Am I being a massive bloody prude or is this the hill to die on?

[Joulesdog]

We have a 4 children. 2DS aged 24 &21, DD1 who is 13 and dd2 who was a surprise is 4.

DD1 is very into Taylor Swift, Sabrina Carpinter, Charlie xcx etc. she 14 and is obsessed.
I'm happy to let her listen to whatever (within reason)

As a family we have a shared Vinyl player that is DH's pride and joy. Each child wants to buy albums for the vinyl as they like the sound of it and whoever chooses the records on a Sunday gets to have them playing through Sunday dinner etc.

Oldest DD's birthday is coming up soon and she wants as part of her presents the Charlie XCX 'brat and it's complicated' release on vinyl and I said yes but Charlie xcx has released this vinyl album with white powder inside the record that moves around on the vinyl player and it's meant
To be like a bag of cocaine.

DH thinks it's hideous and sends the wrong message coming and I'd usually disagree and say things have changed since our generation but I think this is awful

If our daughter is correct then lots of her yr 9 friends will get a vinyl copy of an album where this is white powder inside the record that moves around when it's played?

Am I out of touch? I just think this is Insane

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I consider myself fairly up to date with pop music and not pride in the slightest but Charlie xcx is some of the worst, tackiest crap I have ever heard

I used to listen to a lot of Pulp when I was the OP's child's age. There was a lot of seedy sex references in there - Sheffield Sex City, Babies, Pink Glove, Underwear - and friends of mine were listening to metal and rap that had plenty of, shall we say, not entirely age appropriate content. One of our fave songs was Super Furry Animals' Something For The Weekend that's about dropping acid, yet somehow we never got into the ol'LSD.

How very different from the home life of our own dear Queen.

I have no idea what this is about, but you clearly haven't gone to the same gym changing rooms I've been in. Tits and fannies all over the shop.

Anyway, back to cocaine-filled vinyl (which I think is quite a funny design, but then I'm a grown adult who appreciates the irony rather than a teenager who's at more of a risk of not knowing the drug trade is awful and cocaine is a wanker's drug)

Haha! Just picturing her Dad dancing along to lyrics about choking on a dick. 😂

The older I get the more I see things from Mary Whitehouse's point of view. 😳 It's a very uncomfortable truth.

This is the hill to die on, not sure I'd even buy the normal one.

Fine if you don't want your daughter to have this vinyl, but I don't see an issue with it overall- as someone else said earlier the entire album is about taking cocaine, she openly takes cocaine while DJ-ing and on stage, the whole 'Brat summer' thing is about being messy and taking drugs etc, so it's just playing on that.

I love Brat but I'm amazed you have it on during Sunday lunch- not because of the subject matter just because it would be far to bangy and distracting for me!

I'd rather stab my ears than listen to that shit during Sunday dinner.

Yeah I would not get this, agree its a normalisation of something that you don't want your kids going anywhere near.

The mention of 'Me and Charli...' makes me wonder if she (Camz PxB?) puts it on when everyone's out and dances round the kitchen?

Buying vinyl with white powder in it isn’t going to turn anyone into a coke head or a country lines dealer - I think it’s a smidgen more complicated than that? I gather at 14 she already knows cocaine exists and that it’s glamorised by certain rock stars? So it’s a non event really.

I would be way, way more concerned about the lyrics.

This has made me feel very old. I don’t find it at all offensive because I have absolutely no idea what it is saying 😂

the album is about getting absolutely munted at the club....so its on theme.

I was going to say exactly the same thing.... don't think my parents realised what it was

I still remember how to fold it (that and origami swans) never used it to store drugs (mostly paperclips etc)

Agree her friends definitely don’t have a vinyl record player 😂
Get the version without the cocaine. Or open it and cut it all out and bin before she gets the record?? I’d be a little bit mindful of music culture and the often degradation of women that comes with it. Beyond that I think you’re fine!!

In contrast to the lyrics previously posted (from the Brat album)

I'd go back in time to when I wasn't insecure
To when I didn't overanalyse my face shape
Nowadays, I only eat at the good restaurants
But honestly, I'm always thinkin' 'bout my weight
I used to never feel embarrassed
Feel embarrassed when I call up the paparazzi
Everyone else does it constantly
I hate these doubts that keep runnin' through my mind
Sometimes I really think it would be cool to rewind
Sometimes
I just wanna rewind
Sometimes (sometimes, sometimes)
I just wanna rewind
Used to burn CDs full of songs I didn't know
Used to sit in my bedroom, puttin' polish on my toes
Recently, I've been thinkin' 'bout a way simpler time
Sometimes I really think it would be cool to rewind
I used to never think about Billboard
But now I've started thinkin' again
Wonderin' 'bout whether I think I deserve commercial success
It's runnin' through my mind
Sometimes I really think it would be cool to rewind

No swearing, no drugs. Expressing a longing for who she used to be, a warning on the pressures facing young women and the self doubt experienced by many of her fans.

@Joulesdog Get the Brat but it's the same vinyl, it's white.

Assuming most posters here are 40+, guess none of you listened to Pink Floyd or The Stranglers or Nirvana (Nevermind drugs and guns galore), The Spice Girls or heaven forbid Madonna, plus countless others. These songs aren't new material the language is just different.

I still love Icona Pop and Charli's "I love it". Perfect 20s breakup song.

Did you not realise the lyrics when you said yes?

I'm not sure that the powder in the album is any more inappropriate than the entire album of lyrics 😆

Lyrics fine, whatever. But I think an artist releasing an album normalising coke for teenagers is just fucking stupid.

I have 3 pre teen girls. I'd buy the non-spinny-coke version myself.

Completely agree. There were some horrific cases where vulnerable people were exploited.

I added the source region as I had seen a few comments about harm in the UK.

none of this should be forgotten and drugs should absolutely not be glamorized in any way.

This is so naff! Tell her it is embarrassing.

OMG I would’ve loved that as a kid! To be fair I did go on to have a raging cocaine problem in my 20s.

YANBU

Is music that was created under the influence included? You'll have a very limited record collection if so.
Remember the Oasis singles were brought out in what looked like Benson & Hedges cartons. Even my fairly prudish Catholic parents allowed that.