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To think Trump might be the right Leader for right now?

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Theemeperorsnewclothes · 12/02/2025 23:25

I am so confused why I am starting to think that Trump might be a good thing right now. I do think he is making the right moves to end conflict right now, which of course can only be a good thing for the poor people suffering in war zones but I’m so conflicted. I was trying to search for why I felt this way and what past war and future war situations might mean with Trump at the helm. Below are notes to myself. I know you educated, worldly wise mums will absolutely be able to educate on what I am missing. I am genuinely interested to hear your perspectives.

Why do wars start?
War is caused by many different things, including competition over land, religious conflicts, and nationalism. Imperialism, racism, and slavery have also been causes of armed conflict.
Why do wars end?
Realistically, wars usually end when one side wins or the parties experience significant war weariness. Thus, World War I was only a temporary end-of-war because there was no clear-cut victory.
We need to put an end to why wars start, not why wars end. Too much devastation and destruction and loss of life when a war starts. In this case, like the war in Gaza there has been no clear “winner” there has been constant and significant “war weariness” but some other country/political party/religious group steps in. However, there is still never a “clear-cut victory”
Tackle the issues that START wars and not STOP wars in the first place. A true leader will make their priority tackling all the issues that start wars. Trump needs to prove himself in this approach.
That said, we are in a very volatile world and ENDING wars is the first priority. Trump appears to have that in his sights. I say this as far left viewer of the world, as opposed to the right take on the world, as it is today.
I don’t care if you are left or right or somewhere in between. War must end now and we must have a leader who can figure out how to stop it happening again. The end. The Leader who can STOP wars happening in the first place, is the one who can save humanity. Right now, we need the wars to end, and like it or not, that is the position we find ourselves in, and that’s why, I currently think it might be Trump.

Anyone have any idea who is the leader who can STOP wars happening in the first place? I’m thinking they would need to be free from corruption and probably not an egotistical, power hungry male.

End of my rant 😁.

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Mittens67 · 12/02/2025 23:27

No matter what your question is, an orange psychopath is never the answer.

Schnauzersaremyheros · 12/02/2025 23:29

I'm pretty sure Trump is not trying to end the Ukraine/Russian war out of the goodness of his own heart. He will be gaining something from this for sure!

crumblingschools · 12/02/2025 23:31

Do you think he will tell Ukrainian people to leave so he can build a fancy resort there too?

HellNoWay · 12/02/2025 23:33

No.

I am so angry with Trump I could explode. The Palestinian people have endured years and years of being systematically removed from their land. They've experienced multiple wars and for the last 15 months Palestinians living in gaza have been bombed, traumatised, had all their schools blown to bits, loved ones murdered, hospitals destroyed, infrastructure destroyed, and every single person in gaza has been utterly traumatised.

Now Trump is coming along telling them he not only agrees with their ethnic cleansing, but that he wants to steal their land himself and turn it into some kind of play thing, some real estate opportunity. How dare he. How fucking dare he.

After all they've been through.

I can't stand the evil psychopathic monster.

Honestly I hate the man.

As if Netenyahu wasn't bad enough.

Evil greedy men with power make me feel sick to my stomach. Where the fuck is his humanity. Where?

HellNoWay · 12/02/2025 23:34

crumblingschools · 12/02/2025 23:31

Do you think he will tell Ukrainian people to leave so he can build a fancy resort there too?

Probably.

Theemeperorsnewclothes · 12/02/2025 23:34

Mittens67 · 12/02/2025 23:27

No matter what your question is, an orange psychopath is never the answer.

I completely understand where you are coming from. However this “orange psychopath” appears to be brokering peace deals for now. But only for now.

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No33 · 12/02/2025 23:35

I'm not even reading your post, I already know the answer is YABVVVVVVVVU

Donotwantnot · 12/02/2025 23:36

I think Trump and Elon are doing some amazing things right now. And I’m firmly on Israel’s side.

