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AIBU?

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To somehow retract my original response?

224 replies

Docmac · 06/03/2025 05:40

I am dating a man who has been hideously grumpy due to stress for the last 2 weeks.

He’s been very distant at times, or has suddenly snapped at me out the blue. All
completely unlike his usual lovely self. There’s been moments of normality but peppered in with either silence, disinterest or snapping.

It’s drained the hell out of me to be honest. I appreciate people get grumpy when under pressure but we’re fairly new and it’s been rubbish to be on the receiving end of.

He text me last night to apologise and to tell me the stressful issue has now been resolved, thankfully,

I sent such a fawning response back in which I (?????) apologised (what did I apologise for?? Who knows???) and said it wasn’t a problem AT ALL.

And now having slept on it, I’ve realised it was really a problem, and lord knows why I randomly apologised!

Not withstanding the fact we all do get somewhat grumpy when we’re stressed and that’s normal, AIBU to somehow retract my overly fawning response, and to more honestly explain that it’s actually been a bit shit and disrespectful?

And to clarify I totally understand our moods are affected by stress but I do actually have feelings and they’ve taken a bit of a battering.

Obviously I forgive him and appreciate the apology but I feel like I sold myself short in the way I originally responded.

OP posts:
WinterBones · 06/03/2025 09:48

Ohapal · 06/03/2025 09:38

Whilst I agree with the sentiment here, I wouldn’t go into these details with him. He’s behaved badly, he knows it, he actively plans to do it again. A bland reason, avoiding an argument or confrontation would be better.

when we give bland/nonconfrontational responses to mens behaviour we allow them to effectively get away with their bullshit.

They should be called out, loudly, and often.

BunnyLake · 06/03/2025 09:49

Thing is it doesn't matter how nice someone can be, it’s their worst behaviour that should be the deciding factor in staying or leaving. Something I wish I had heeded more in my life.

Imbusytodaysorry · 06/03/2025 09:52

Docmac · 06/03/2025 06:38

There are moments when I crossed my mind but it hasn’t been relentless or abusive. More just tiring to experienced it intermittently over the course of two weeks. It’s a far cry from how our relationship usually is.

How long have you been dating?

Wishimaywishimight · 06/03/2025 09:53

Docmac · 06/03/2025 06:38

There are moments when I crossed my mind but it hasn’t been relentless or abusive. More just tiring to experienced it intermittently over the course of two weeks. It’s a far cry from how our relationship usually is.

You say it's "a far cry from how our relationship usually is" but you also say it's a fairly new relationship. Isn't it more likely that he has been putting his 'best foot forward' up until now and it is more recently that his true self is showing?

GeorgeMichaelsCat · 06/03/2025 09:56

Interestingly he’s just woken up and replied “yeah, next time I’m that stressed better to just leave me alone till it’s resolved”.

See this would be a total turn off for me. Rather than finding a better way to cope, he just carries on with the same poor behaviour.

Imbusytodaysorry · 06/03/2025 09:57

Docmac · 06/03/2025 08:30

Thanks all. Really quite a horrid turn of events.

He called me after he woke up for what I hoped was going to be a nice chat. Hearing I was on the train he hastily hung up before I even had the chance to talk, and I’ve not been able to reach him since, which is completely out of character for him. I’ve seen him online so I know he’s seen my call.

Two weeks ago this was a dream relationship! Really sad.

Edited

So love bomber too (perfect relationship)
now it’s tome
to turn nasty push boundaries and abuse you .

Get the hell away from this one.
Wait untill you are off the train and had time to think .
Send you message it’s over and not to contact you again then delete and block.

TammyJones · 06/03/2025 10:03

EdithBond · 06/03/2025 08:51

I don’t cope well with stress. It really affects my mental health. When I’m stressed, I need a lot of empathy, reassurance and positivity. If people can’t give me that, I withdraw and use my own coping mechanisms, as I feel awful if I snap or say things I later regret.

