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To be really glad I don't live in America right now

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AnonymousBleep · 31/01/2025 09:57

I really feel for ordinary Americans. It's bad enough on this side of the Channel, hearing daily about Trump's latest petty, spiteful, idiotic bullshit - that rant against the Bishop who asked him to have mercy on immigrants, the ridiculous and insulting attempt to blame 'diversity' for the plane crash - but living under it must be so much worse. And heaven help you if you're LGBT or a woman. Or an immigrant. Or not white. Or poor. Or anyone else Trump and his freakshow of a government despises. I moan about the UK all the time, like everyone else who lives here, because god knows it's far from perfect, but at least we don't have a government in charge who is trying to strip huge swathes of the population of their rights and citizenship.

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EasternStandard · 08/02/2025 13:53

Nothing to do with gender ideology. Might be DSD but not always.

First line exactly. So we can stop gender ideology and deal with DSD separately

That's what is the issue, gender ideology

Mytholmroyd · 08/02/2025 14:13

I have seen several people with DSDs posting on social media begging people to stop using the outdated, and in their opinion, demeaning term intersex. They are at pains to point out that they ARE either male or female - there is nothing in between.

DSDs are variations of sexual development in either XY or XX. The only time (as far as I know) that someone is genuinely both sexes is when a fetus absobs a twin of the opposite sex in the womb but these chimeras are vanishingly rare.

PrincessSophieFrederike · 24/10/2025 05:36

PurpleAxe · 07/02/2025 04:51

Of course they did.

Either that or they are even stupider bastards then I give them credit for.

A quick Google of history, a read of a couple of books would have given them a hint of what Israel's reaction to October 7th was going to be.

It doesn't matter whether you think Hamas/Israel is right or justified or any of that. It doesn't take a genius to figure out that if you cross the border into your technologically advanced neighbours' (who you have an uneasy truce with) territory and proceed to rape and kill a bunch of their citizens they are going to respond with extreme force.

Hamas are either stupid pricks who got their people killed through arrogance and hatred or evil fucks who deliberately sacrificed thousands so they could whine.

Israel is a bully who is defending what it thinks is its territory and now it has reduced Gaza to rubble, and will probably take the lot.

And what exactly is the world going to do about it? Pass some more resolutions? Issue some warrants? Sanctions? Not with the US on their side. You are all spitting chips about Trump at the moment but they are still the dominant power. Fuck all, that is what the world is going to do about it.

They are going to bluster and make noises. Look at Ukraine. What has anyone actually done? Fuck all. Europe combined could stop Russia. Hasn't though has it? So you sacrifice those civilians to keep yours safe.

Because, quite rightly no-one wants to actually hit the real buttons. So Israel will probably finish off Gaza WHEN the ceasefire breaks, take the lot, and the Middle East will stay the clusterfuck it has always been.

We sit in the West and pretend that we care. But we don't, not really. We don't want to DO anything. Just moralise and tell the people in the trenches what they are doing wrong and how they should be doing things.

None of it matters anyway. Humans will always find a reason to hate and fight each other. These excuses are just the most recent.

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Hmm... so Europeans are 'sacrificing' Ukranian civilians to keep ours safe?

Otoh, I can see that we're relying on Ukraine to fight Russia rather than doing so ourselves.
Zelensky has always been strongly pro-fighting back, we haven't forced him into that position.

Maybe you're right that the most moral thing would be for Europe to directly intervene in Ukraine. However, I think you're making it more black and white than it truly is. A mass European entry to the war would be hugely unpopular with populations, and it would very likely lead to much higher loss of life than would otherwise happen. Is THAT a better moral option? Not go mention there is still a threat of nuclear war from Putin if more of us intervene.

If we withdrew aid, he'd probably have to stop fighting. And maybe we should- I don't think the cost in lives at this point is worth it. Nor do I think that Putin wants to take over Western Europe- though otoh I am still very wary.

Also, this disproves your point about the UK doing 'fuck all'. Like it or not, we HAVE contributed a lot with resources, sanction etc Dismissing that with 'fuck all' is ridiculous.

MissConductUS · 24/10/2025 16:48

If we withdrew aid, he'd probably have to stop fighting. And maybe we should- I don't think the cost in lives at this point is worth it. Nor do I think that Putin wants to take over Western Europe- though otoh I am still very wary.

I'm ex-military. If aid is withdrawn, the Ukrainians will keep fighting, and their local production of conventional arms, missiles and drones is quite respectable now. They need money and some military supplies that they don't or can't produce locally, but they'll fight the Russians with whatever they have. It's a war of national survival.

Putin likely does not want to occupy Western Europe, but he does want to occupy or have de facto control over Eastern Europe. He also wants to break up NATO and bully the Western European countries into submission with hybrid warfare tactics, sabotage and false flag operations. He's already used chemical weapons to kill people on British soil. I think the UK should have a very heathy fear of Russian intentions, and be prepared to counter them.

MissConductUS · 24/10/2025 18:04

Sky News did a podcast earlier this year that war gamed a scenario in which Russia attacks the UK. It's not implausible.

news.sky.com/story/the-wargame-podcast-what-if-russia-attacked-the-uk-13381047

ToWhitToWhoo · 25/10/2025 16:06

whoamI00 · 31/01/2025 12:18

I think your view is a bit extreme. He has different views on gender issues, immigration, etc., but he doesn’t seem to have any intention of making his country worse. He truly believes in what he wants to do, and I think that’s why he has supporters in his home country and won the election.

People who 'truly believe' in dangerous and harmful policies are often more dangerous than those who are less principled and can be persuaded to modify their policies in view of their own self-interest.

Hiller believed in his policies So did Stalin. Islamist suicide bombers are prepared to give their lives for their beliefs.

'Truly believing' in harmful causes makes you more dangerous, not less so.

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