PickAChew · 12/02/2025 23:36

Theemeperorsnewclothes · 12/02/2025 23:34

I completely understand where you are coming from. However this “orange psychopath” appears to be brokering peace deals for now. But only for now.

Who knew that wars could be avoided if only the invaded countries or states simply capitulated? Why didn't anyone think of that before?

SapphOhNo · 12/02/2025 23:37

Theemeperorsnewclothes · 12/02/2025 23:34

I completely understand where you are coming from. However this “orange psychopath” appears to be brokering peace deals for now. But only for now.

He's brokering deals that mean Ukraine will have to give up land to Russian invaders and Palestinians leave Gaza.

Anyone could have done that... they are unconscionable deals.

HellNoWay · 12/02/2025 23:37

Theemeperorsnewclothes · 12/02/2025 23:34

I completely understand where you are coming from. However this “orange psychopath” appears to be brokering peace deals for now. But only for now.

Peace deals? Oh come on.

His actions are driven by greed and a desire to align himself with Netenyahu and Putin who sees as having mutual.interests and a shared psychopathic disregard for humanity.

Peace? He is single handedly destroying the future security of the USA, not to mention many other western countries, and his followers are sleepwalking into what will be an incredibly unstable and unsafe future for America.

TeenLifeMum · 12/02/2025 23:38

I agree with him that paper straws are shit but that’s where our alignment ends. You seem to be being educated by a PR team and missing some vital facts.

Theemeperorsnewclothes · 12/02/2025 23:39

PickAChew · 12/02/2025 23:36

Who knew that wars could be avoided if only the invaded countries or states simply capitulated? Why didn't anyone think of that before?

I completely agree with you. I am interested to hear who could be a leader. There doesn’t appear to be anyone, or any political party.

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MonotoneHerbivore · 12/02/2025 23:39

Mittens67 · 12/02/2025 23:27

No matter what your question is, an orange psychopath is never the answer.

Quite. A convicted felon of an orange psychopath at that.

Martymcfly24 · 12/02/2025 23:41

Trump hasn't actually brokered any deals though has he.
Because only one side of all his deals agrees with him .
He has done what his usual modus operandi is which is big announcement lots of showman and bluster but not actually see the proper details through.
And it's always about money with him .

Neolara · 12/02/2025 23:41

I'm pretty sure any peace deal will involve the Ukrainians being made to give up the land that Russia invaded and took by force. Which will delight Putin and possibly encourage him to try the same again. So not really a brilliant outcome.

Growlybear83 · 12/02/2025 23:42

Have you been drinking heavily this evening, OP? 🤣🤣

BallerinaRadio · 12/02/2025 23:43

That was a lot of writing for a simple

No he isn't, nor he ever will be.

If you think Donald Trump is the man who is going to bring peace to the world I just can't help you

ilovesooty · 12/02/2025 23:44

No. I don't think he's fit to lead anyone, anywhere at any time.

HellNoWay · 12/02/2025 23:44

I am slightly terrified of this alliance:

Trump, Putin, Musk, Farage and Netenyahu.

White, powerful, racist, rich men who want to further their own greed and agendas. God help us all when this lot from a union.

RandomButtons · 12/02/2025 23:45

He’s a puppet. Watch the press briefing from yesterday with Musk and his son. All the body language, posturing, and what the kid was doing showed who was really in charge.

Otherwise no. He’s a very bad leader, he speaks before he thinks and throws out half baked ideas like a toddler. He’s caused constitutional crisis in multiple countries already, and by far the stupidest thing - he’s pissed off his closest ally, Canada.

He is going to cause America to implode.

Nevertrustacop · 12/02/2025 23:45

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RemusLupinsBiggestGroupie · 12/02/2025 23:45

Nothing that Trump is doing or saying is about peace in any meaningful sense of the word.

XWKD · 12/02/2025 23:47

Trump is a cunt.

Kamek · 12/02/2025 23:47

The reason why wars start is essentially - Men.

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