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To think this isn’t cliquey?

240 replies

TheIvyRestaurant · 11/02/2025 16:55

I have a son in year 3, he started in reception class just after lockdown, and we had moved across the country as a family as well to a place where I (a massive extrovert) knew nobody and did a WFH job so was eager to make friends.

The other mums were very sociable and one mum would set up a mums WhatsApp group and arranged regular mums nights out, about 4 a year, and often to welcome new mums who gradually joined. These were very inclusive, and would be places where people could get just a drink or they could eat as well and stay as long as they pleased.

As time went on the numbers dwindled, and the same people would initially say yes and then cancel last minute. Or they’d say yes and just not turn up which is quite embarrassing when a table has been booked. Someone would normally follow up with them - sometimes they’d reply sometimes they wouldn’t! And they’d do it again the next time.

It became clear that just 6 of us consistently turned up to these nights. By year 2 the 6 of us became close friends and we set up a separate WhatsApp group and arranged nights out, nights/days in, cinema trips, the occasional play date etc. We also chat at pick up and drop off, because we’re friends.

the whole class night out invotations still go out but less frequently - only one this academic year at Christmas, as just fewer people seem to want to join.

The 6 of us had a night out on Saturday and spotted another mum with her DH in a restaurant. This mum hasn’t been on a mum’s night out since reception year, and has cancelled a couple of times on the day for other nights out (relevant) we all said hello but as none of us are her friend we didn’t stop to chat.

My friend who organises the nights out (who’s in the group of six) put on the whole mums group chat yesterday about a potential night out in April. The mum we saw on Saturday replied “Is this for everyone or just the clique?”. When my friend asked her what she meant she said there is a clique that excludes people from social gatherings and also at pick up and drop off as well.

Now We are in our 4th year of schooling these kids, and personally think it’s fine to not shout “roll up roll up come for a chat” in the playground or in ie every last person to every single gathering a few of us have. It’s fine to have made friends, and it seems the people who’ve made friends are the ones who’ve made the effort.

This mum NEVER approaches us to say hello, and has never made a real effort since reception. I don’t think it’s fair to say we are a clique when actually we are just friends who have consistently made the effort with each other.

AIBU to think our group of six have the right to hang out without inviting everyone in the class because a friendship has been formed separately as adults, rather than only being linked through our children?

OP posts:
Floralnomad · 11/02/2025 17:00

Just ignore her , and personally I’d stop organising even one class get together This type of thing always ends up like this and there is always resentment from someone . That said it’s a bit disingenuous to say you are now friends and it’s nothing to do with your kids because whilst that is true you wouldn’t have met in the first place unless you had the same age children .

username299 · 11/02/2025 17:02

You are a clique. You've separated yourselves from the rest and meet privately. It's difficult to approach a clique and just join in, so I'm not surprised that hasn't happened.

However, if people choose not to come to the larger events that's on them.

Ineedanewsofa · 11/02/2025 17:06

Hmmmm, if people aren’t going to put any effort in then I can’t see why they’d expect any other outcome HOWEVER - it depends on how the big group things go/went at the time! If the 6 are always the 6 even in a larger group and don’t really invite people in who have made the effort to attend then yep, it’s a clique!

Twilightstarbright · 11/02/2025 17:12

We’ve had the exact same at our school. I don’t what people want- I invite all the parents and they don’t come so why do they want to be invited? Baffling.

We do one a term open invite to all then ad hoc stuff just me and my actual friends.

MySparklyGreyScroller · 11/02/2025 17:16

username299 · 11/02/2025 17:02

You are a clique. You've separated yourselves from the rest and meet privately. It's difficult to approach a clique and just join in, so I'm not surprised that hasn't happened.

However, if people choose not to come to the larger events that's on them.

How have they separated themselves? And not that the others have refused to engage. I hate the general mn opinion on here that you’re a clique if you don’t go down the pick up line and give a verbal personal invitation to every single parent there. There’s absolutely nothing stopping other parents from inviting you and each other? Should these 6 parents never socialise then, just to not upset the others who don’t turn up anyway?

Snorlaxo · 11/02/2025 17:22

Why didn’t someone say that if the invitation wasn’t for everyone then they wouldn’t have posted on this group chat ?

BlueSilverCats · 11/02/2025 17:25

username299 · 11/02/2025 17:02

You are a clique. You've separated yourselves from the rest and meet privately. It's difficult to approach a clique and just join in, so I'm not surprised that hasn't happened.

However, if people choose not to come to the larger events that's on them.

Did you miss the part where people were invited and they declined or accepted and then cancelled with no/short notice, which is why the smaller group happened?

username299 · 11/02/2025 17:26

BlueSilverCats · 11/02/2025 17:25

Did you miss the part where people were invited and they declined or accepted and then cancelled with no/short notice, which is why the smaller group happened?

No I didn't miss that. Did you miss the part where only six of them meet on a regular basis and don't invite anyone else?

BlueSilverCats · 11/02/2025 17:29

@username299 but that’s what happens when people fuck about and don't engage. You can't become close with someone that won’t socialise with you.

TheIvyRestaurant · 11/02/2025 17:31

Floralnomad · 11/02/2025 17:00

Just ignore her , and personally I’d stop organising even one class get together This type of thing always ends up like this and there is always resentment from someone . That said it’s a bit disingenuous to say you are now friends and it’s nothing to do with your kids because whilst that is true you wouldn’t have met in the first place unless you had the same age children .

