To be really glad I don't live in America right now

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I really feel for ordinary Americans. It's bad enough on this side of the Channel, hearing daily about Trump's latest petty, spiteful, idiotic bullshit - that rant against the Bishop who asked him to have mercy on immigrants, the ridiculous and insulting attempt to blame 'diversity' for the plane crash - but living under it must be so much worse. And heaven help you if you're LGBT or a woman. Or an immigrant. Or not white. Or poor. Or anyone else Trump and his freakshow of a government despises. I moan about the UK all the time, like everyone else who lives here, because god knows it's far from perfect, but at least we don't have a government in charge who is trying to strip huge swathes of the population of their rights and citizenship.

If that male doesn't go through female puberty, then they go through male puberty. And will have the large male body and frame. They may have mixed female genitals, but women will still clock their male frame, like Imane Khelif's. So, yes. They can be eased into it.

Oh don't use that emotional manipulation on us. There is no evidence the DSD community has a high level of suicide, let alone because they have to use their sexed toilets.

They know with puberty, or the lack thereof. Are you seriously suggesting parents wouldn't take their daughter to the doctor if they hadn't had their period by 15, just to check nothings wrong?

Yes, it wouldn't be nice. But what can we do about them finding out they are a different sex? We can't do anything to help that.

They will use the males as they will have internal testes and go through male puberty and have male frame like Khelif's. At the end of their teens their body will be demonstrably male, even if the young teenage one isn't that way.

Calling women 'cnts' is a vile and misogynistic habit I have noticed that anti-women/TRAs have. It just proves the movement is rooted in misogyny and hatred of women.

Agree there's been plenty of abuse aimed at women. Threats of violence and actual violence too.

I was using that word towards a man for a start. And for trying to ruin the life of a woman he deemed not attractive, for encouraging bullying of her teenage daughters, yes. I will use the strongest word I know.

Again. You support some women. Not all, so stop claiming otherwise.

No I support ALL women. So don't lie and misrepresent me.

You've repeatedly said you don't care about my "anecdote" which clearly shows you don't care about the abuse faced by my friend. You have repeatedly failed to actually read what I have written. You've accused me of being woman hating when you know NOTHING about me.

But you just sit there and froth on the internet and let the rest of actually make positive changes in the world.

TRAs are always at their most hilarious during their forays into "science".

Apologies, there's also these earlier horse (and invertebrate) related ponderings.

You're mistaking me for another poster. Go back, I never once referenced your friend or used the word anecdote. That was the other poster.

Sadly not. My hairdresser voted for Reform - she can’t be any older than 30. Said she was sick of both major parties messing things up and that it’s time to give another party a chance.

I remember people used to vote Lib Dem or Green when they thought like this - but I know several women who won’t go near them because of their stance on gender.

But referencing your friend, I will say what happened to her was horrible. And you are a good friend to care. I hope those who harassed her had the book thrown at them. Stalking, harassment, the works. There is no excuse for what happened to your friend, that was horrible!

However you seem to use that to suggest we are wrong for wanting single sex spaces. You are blaming the wrong people. You should be blaming those who want males in female spaces for making women and girls on high alert, which is a natural response to males in our intimate single sex spaces - surely you would agree with that much at least. Its like throwing a fox into the hen house, then blaming the hens for squawking every time a fox goes near the hen house. Its natural for women now to be on high alert, but you're victim-blaming by saying we are wrong for our natural reaction. Most women who are questioned in the ladies, as soon as they speak it becomes apparent and then its 'ok, no worries'. Its really over and done with in a few seconds and not a big deal. And a few of these women who have been questioned have said they appreciate other women looking out for women and their spaces so don't take it personally. What happened to your friend is another matter entirely and I hope those responsible in someway paid for it?

Intersex is another word for DSD. differences in sexual development

EVERYONE WITH A DSD IS EITHER MALE OR FEMALE

Repeat after me:

EVERYONE WITH A DSD IS EITHER MALE OR FEMALE

People with a Difference of Sexual Development (DSD) are still categorized as male or female based on their chromosomal, gonadal, or anatomical sex, though their bodies may not fit typical definitions of male or female. A DSD refers to a variety of conditions where an individual’s sexual development is atypical, but their sex is still typically recognized as male or female based on their physical characteristics or genetic factors. It’s important to note that while a DSD can cause variations in sex characteristics, it does not change the fundamental male or female classification of an individual. However, the complexity of these conditions highlights the diversity of human biology.

A lack of penis and testicles does not make you female.

What are you so hard of thinking?

Every single well researched, high quality study finds this to be entirely false

Gender affirming care makes no difference to mental health and does not reduce suicide.

It does not matter.

Males in the mens room

Females in the ladies.

Done.

YABVU
He won the election by a vast majority, so you can’t with that.

At least he’s behind America, unlike the idiotic government we’ve got in the UK, who lets its own people sleep on the streets and sends billions of aid to other nations, when it’s own country is on its knees.

Can we stop arguing about gender? Women's rights - the most basic ones- and the most basic rights of minorities, and frankly everyone's, are at serious risk. The very concept of democracy is at risk in the country that used to call itself the leader of the free world. Heck, soon we won't have a free world at all.
This argument about who goes to piss where is a bit like arguing about running out of ice cubes when the kitchen is on fire.

Indeed. There's been plenty of research that has found the claims to be false.

Professor Louis Appleby -basically the UK's leading expert in suicide prevention - was so concerned about the lies being spread and the potential risks to vulnerable young people, that he publicly stated:

"The way this issue has been discussed on social media has been insensitive, distressing and dangerous, and goes against guidance on safe reporting of suicide."

And yet TRAs -the people who claim to care most about transgender young people - continue to spread deliberate, and very dangerous, untruths.

It's both awful and ironic that the people who clearly want to protect trans identified people actually make their mental health worse.

I can be angry about more than one thing once.

And - sex, not gender, is pretty clear cut. Males in male spaces, Females in female spaces. Maybe if we all stuck to that we could focus on other things?

100%. How great would Britain feel with a leader as passionately pro Britain as Trump is pro USA?

Some energy, some dynamism - at least he's doing something, Keir does sweet FA

He was so proud of using AI to find potholes? Fuckwit.

America is not great right now.

What sort of message does this latest outrageous move send to the world? When the US is not even a member of the ICC?
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/feb/06/trump-sanction-icc