What I find unsettling in your case is he’s said it’s best if you leave him alone. That’s putting responsibility on you. He should explain he’s not good when stressed and he doesn’t like people seeing him like that, so he finds it best to take time out. It’s not your responsibility to manage his stress. It’s his.

I wouldn’t necessarily end the relationship if he’s usually great to be with. No one’s perfect all the time. But I would if he’s not self aware or mature enough to take responsibility for his own mental health.

Agree to an extent
When I m stressed it's best to leave me alone.
How old are yiu
These days I've learnt many stressed busting method which I use as needed
My dh has a more stressful job than me and I couldn't cope with the pressure he does - some people are better at handing the stress than others
I would see how things pan out.
You said it was a great relationship 2 weeks ago -
It's very early days.

Nanny0gg · 06/03/2025 10:03

MotionofTime · 06/03/2025 06:18

I would say something like

'Just to follow up from my last message after your apology - I don't deserve to be at the receiving end of anyone's stress - it was upsetting for me at times - so I hope now you've reflected on the past few weeks, you'll find healthier ways of coping in the future'

I think that's better as an actual f-2-f conversation.

Text doesn't convey feelings properly and can get out of hand

Ohapal · 06/03/2025 10:06

WinterBones · 06/03/2025 09:48

when we give bland/nonconfrontational responses to mens behaviour we allow them to effectively get away with their bullshit.

They should be called out, loudly, and often.

I don't agree with this, in the context of the OP's situations.

How is he getting away with the behaviour? He's being dumped for it - that isn't getting away with it. That's calling it out without needing to use the words.

He isn't getting away with anything. He's paying the price by losing the relationship.

MsPavlichenko · 06/03/2025 10:06

Docmac · 06/03/2025 08:38

I’m starting to wonder. I pride myself on great mental health but it’s really shot today! I’ve not felt like this for years.

Edited

This is abuse. Have you done the Freedom Programme? You might recognise him if you do.

Cucy · 06/03/2025 10:15

All completely unlike his usual lovely self. There’s been moments of normality but peppered in with either silence, disinterest or snapping.

How long have you been dating?

How do you know his ‘normal’ self is lovely?
Why is it that it’s abnormal for him to be grumpy or snappy?

This side of him IS his normal self.

Most people have some form of stress most weeks, so this is him.

We are all lovely at first, when we get to know people better their true personalities come out.

So why are you acting like this is a random, abnormal personality lapse that won’t continue and trying to convince yourself that his lovely self is his true self??

ModernLife1sRubbish · 06/03/2025 10:24

BunnyLake · 06/03/2025 09:49

Thing is it doesn't matter how nice someone can be, it’s their worst behaviour that should be the deciding factor in staying or leaving. Something I wish I had heeded more in my life.

So true.

ZebedeeDougalFlorence · 06/03/2025 10:26

I suspect we've all done what you've done at some point. It's almost a reflex reaction. For me it's almost as though I've been trained from childhood to be "nice". Your initial reaction doesn't mean that you can't still raise the issue at some point and say that, while you understand what he's been through etc that you would appreciate it if in the future he would deal with this in a different way (I'm sure you'll be able to word this much better than me) Be prepared for him to fly off the handle. I hope he doesn't, but if he does stand your ground and don't rise to the bait. Maintain your own level headed graciousness. I hope it works out brilliantly for you.

Everyothernamewasalreadyinuse · 06/03/2025 10:33

Interestingly he’s just woken up and replied “yeah, next time I’m that stressed better to just leave me alone till it’s resolved”.

Yeah, to this i would text back.
Really, this is your response to the absolutely disgusting way you have treated me over the past couple of weeks? Not to self reflect and take some responsibility over controlling your own emotions rather than use the people around you like a emotional punching bag.
I thought i was doing the right thing by trying to support you, however this has cemented that i am not willing to be in a relationship with someone who is emotionally impotent with the emotional control of a toddler.
Please do not contact me again. This requires no further discussion.

LBFseBrom · 06/03/2025 10:37

I understand how you feel but would just leave it. When he snaps again tell him you are not putting up with it, don't deserve it and he knows where the door is.

