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Boys going to the gents by themselves what age?

215 replies

Khgvnjj · 02/03/2025 07:41

Ds is turning 7 and increasingly wants to go to the public toilets by himself. I grew up in a household of only women so no experience of this. When sis your boys start going to the gents by themselves? Did you put any caveats in place?

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Anonimouze · 02/03/2025 21:20

ShinyClouds · 02/03/2025 21:17

Boys and men should not be in women’s spaces

Boys. You mean children? Children can’t be in women’s spaces? Why not.

What interest do you think a 7yo boy has with a woman having a wee in a cubicle? A woman washing her hands at the sink?

Theres literally nothing to see. Not like in a urinal where he will be standing next to a strange man with his penis out is it?

CatStoleMyChocolate · 02/03/2025 21:20

I did let him go to the gents in a busy mainline station a few months ago, thinking we should start doing this more, and stood outside with my heart in my mouth. He then emerged and said a man had been looking at his private parts at the urinal…. So I probably won’t do that again for a while.

NewYearNewJob2024 · 02/03/2025 21:21

I completely agree with @LondonSchoolsHelp

I feel that young boys are at the same risk of SA as young girls...you wouldn't send your DD into the men's toilets alone so I certainly won't be sending my DS into them alone.

ShinyClouds · 02/03/2025 21:23

Anonimouze · 02/03/2025 21:20

Boys. You mean children? Children can’t be in women’s spaces? Why not.

What interest do you think a 7yo boy has with a woman having a wee in a cubicle? A woman washing her hands at the sink?

Theres literally nothing to see. Not like in a urinal where he will be standing next to a strange man with his penis out is it?

Edited

A woman with hands covered in blood? Bot staring?

My dd was also very uncomfortable with boys in toilets and changing rooms.

Most gyms and swimming pools have an 8 year old maximum cut off

Anonimouze · 02/03/2025 21:24

NewYearNewJob2024 · 02/03/2025 21:21

I completely agree with @LondonSchoolsHelp

I feel that young boys are at the same risk of SA as young girls...you wouldn't send your DD into the men's toilets alone so I certainly won't be sending my DS into them alone.

Exactly.

Let’s not risk the women around the men incase they are assaulted. Too dangerous for men to be in women’s spaces.

Lets save women’s embarrassment and send the little boys in instead 🙄 because men never assault children despite the fact they can’t even be in a women’s space without being a risk…

Anonimouze · 02/03/2025 21:26

ShinyClouds · 02/03/2025 21:23

A woman with hands covered in blood? Bot staring?

My dd was also very uncomfortable with boys in toilets and changing rooms.

Most gyms and swimming pools have an 8 year old maximum cut off

Most boys have mothers or sisters or relatives who have periods you know. It’s not some phenomenon to shield from the men.

I also have daughters. They are safe in a cubicle and don’t care who’s next door as they wee, why would they?

ShinyClouds · 02/03/2025 21:27

Anonimouze · 02/03/2025 21:26

Most boys have mothers or sisters or relatives who have periods you know. It’s not some phenomenon to shield from the men.

I also have daughters. They are safe in a cubicle and don’t care who’s next door as they wee, why would they?

So adult men would be ok in there?

LondonSchoolsHelp · 02/03/2025 21:41

ShinyClouds · 02/03/2025 21:27

So adult men would be ok in there?

Obviously not but an adult man in the ladies toilets is much more likely to have malign intent than a prepubescent child with his mum.

Anonimouze · 02/03/2025 21:42

ShinyClouds · 02/03/2025 21:27

So adult men would be ok in there?

Well I think that’s a poorly thought out reply to be honest considering we are talking about protecting vulnerable groups (women and CHILDREN) from sexual assault by adult males. You’re suggesting that it’s too dangerous to allow your daughter to be around a prepubescent child in a closed cubicle yet I’m supposed to allow my child around an adult man with his penis out unsupervised?

But no I wouldn’t be embarrassed about an adult male seeing me wash blood off my hands either if that’s what you’re asking. Not that that would even happen because who wanders to the sink covered in blood? I’ve literally never seen that in my 30 odd years of using women’s toilets.

verityveritas · 02/03/2025 21:45

Spot the man on the thread.

That aside I think height and maturity are probably better indicators of when boys can use the gents rather than age.

