To think Trump might be the right Leader for right now?

[Theemeperorsnewclothes]

I am so confused why I am starting to think that Trump might be a good thing right now. I do think he is making the right moves to end conflict right now, which of course can only be a good thing for the poor people suffering in war zones but I’m so conflicted. I was trying to search for why I felt this way and what past war and future war situations might mean with Trump at the helm. Below are notes to myself. I know you educated, worldly wise mums will absolutely be able to educate on what I am missing. I am genuinely interested to hear your perspectives.

Why do wars start?
War is caused by many different things, including competition over land, religious conflicts, and nationalism. Imperialism, racism, and slavery have also been causes of armed conflict.
Why do wars end?
Realistically, wars usually end when one side wins or the parties experience significant war weariness. Thus, World War I was only a temporary end-of-war because there was no clear-cut victory.
We need to put an end to why wars start, not why wars end. Too much devastation and destruction and loss of life when a war starts. In this case, like the war in Gaza there has been no clear “winner” there has been constant and significant “war weariness” but some other country/political party/religious group steps in. However, there is still never a “clear-cut victory”
Tackle the issues that START wars and not STOP wars in the first place. A true leader will make their priority tackling all the issues that start wars. Trump needs to prove himself in this approach.
That said, we are in a very volatile world and ENDING wars is the first priority. Trump appears to have that in his sights. I say this as far left viewer of the world, as opposed to the right take on the world, as it is today.
I don’t care if you are left or right or somewhere in between. War must end now and we must have a leader who can figure out how to stop it happening again. The end. The Leader who can STOP wars happening in the first place, is the one who can save humanity. Right now, we need the wars to end, and like it or not, that is the position we find ourselves in, and that’s why, I currently think it might be Trump.

Anyone have any idea who is the leader who can STOP wars happening in the first place? I’m thinking they would need to be free from corruption and probably not an egotistical, power hungry male.

End of my rant 😁.

and thats why there are wars, people cannot be civil or at least try to debate to understand each others point of view,

Why on earth would you be referencing other posts to say I’m “stirring up trouble”? It’s really easy, don’t get involved in my posts. Don’t attack me on posts?! Maybe don’t engage in my posts

Don't post Goady threads

Thanks

'Peace deals.'

Absolutely sickening.

You know exactly what you're doing OP.

The stupidity of the human species never fails to astound me.

I'll happily try to understand someone's point of view if it's written by a human being, rather than A1 bollocks.

Peace deals.'

😂 now I've heard it all!

its not goady if people learn how to debate issues correctly without getting goaded otherwise it proves the ops point, people cannot control their emotions and resort to censorship to prevent talking and debating serious issues

Your comment makes no sense. It's not like Ukraine wants to end the war, and posters here don't want them to. Or do you think Trump and Putin care for Ukrainian soldiers more than Ukraine does?

Because of defensive individuals like you, wars are made. Individuals who can’t allow for conversations, debate, and different points of view? In my opinion that’s what makes the world a better place. I don’t care for your political views, your level of education, your class, or your gender, age, or lived experience. I care about how collectively we can make the world a better place. The only way to have our collective voices heard are through platforms such as this. You are the problem. Not the ones who put themselves out there to ask difficult questions and genuinely want to hear the answers.

OP do you even know how a peace deal is brokered? It means having someone neutral, who doesn't have skin in the game as he does with the Israelis, who has a strong negotiation background (which he doesn't) who goes to each side to find out what they want, what they're prepared to compromise on and where their red lines are. What he is doing in both the cases of Ukraine and Gaza is trying to bully the weaker sides into giving up their homeland.

Honestly, I've never read such a stupid post that's made me so angry. Do you even have a brain in there?

wars and why we go to war ect has been discussed by Sun tzu, machivelli, socrates, plato etc various authors across history.

all this thread is , is our modern version of those historical discussions

whats wrong with that, if it was good enough for our ancient history people to debate and reflect on then why not us here and now

especially when humans still go to war so easily etc

Because of defensive individuals like you, wars are made. Individuals who can’t allow for conversations, debate, and different points of view? In my opinion that’s what makes the world a better place. I don’t care for your political views, your level of education, your class, or your gender, age, or lived experience. I care about how collectively we can make the world a better place. The only way to have our collective voices heard are through platforms such as this. You are the problem. Not the ones who put themselves out there to ask difficult questions and genuinely want to hear the answers.

and in the middle are the security services

Because of defensive individuals like you, wars are made. Individuals who can’t allow for conversations, debate, and different points of view? In my opinion that’s what makes the world a better place. I don’t care for your political views, your level of education, your class, or your gender, age, or lived experience. I care about how collectively we can make the world a better place. The only way to have our collective voices heard are through platforms such as this. You are the problem. Not the ones who put themselves out there to ask difficult questions and genuinely want to hear the answers.

AI bot stuck on repeat...

you say that but look at a quote i got from the media

" In his first term, Trump proposed a “peace deal” for Israel and Palestine "

so if its good for the media to use, then why is it different if the op says it ?

You're comparing the considerations of philosophers and some of history's most intelligent thinkers to utter drivel. Okay.

its not goady if people learn how to debate issues correctly without getting goaded otherwise it proves the ops point, people cannot control their emotions and resort to censorship to prevent talking and debating serious issues

It's Goady if I say it's goady

Socrates would agree

well they did not become great from the moment they were born,
they like us had to begin debating at some point to become great thinkers

Oh dear the OP is stuck on repeat

Because he’s advocating genocide which is the opposite of peace.

@SnowFrogJelly so every needs to agree if you say so and you quote Socrates? Hmmm

Socrates, as you mentioned, valued reasoned dialogue and the pursuit of truth, but he also understood the importance of how ideas were presented and the impact of tone. It's about challenging ideas, not shutting down conversations outright,

it's essential to avoid censorship, it's equally important to foster an environment where people can debate without the fear of being intentionally provoked or silenced for voicing their perspectives

seems all some want to do with the thread is be disruptive, obnoxious, and censor the debate because they dont agree with it

so much for democracy people. bravo bravo