Yes but everyone meets friends somehow. I’ve made friends through work but don’t always invite all our old colleagues when going for coffee with these friends

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Pleaseletmegohome · 11/02/2025 17:31

username299 · 11/02/2025 17:26

No I didn't miss that. Did you miss the part where only six of them meet on a regular basis and don't invite anyone else?

Because they’ve become friends as a result of being the ones who turned up to the group things. Others have had the chance and chose not to. Can’t have it both ways.

TheIvyRestaurant · 11/02/2025 17:32

Ineedanewsofa · 11/02/2025 17:06

Hmmmm, if people aren’t going to put any effort in then I can’t see why they’d expect any other outcome HOWEVER - it depends on how the big group things go/went at the time! If the 6 are always the 6 even in a larger group and don’t really invite people in who have made the effort to attend then yep, it’s a clique!

The first ever post lockdown meet up had 25 of us! And it slowly whittled down after that.

OP posts:
lnks · 11/02/2025 17:34

username299 · 11/02/2025 17:26

No I didn't miss that. Did you miss the part where only six of them meet on a regular basis and don't invite anyone else?

They had been inviting them but they never came.

The OP doesn't owe a person a friendship just because their kids are in the same class and she doesn't need to invite everyone to events.

TheIvyRestaurant · 11/02/2025 17:35

Ineedanewsofa · 11/02/2025 17:06

Hmmmm, if people aren’t going to put any effort in then I can’t see why they’d expect any other outcome HOWEVER - it depends on how the big group things go/went at the time! If the 6 are always the 6 even in a larger group and don’t really invite people in who have made the effort to attend then yep, it’s a clique!

But why can’t we be friends just the six of us without an accusation make? When do we stop having to invite people in?

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MySparklyGreyScroller · 11/02/2025 17:35

username299 · 11/02/2025 17:26

No I didn't miss that. Did you miss the part where only six of them meet on a regular basis and don't invite anyone else?

But it’s been 4 years! Can you imagine a thread on here where the op has said that after 4 years of declining or not attending invitations, there’s a mum/mums still constantly messaging and trying to get her to meet with them? There’d be at least one person on here advising her to get a cease and desist order!

CaptainFuture · 11/02/2025 17:36

username299 · 11/02/2025 17:26

No I didn't miss that. Did you miss the part where only six of them meet on a regular basis and don't invite anyone else?

So they should keep inviting people who never respond, turn up or acknowledge them?
'Sorry Jane, we can't be friends as that'll upset rando mum X, who we've only met once 4 years ago and ignores us' ?

username299 · 11/02/2025 17:36

lnks · 11/02/2025 17:34

They had been inviting them but they never came.

The OP doesn't owe a person a friendship just because their kids are in the same class and she doesn't need to invite everyone to events.

I understand it differently. There were large meet ups but few came. Those few separated themselves and formed their own group and made their own plans ie a clique.

How the clique formed isn't particularly relevant, it's still a clique.

SandrenaIsMyBloodType · 11/02/2025 17:37

I admit I clucked on the post expecting to find a tale of cliquey behaviour and this just isn't that. You have made some friends through your child's school. I suppose it's inevitable that some people on the outside may feel that this makes you less approachable as a group but it's not a clique, it's friendship. You haven't done anything rude or unkind - unlike the person who referred to you as a 'clique'.

SinkToTheBottomWithYou · 11/02/2025 17:38

Absolutely fine, OP. Did she ever organise a meet-up? I would imagine she didn’t.

YouDeserveBetterSoAskForIt · 11/02/2025 17:39

You're definitely not being unreasonable. It sounds like your group formed naturally over time because you all consistently made the effort, and that’s just how friendships work. You’ve still been inclusive with the bigger nights out, but if people don’t turn up or engage, that’s on them, not you.

It’s a bit unfair for this mum to suddenly call it a clique when she hasn’t really made an effort herself. Friendships don’t just happen by default because your kids go to the same school—you’re allowed to have your own social circle!

Maybe keep the invites to the whole group going every now and then to keep the peace, but you definitely don’t need to force friendships that aren’t there.

Floralnomad · 11/02/2025 17:40

I’m not disagreeing with what you are doing but you are friends with these women because you have kids in the same year , nothing wrong with it but you can’t say it’s got nothing to do with the kids , you only met them through the kids . You may well have been natural friends anyway but kids is the way you found each other , in the same way as baby groups do .

hopeishere · 11/02/2025 17:41

The term clique is loaded.

IMHO you are not a clique. It's a group that's has naturally formed.

They did their best to let others join in but people didn't want to come. What are they supposed to do not see each other unless it's in a huge group?

Someone up-thread posted a good reply.

HotCrossBunplease · 11/02/2025 17:41

Hmm. My main question would be, do you think she pronounces it “click” when she says the word? I need to know this in order to decide how much credibility she has 😉.

Doingmybest12 · 11/02/2025 17:43

You've become a group of friends over time, perfectly natural and normal. I would think the days of also doing the larger socials along side have gone really unless school based as otherwise it does begin to feel like an inner and outer circle no matter how much you try to avoid it. You've worked hard to keep it going but moved beyond that now. She was just stirring it though, so don't give her another thought.

TwentyTwentyFive · 11/02/2025 17:44

SinkToTheBottomWithYou · 11/02/2025 17:38

Absolutely fine, OP. Did she ever organise a meet-up? I would imagine she didn’t.

Agreed.

It's always those who moan the loudest who seems the least keen to make the effort. Fair enough if you'd all ignored her when she'd tried to organise something, she'd have a point but she's ignore all your prior invites and now thinks she's being excluded.

The mind truly boggles.

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