ShinyClouds · 02/03/2025 21:46

Anonimouze · 02/03/2025 21:42

Well I think that’s a poorly thought out reply to be honest considering we are talking about protecting vulnerable groups (women and CHILDREN) from sexual assault by adult males. You’re suggesting that it’s too dangerous to allow your daughter to be around a prepubescent child in a closed cubicle yet I’m supposed to allow my child around an adult man with his penis out unsupervised?

But no I wouldn’t be embarrassed about an adult male seeing me wash blood off my hands either if that’s what you’re asking. Not that that would even happen because who wanders to the sink covered in blood? I’ve literally never seen that in my 30 odd years of using women’s toilets.

I had terrible terrible periods

no males over 8 max should be in women’s toilets

ShinyClouds · 02/03/2025 21:47

LondonSchoolsHelp · 02/03/2025 21:41

Obviously not but an adult man in the ladies toilets is much more likely to have malign intent than a prepubescent child with his mum.

The logic from the op was that her dd is “safely in the cubicle”

I Disagree, but if that it her logic then why does age make a difference??

Anonimouze · 02/03/2025 21:49

ShinyClouds · 02/03/2025 21:46

I had terrible terrible periods

no males over 8 max should be in women’s toilets

Okay, when you’re happy to risk your child then I’ll risk mine. There’s no reason mine should be at risk of sexual assault or anything else any more than yours just because he happens to be male.

Until then I’ll continue to use the women’s when I feel it’s not safe for him to be alone and I’ll give 0 fucks too.

Goballistic · 02/03/2025 21:51

I walked into the ladies at my gym the other day and the was a lad in there with his mum. I would say 8 or 9 and I didnt feel that comfortable

ShinyClouds · 02/03/2025 21:52

Goballistic · 02/03/2025 21:51

I walked into the ladies at my gym the other day and the was a lad in there with his mum. I would say 8 or 9 and I didnt feel that comfortable

Yes. Agreed. Dd used to be freaked by this at our pool

Waffle19 · 02/03/2025 21:52

My eldest DS is only 4 but I can’t imagine him still coming in with me aged 8. He insists on his own cubicle as it is

ShinyClouds · 02/03/2025 21:53

Anonimouze · 02/03/2025 21:49

Okay, when you’re happy to risk your child then I’ll risk mine. There’s no reason mine should be at risk of sexual assault or anything else any more than yours just because he happens to be male.

Until then I’ll continue to use the women’s when I feel it’s not safe for him to be alone and I’ll give 0 fucks too.

Mine is 16 and 6’6 so I’ll probably continue to let him pee in the gents

Switcher · 02/03/2025 21:55

About 7

autisticbookworm · 02/03/2025 21:59

8 years old although he is disabled so we will often use the disabled toilets

Switcher · 02/03/2025 22:00

This thread is hilarious.

MarioLink · 02/03/2025 22:05

At the soft play 4, busy shopping centre 6-8, tube station or park, er when they are full grown? Wouldn't want them in the ladies past 8 though so difficult!

AngelaMerkin1 · 02/03/2025 22:07

I take my 9 year old son into the ladies if I don’t feel the men’s is safe and I will continue to do so. Couldn’t give a shit about it making anyone uncomfortable, my child’s safety is more important than someone’s feelings.

MissyB1 · 02/03/2025 22:10

The first time I let ds go into the men's toilets by himself (age 8), he was immediately confronted by the sight of one man giving another a blow job. He ran out very upset and it took hours to get him to tell me what had happened in there. That's why some of us worry about our little boys going into the mens.

Gymrabbit · 02/03/2025 22:11

AngelaMerkin1 · 02/03/2025 22:07

I take my 9 year old son into the ladies if I don’t feel the men’s is safe and I will continue to do so. Couldn’t give a shit about it making anyone uncomfortable, my child’s safety is more important than someone’s feelings.

And it’s exactly this kind of attitude that leads to narcissistic men who think their rights trump everyone else’s.
You ‘don’t give a shit’ about the feelings of women or girls. They must all
bow down to the needs of your son.
What a disgusting misogynistic attitude to have.

Khgvnjj · 02/03/2025 22:12

I wouldn't take Ds into female changing rooms in a pool even age 7. But ladies loos are more discreet. It's not like people are openly changing in there. Guess at 7, I can still take him with me to the loo for at least a bit more.

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