Non binary

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Watching first dates and someone said they were non binary and asked the bar guy what his pronouns were.
I just don’t understand surely you are male or female whether that be what you were born or not. I just can’t get my head round not feeling youre either. Can anyone please put it in simple terms for me.

Non binary is ridiculous. It just means you don’t conform to gender stereotypes. That’s it.

It doesn’t need a special name.

You’re not required to know what it feels like.

In an adult it’s infantile narcissistic nonsense.

Why bother getting your head round a pile of utter bollocks?

It's what used to be called 'attention seeking'.

Gender stereotypes are so prevalent now that some people can’t bear to think of themselves as girls or women if they have short hair or anything else that doesn’t stick to the stereotypes. Similar for some boys and men.

Also applies to some who think they are more interesting than just boy or girl, and are blind to the attention seeking connotations around it all.

It’s a phase. It’ll pass.

I am female but don’t wear a dress and have short hair. Am I non-binary? No I just like wearing jeans and having short hair. But if I was 15 id probably be labelled non-binary. It’s all a heap of nonsense.

As a straight woman I can't imagine being gay but doesn't mean others are therefore not gay. What happened to live and let live.

However you were born is how you remain. It isn’t possible to change sex.

Male or female is what you are and what you remain. You can of course present in lits of different ways- most women are non binary I think. Or at least gender fluid.

but am entitled to ask a question

No one would have a problem with it if there wasn’t a constant demand to play along and modify our speech and thoughts for the sake of their feelings.

Because someone who wants to impose their personal beliefs on others to the extent of making them is incorrect language isn’t interested in live and let live, except for them.

No, you don’t get to tell us that most women are non binary.
We are women, our biology dictates that and nothing else. NB is nothing but a pointless label in a weird screwed up world.

It's the ultimate "not like other girls." And patronizing as hell to the rest of us since they can only be "non-binary" by pretending everybody else is firmly attached to their little pink or blue stereotype boxes.

On a dating show ?
A bodybuilder without the time in the gym🫢

Yet Gay, Bi or Straight people don't feel the need to declare it on their LinkedIn bios etc. Its a fashion fad, nothing else.

I grew up in the 80's when androgyny and "gender bending" were quite the thing.

I wouldn't give a shit about how people were describing themselves now if I wasn't required to play along with made up pronouns and the pretence you can be neither male or female or it can change several times within the course of a single day.

No one has the energy for that kind of bullshit.

Nowhere did I say you weren’t.

I was referring to how people present. Every woman I know presents gender fluid or non binary- none wear exclusively masculine or feminine clothes, all wear combinations of trousers, skirts, suits, shorts, dresses… make up and jewellery never, sometimes or usually.

I don’t even recall anyone whose hair has been always short or long.

So sex, male or female. Presentation, generally fluid or non binary for women.

And the youngsters’ obsession just makes them look regressive.

Gender fluid and non binary are just nonsense made up phrases by those with deep seated issues. You don't get to say 'most women' align to those terms and that's exactly the kind of stance that got us into this pandering mess in the first place. I am woman hear me roar. About time we fought back.

I haven't seen this episode but let me guess, this person was under 30?

I can sort of see how you might feel neither female or male or quite a traditionally "feminine" man or a "masculine" woman but don't see why there has to be a song or dance about it.

And why they had to ask the Barman their pronouns 🙄
Surely just treat people as people, we're all different.

"Why do they all look like that?"

Just like we are not required to play along and pretend it’s valid

Indeed. However, the difference between 'gay' and 'non-binary', is interesting - and very simple.

If a man or woman sincerely says, "I feel I am attracted to people of the same sex as me," it must be true that person is same-sex-attracted (since to feel attracted is to be attracted).

However, if a man or woman, however sincerely, says, "I feel I am neither male nor female," it cannot be true that person is neither a man nor a woman (since every human is one or the other).

In short, "I am gay," sincerely asserted, must be true; "I am non-binary," sincerely asserted, must be false.

See?