To be really glad I don't live in America right now

[AnonymousBleep]

I really feel for ordinary Americans. It's bad enough on this side of the Channel, hearing daily about Trump's latest petty, spiteful, idiotic bullshit - that rant against the Bishop who asked him to have mercy on immigrants, the ridiculous and insulting attempt to blame 'diversity' for the plane crash - but living under it must be so much worse. And heaven help you if you're LGBT or a woman. Or an immigrant. Or not white. Or poor. Or anyone else Trump and his freakshow of a government despises. I moan about the UK all the time, like everyone else who lives here, because god knows it's far from perfect, but at least we don't have a government in charge who is trying to strip huge swathes of the population of their rights and citizenship.

You have not yet told me of the three chromosomal, gonadal, or anatomical sex takes precedence.
Go on, tell me which of the three takes precedence? Her appearance as you quoted above or her chromosomes?
Also tell me what your quals are. What do you have a degree in?

Or neither. Many intersex individuals can't produce either.

Or South Africa, especially if you have HIV/AIDS.

It does not matter if you are fertile or not

An 8 year old girl is infertile - still female

A woman with a hysterectomy is still female

a 90 year old woman, is infertile and releasing no eggs - she is still female

Male or female is coded into your genes at conception and is binary

You have no qualifications.

You say everyone is either male or female. You don't accept broader biology authorities but insist we only consider humans. So I am providing an example of one individual who is not neatly male or female.

You have not yet told me of the three chromosomal, gonadal, or anatomical sex takes precedence.
Her appearance as you quoted above or her chromosomes?
Also tell me what your quals are. What do you have a degree in?

When determining sex, there isn’t a simple hierarchy that can be universally applied across all cases, but the chromosomal sex typically takes the highest precedence in biological classification. Here’s how each of these factors plays a role:

1. Chromosomal Sex (Genetic Sex): This is usually the first and most definitive determinant of biological sex. At conception, an individual’s sex is determined by the chromosomes inherited from the parents: XX for females and XY for males. The presence or absence of the Y chromosome, specifically the SRY gene on it, triggers the development of male characteristics. If the Y chromosome is present (XY), the person will typically develop male gonads (testes), and if it’s absent (XX), the person will typically develop female gonads (ovaries).
2. Gonadal Sex (Testes vs. Ovaries): Gonadal sex refers to whether the individual develops testes or ovaries. In most cases, the presence of the Y chromosome and SRY gene leads to the development of testes, which then secrete male hormones (androgens) that guide the development of male anatomical traits. In the absence of the Y chromosome (XX), ovaries develop, which, in turn, produce female hormones (estrogens) leading to the development of female anatomical traits.
3. Anatomical Sex (Phenotypic Sex): This is the external physical manifestation of sex, including genitalia and secondary sexual characteristics (e.g., body hair, breast development, etc.). Anatomical sex typically follows gonadal sex; for example, testes will lead to the development of male genitalia, and ovaries will lead to female genitalia. However, this can be influenced by factors like hormone exposure or receptor function (as seen in conditions like androgen insensitivity syndrome).
4. Genes (SRY Gene, Others): While chromosomal sex largely dictates the course of development, specific genes are responsible for sexual differentiation. For example, the SRY gene on the Y chromosome plays a key role in initiating male development. There are also other genes and regulatory elements that contribute to gonadal and anatomical differentiation. In some cases, individuals may have genetic mutations that affect their sexual development (e.g., mutations in the AR gene leading to androgen insensitivity), which can result in discrepancies between chromosomal sex and anatomical sex.

In a typical biological scenario, chromosomal sex takes precedence as it sets the foundation for subsequent development. Gonadal and anatomical sex follow this chromosomal blueprint, with genes playing a critical role in this developmental process. However, intersex conditions, where discrepancies occur between chromosomal, gonadal, and anatomical sex, highlight the complexity and variability in how biological sex can be expressed.

He - is male. Thats the entire point

He is male. No arguments. No in-betweens. He is male. He has CAIS. We already went over this. Do you read?

Also - we are only talking about humans. Just people ok?

Which of the three chromosomal, gonadal, or anatomical sex takes precedence? You admit some people may be raised female though XY. So which of the three takes precedence?
I am not talking TRANS, I am talking INTERSEX.

Apologies. I've no idea if it originated in the US- you're the one using the term restroom so I was assuming you were from the US? "Restroom" is not a word I've ever heard used in the UK.

It means "trans rights activist", to save you valuable googling time.

I know how they relate, what I want to know is which one takes precedence? You actually think a person who has been raised female and socialised female has to use men's restrooms because of XY chromosomes? Is that your final answer?

@MeTooOverHere I don't think the complexities of DSDs necessitate gender ideology. However a medical team determines sex for a complex case can be separate to requiring any gender ideology.

So no need for the latter and DSD situations can still be assessed.

Yes. I've said it 26 times

MALES IN THE MENS

FEMALES IN THE LADIES

ffs.

Oh I know this one!

It's because that would be as helpful as playground taunts of "..well.. well.. your mother is one too!"

if you have a rational point to make just make it.

You’re blind as well as unpleasant.

"They won't. Their voters are all older people, and there's simply not the numbers to make that happen."

@AnonymousBleep - young men in particular show high support for reform

Maybe try to engage with views you disagree with instead of condemning people who don't have the same opinions as you

Which bit of the quote you've highlighted is me 'condemning' anything?

Right? snort.

The Trans bullshit is just that, another pile of bullshit.

Why some people have decided to pretend humans can no longer tell the difference between men and women is beyond me.

Give it a fucking rest, just how fucking dumb do you want to look? EVERYBODY can tell! You can pretend if you want. But you can't make others. And by trying to force people to you only piss them off and hand ammunition to the right.

Dummies.

Did you just cite Pink News asan authority?! 😅😅🤣

PrickNews? Are you for real? Did you truly use that as a source? Nothing they post is true or realistic.

Nothing to do with gender ideology. Might be DSD but not always.

In case you haven't noticed people who are intersex are often vilified. Hence they tend to stay out of MSM and often will only talk to media which is supportive. Yes it makes it hard to find unbiased media sources. But it is what it is.

Thank you I'm not American but I assume some posters are so I was trying to use a term they might understand. I'm not a trans rights activist, on the contrary in real life I keep schtum about trans because my opinion is non PC.

Oh I see. It's a POLICY decision you've adopted. Nothing to do with how things work in the real world. My apologies, I thought with your determined forceful communication style you actually did not believe there is such a thing as Intersex. But now I realise you have adopted a political stance. Well I'm sure wherever you live, that will work really well for you.

You’re a fool who keeps willfully ignoring what we are all writing.

everyone is either male or female. Everyone. I don’t care if they know it or not.

males going the mens

females in the women’s.

no excuses. Ever. Not one.

that’s it.

now away with you.