Am I being a massive bloody prude or is this the hill to die on?

[Joulesdog]

We have a 4 children. 2DS aged 24 &21, DD1 who is 13 and dd2 who was a surprise is 4.

DD1 is very into Taylor Swift, Sabrina Carpinter, Charlie xcx etc. she 14 and is obsessed.
I'm happy to let her listen to whatever (within reason)

As a family we have a shared Vinyl player that is DH's pride and joy. Each child wants to buy albums for the vinyl as they like the sound of it and whoever chooses the records on a Sunday gets to have them playing through Sunday dinner etc.

Oldest DD's birthday is coming up soon and she wants as part of her presents the Charlie XCX 'brat and it's complicated' release on vinyl and I said yes but Charlie xcx has released this vinyl album with white powder inside the record that moves around on the vinyl player and it's meant
To be like a bag of cocaine.

DH thinks it's hideous and sends the wrong message coming and I'd usually disagree and say things have changed since our generation but I think this is awful

If our daughter is correct then lots of her yr 9 friends will get a vinyl copy of an album where this is white powder inside the record that moves around when it's played?

Am I out of touch? I just think this is Insane

Just get the standard version without the powder?

I would die on this hill. Anything that promotes drug use in my household is banned, particularly stuff like this that’s trying to be edgy and cool. Don’t care if I’m an old-fashioned fuddy duddy- seen too many young people over my life destroy themselves with drug use and most of them used the “soft” drugs like weed and coke.

‘Twas ever thus OP - when I was younger Frankie Goes to Hollywood was banned, before that The Sex Pistols. I’m now a boring middle-aged woman so no harm has befallen me.

Are you worried she’ll start taking cocaine?

I can guarantee her 13 year old friends don't all have records, let alone this one.

I hadn't even considered that as an option . Thank you!

I'm not worried about her taking drugs it's more the normalisation of it? I feel like it's a slippery slope. I probably am overreacting but it just seems a bit much this.

I'll see if I can get a non powdery version of the album.

No, I wouldn't get this for her.

I'd put my foot down on this one.

No. Glamorising drugs.
I would also cringe at eg a vinyl covered in cannabis leaves.
also, there are soooooooo many other vinyls in this world to choose!!

Does this not make it obvious to you that this album isn’t suitable for a 14yo. Have you listened to it? Or the most recent Sabrina Carpenter one?

I wouldn’t buy that either, but would also use It as an excuse to talk about all the exploitation, abuse, trafficking, death and political hell in countries in South America.

To be honest, the whole Brat album is not for a 14 year old, vinyl cover or not. It’s literally an album about doing cocaine.

How stupid and careless to promote drug use! I wouldn't buy the album let alone give it as a gift to an impressionable child. On the flip side (pardon the pun), I think by banning it you're going to draw attention to it or even make it more desirable... forbidden fruit, etc. It depends on the teenager though.

Hard no from me, and I'm no prude. I don't think kids need any more of this shit in their lives.

I think saying no to that version is perfectly reasonable, and that's what I would do

But also here's a sampling of the lyrics

(Ayy) Ooh, these bitches, we tied
(Ayy) Art is not a competition
(Ayy) Rating go up when the clothes come off
(Ayy) But a real bitch come when the dick goes up, like
(Ayy) Ooh, these bitches rip off
(Ayy) Wish they could be OG, but they not
(Ayy) We going psycho, we going off
(Ayy) Yeah, me and Charli, we the party girl gods
(Ayy) Oh baby, you mad watchin' me win
(Ayy) Do it again 'cause I'm Kesha, bitch
(Ayy) Makin' me sick, nominated
(Ayy) All the motherfuckers better be prayin'
(Ayy) Singin' my song, singin' along
(Ayy) TikTok bitch 'til the kingdom come
(Ayy) Give 'em a hit, they can eat shit
(Ayy) Choke on my name when you suck on my dick

So I'm not sure where the surprise is coming from TBH.

I'd die on that hill, and wouldn't be purchasing anything by an artist who promotes that, knowing she sppeals to teenagers. Nope. No way.

Good God!

Oh my goodness this is awful!

It’s a good opportunity to talk about why you’re not buying it.

Perfect soundtrack to a Sunday roast with the family.

I reckon Dad singing this dancing round the kitchen would soon put DD off it though 🤣

Pure poetry.

If poetry was redefinded as indulgent crap perhaps?

Lord have mercy.
Thank god my DC weren't that into rap.
I would not being buying that album.
Hard no.
If DD goes and buys it with her birthday money so be it but I would be telling her it's hardly a feminist tribute.

I'd be much more concerned about the lyrics, don't these things come with an age rating?

Indeed, indeed!

I expect this would work better than banning it. Can't imagine something that'll turn a teen girl off it faster 😂.

Having said that, I'm pretty relaxed on song lyrics and couldn't get fused on the fake cocaine, but I absolutely wouldn't be buying anything with that song on it for my DD.