Am I being a massive bloody prude or is this the hill to die on?

[Joulesdog]

We have a 4 children. 2DS aged 24 &21, DD1 who is 13 and dd2 who was a surprise is 4.

DD1 is very into Taylor Swift, Sabrina Carpinter, Charlie xcx etc. she 14 and is obsessed.
I'm happy to let her listen to whatever (within reason)

As a family we have a shared Vinyl player that is DH's pride and joy. Each child wants to buy albums for the vinyl as they like the sound of it and whoever chooses the records on a Sunday gets to have them playing through Sunday dinner etc.

Oldest DD's birthday is coming up soon and she wants as part of her presents the Charlie XCX 'brat and it's complicated' release on vinyl and I said yes but Charlie xcx has released this vinyl album with white powder inside the record that moves around on the vinyl player and it's meant
To be like a bag of cocaine.

DH thinks it's hideous and sends the wrong message coming and I'd usually disagree and say things have changed since our generation but I think this is awful

If our daughter is correct then lots of her yr 9 friends will get a vinyl copy of an album where this is white powder inside the record that moves around when it's played?

Am I out of touch? I just think this is Insane

I don’t think your daughter is the 365 party girl demographic Charli is going for!
Although if you put aside all the drugs and sex in the lyrics she’s an amazing example of someone who owns themselves.
Sabrina Carpenter’s lyrics are pretty filthy too!!

I don't think this is going to make good Sunday listening as a family.

1. I don't believe all 14yos have record players.
2. you don't have to have anything in your house that actively goes against your beliefs/values. It's not a hill to die on, it's just standard parenting.

What do your older boys think?

No, I wouldn't buy the record with the powder.

Whilst the lyrics are vile, I grew up with punk, etc., and have fond memories of pogo'ing to Hit me with your Rhythm Stick.

If the content of the music doesn’t bother you just get the normal record.
Isn’t the coke one made by Bad Vinyl, the company who made the… interesting.. saltburn vinyl? Not sure how much influence the artists have with this company putting out their music though.

You allow her to listen to graphic songs about sex and drugs, but images of drugs is where you draw the line? 🤣

I agree with you and would not be comfortable with this either.

that is shocking
no way

Missing the point, but when did 'record player' become 'vinyl player'? 😆

That shite "music" isn't coming near my kids ears regardless of the medium, powdery or otherwise.

In the late 60s there was song banned, it was called Jump up and down and wave your knickers in the air. Totally innocent compared to the idiot making their albums look like cocaine bags. Drug takers like a drug buddy.

My 14 year old has decided to start dressing like a boy and listens to classical music.

I was really worried about her, but if this is now the ‘norm’ then I’m totally not worried…

I'm not sure how you can stop a child LISTENING to that sort of music. Of course you could ban it in the home, but they can still listen elsewhere

I'd chat about the lyrics and find out what they think. Perhaps explain how some people might feel when hearing those words

Regards the powder - no, that's just wrong
Buy the non powder vinyl

Anything that glorifies drug use is a hard no from me - because I’m only too aware of the young kids whose lives are ruined through gangs and county lines in getting the weekend cocaine to the middle classes.

As long as she doesn't think she IS a boy, then it's all good. There's a lot of amazing classical music out there.

Since all the teenagers started calling records vinyl. 😬

@Rafting2022
I bought my first album when I was 13. It was Lou Reed Tranformer. Walk on the Wild Side is still a favourite for me, it's about a transgender prostitute. I also still listen to heroin by Lou Reed a song about how it feels to take - unsurprisingly heroin.
The journalist who writes the parliamentary sketch for the guardian quotes from heroin sometimes, I guess my out there music choices as a teen couldn't be more mainstream today.
OP I can't believe you would subject yourself to other people's music at dinner, that would send me over the edge.
Also if anyone wants to put their teenagers off cocaine lend them that Sweet Valley High book where the girl dies from it. Put me right off trying it.

I would also put my foot down. You’d think these rap artists and musicians would sing about NOT doing drugs since they have such a large teen audience. Seems weird

That is not family listening. Parents have to draw the line. My parents’ generation banned Eminem in the house.

Here’s me chuckling away because I can absolutely see a four year old picking up on those lyrics at the most inopportune point during Sunday dinner… kids will sing along to anything.

As a side note I’ve never heard anyone else reference ‘leap up and down and wave your knickers in the air’ 🤣 it’s on the Black Lace (of Agadoo fame) ‘Party Party 2’ album that we had as kids!

If dd went round someone’s house who had that, at that age, I’d be appalled in all honesty. Coke is such a horrible drug, yet is normal in some circles. I don’t want it normalised with my dc.

I posted some lyrics above - this isn’t kid’s music and I wouldn’t personally buy it for my 14 year old (and it certainly wouldn’t be playing at Sunday dinner).

But let’s not pretend this is groundbreaking or shocking. My dad was a teen listening to Eric Clapton croon openly about cocaine in the 1970s at the same time David Bowie was singing confusing cocaine side effects with love, and that was 10 years after the Beatles were openly wondering over LSD and Jefferson Airplane… was Jefferson Airplane. Nothing’s changed - a few years ago we couldn’t go anywhere without hearing how The Weeknd couldn’t feel his face.

Is any of that worse than my friends and I as tweens doing choreographed dances (thankfully pre camera-phones) while singing about how you’ve gotta rub me the right way and asking if someone would hit me baby one more time? I don’t really know. But teens have been scandalizing parents with their choice in music (and fashion and language) for a very, very long time. Then we accidentally get old and find ourselves becoming the parents cringing and trying to figure out where to draw the line. It’s the natural order of things.

I HATED the kings of Leon song Sex on Fire when my 4 year old granddaughter started singing "head when you're driving " always switch em off when they're played on the radio. It enrages me.!

This is nothing new! In my youth (Britpop era) there was uproar about the CD single cover for Pulps 'Sorted For E's And Wizz'. You could fold it up into a sleeve to hide drugs in 🤣

I had the single but I never turned into a junkie 😜