Pleasestopthebunfight · 06/03/2025 10:39

I've not read the full thread, but it seems to me that this should be a conversation, rather than messages.

If the relationship was so good just a couple of weeks ago, it's probably worth a good honest conversation to see if it's going to work for you long term.
It's horrible feeling like you do now, but messages can be sent in haste etc.
Good luck with everything and hope it works out for the best.

AmusedGoose · 06/03/2025 10:40

What's his job? Does it hold responsibility for life and death or large monetary sums? Are you perfect? He's not the one for you it seems you expect perfection.

ArtTheClown · 06/03/2025 10:42

Are you perfect? He's not the one for you it seems you expect perfection.

There's a Grand Canyon-sized chasm between "perfect" and being treated like shit because someone has a bit of stress on. Raise your standards.

nodramaplz · 06/03/2025 10:44

I'd leave it and become distant until you decide if this is what you want from a newbie!
What will he be like in a year? Throwing things?

cooldarkroom · 06/03/2025 10:46

"Dear Norman., its not my job to deal with your mood swings, If you can't control your emotions I am not responsible for accepting them, or keeping away until you get over it.
I was hoping for a communicative adult relationship, this is clearly not that.
I'm glad I have become aware of your ability to pass blame now & not later.
This is over."

ModernLife1sRubbish · 06/03/2025 10:47

AmusedGoose · 06/03/2025 10:40

What's his job? Does it hold responsibility for life and death or large monetary sums? Are you perfect? He's not the one for you it seems you expect perfection.

OP has not insinuated that she expects perfection at all. She just doesn't want to be treated like shit every time he is feeling stressed. Clearly she sets her bar higher than you...

Docmac · 06/03/2025 10:48

Everyothernamewasalreadyinuse · 06/03/2025 10:33

Interestingly he’s just woken up and replied “yeah, next time I’m that stressed better to just leave me alone till it’s resolved”.

Yeah, to this i would text back.
Really, this is your response to the absolutely disgusting way you have treated me over the past couple of weeks? Not to self reflect and take some responsibility over controlling your own emotions rather than use the people around you like a emotional punching bag.
I thought i was doing the right thing by trying to support you, however this has cemented that i am not willing to be in a relationship with someone who is emotionally impotent with the emotional control of a toddler.
Please do not contact me again. This requires no further discussion.

The problem is it’s not that I’ve been treated like a punching bag, it’s more than I’ve been treated like a slightly irritating acquaintance. So it feels more of a grey area.

He did eventually call back and acknowledged his behaviour in a jokey way, and it told him I did not like his behaviour at all. He wasn’t particularly conciliatory though. Self aware, but not apologetic.

OP posts:
Docmac · 06/03/2025 10:50

AmusedGoose · 06/03/2025 10:40

What's his job? Does it hold responsibility for life and death or large monetary sums? Are you perfect? He's not the one for you it seems you expect perfection.

He definitely doesn’t deal with anything particularly stressful. No life or death, no money.

and I absolutely don’t expect perfection. I really just expect compromise, respect and consideration.

OP posts:
Docmac · 06/03/2025 10:51

Cucy · 06/03/2025 10:15

All completely unlike his usual lovely self. There’s been moments of normality but peppered in with either silence, disinterest or snapping.

How long have you been dating?

How do you know his ‘normal’ self is lovely?
Why is it that it’s abnormal for him to be grumpy or snappy?

This side of him IS his normal self.

Most people have some form of stress most weeks, so this is him.

We are all lovely at first, when we get to know people better their true personalities come out.

So why are you acting like this is a random, abnormal personality lapse that won’t continue and trying to convince yourself that his lovely self is his true self??

6 months, give or take.

OP posts:
Ohapal · 06/03/2025 10:51

Docmac · 06/03/2025 10:50

He definitely doesn’t deal with anything particularly stressful. No life or death, no money.

and I absolutely don’t expect perfection. I really just expect compromise, respect and consideration.

Then get rid - because he ain't it.