our son's growing up. The risks are huge. But, now, I'm fitter, healthy, half my weight, better attitude/control of food, reversed T2 diabetes, and feel fitter and healthier now I'm 60 than I was as a teenager.

As I say, the big things aren't easy, but that doesn't mean you have to accept facing the rest of your life potentially unhealthy, and ultimately with a shortened and possibly disabled old age.

No, I'm not arguing that it's unusual. But I am arguing that different people have different normals.

And that's what the op was asking about in the first place. And then everyone is piling on having a go at people who are answering about their own normal.

@AndhowcouldIeverrefuse

I pointed that many unhealthy behaviours on our society are normalised - they are widespread and draw little criticism.

Smoking, vaping, drug taking, and excess alcohol all regularly draw plenty of criticism. Not sure why you don't think they do! There are posts all over MN about it.

I think this is significant. If you were deprived of food as a child, then this might explain eating what you can, when you can

Although I would expect that to be for food generally, not just unhealthy snacks

But nowadays you could have a weight loss injection.

the conversation about obesity / the obesity epidemic is rapidly becoming obsolete.

if you’re talking about exercise for general health, that’s different and can be obtained without the lifestyle factors you mention

Not read full thread but this is me. I don’t put on weight which means there’s no psychological barrier. I had a pretty emotionally fucked up childhood - not abuse but unhappy - and we didn’t have a lot of sweet treats. I don’t know whether those things are linked/relevant? id love to know the psychology of it.

I deal with my gluttony by not having things I like in the house. I buy treats that my kids like that I can take or leave. They bake a lot and often things I’m not fussed by. But I do still binge and I have always wondered why. Filling an emotional gap? Seems a bit trite. I have wondered whether it’s because I’m so skinny that my body encourages me to gorge when it’s available, like maybe primitive humans would have gorged in times of plenty?

good luck with "compensating" for pollution or sedentary working.

I teach reception so I haven't got a sitting down job but my dh walks the dog before work and goes to the gym three times a week after work.

Food noise is massive for many, but those who haven't experienced it can't comprehend it.

But the compulsive eating lots, is actually a slightly different thing.

If often brings a satiated feeling, but often guilt.

I can't eat only 1 packet of crisps, I have to eat 2, because they are now so measly. I often eat 2 chocolate biscuits because 1 id just not enough, but I never eat a whole bar because that's just too much for me and would make me feel ill.

It's really not, but you continue to judge people and polish for perfect halo 👌

I mean UPF has been engineered to be very addictive! Of course you can't target everyone perfectly so it won't affect everyone. Then add in your genetics and any trauma and you have a perfect storm.

It might be better not to buy them at all. Focus on eating as much real food as you can. Fasting can also help with cravings.

@AquaPeer

You say, “I care about the rudeness, unkindness and judgments on this thread. Which should not be mistaken for helping or informing.”

Perhaps you should re-read some of your own rude and judgemental comments.

You could be me OP! In fact the problem led to bulimia in my teens and 20s because I desperately wanted to be skinny, but was unable to manage my impulse to binge eat.

I've not had bulimia for 20 years now but have still found binging, especially on chocolate, very difficult to control. I have just always felt.insatiable hunger.

Since January this year I've been taking mounjaro and for the first time in my life I actually feel full and haven't binged! I can happily have a couple of squares of chocolate and leave the rest!!

The mounjaro has also got rid of food noise for me too. I love that I don't always think about food and sometimes just forget to eat!!! It's so weird, but really nice!

I could never eat a whole pack of biscuits or multiple packs of crisps. I didn't release there were people that did. We still have Easter eggs and Xmas chocolate hanging around the house that will get binned at some point soon.
The biscuits in the tin will all go soft before they get eaten.
This thread has been an eye opener.

100% this. I can eat a pack of biscuits and have zero feelings about it. I don’t eat enough to feel sick because that’s not a nice feeling. I don’t care about 4 packs of crisps or a pack of biscuits though

I don’t have a problem with anything I’ve posted.

It’s an eye opener that the average person doesn’t have Easter chocolate hanging round 12 months after Easter? C’mon. You protest too much, or you are very naive

There is clear unhealthy eating habits in many of the posts, where people are admitting this is a problem for them and not limited to occasional eating but something they cannot control and makes them feel stressed