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To tell her who stole it

217 replies

SuperLiliac · 28/01/2025 22:20

Blended family with teem girls on both sides. They get on OK but not really each other's cup of tea.

My daughter spotted a few of her girly christmas gifts had gone missing. They were in a communal area and disappeared. Deep delve searching for them to no avail.
Few days later, we come to know step daughter has lifted them. (In a bag at other parents house).
My other half doesn't want me to tell my daughter that her step sis has taken them as it will be very difficult for their relationship going forwards.
I'm uncomfortable with covering this up and would rather be honest. Aibu to want to tell the truth?

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valentinka31 · 29/01/2025 00:20

SuperLiliac · 28/01/2025 22:47

I see your point about what the truth would do to their relationship. If I did agree to not say anything and it then later came out that I knew and didn't tell my DD. Hiw would she ever trust me. I dint want to put the compromise on my corner when the wrongdoing is elsewhere.

She's a kid, you are an adult acting in her best interests. Sometimes that means not talking about everuything.

Rachmorr57 · 29/01/2025 00:24

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Choccyscofffy · 29/01/2025 00:25

valentinka31 · 29/01/2025 00:20

She's a kid, you are an adult acting in her best interests. Sometimes that means not talking about everuything.

What’s the alternative, telling her that the things just disappeared? That’s as bad as gaslighting her.

suburberphobe · 29/01/2025 00:33

Can I ask why you moved two girls who clearly don't get on that well into a home together?

Exactly.

All about the parents, never mind the collateral damage to 2 young vulnerable teenagers.

ClairDeLaLune · 29/01/2025 00:41

SD needs to own up to your DD, return the items, apologise, promise this will never happen again, and mean it. Your DD needs to be able to trust you. If you collide in covering this up, she won’t.

WhereYouLeftIt · 29/01/2025 01:04

"My other half doesn't want me to tell my daughter that her step sis has taken them as it will be very difficult for their relationship going forwards."

Your other half is behaving like a fool. Truth will out, either accidentally or deliberately (e.g. SD throwing it in DD's face during an argument). And when it does (when, not if) your daughter's trust in you will be shattered. And she won't think much of your other half either. Frankly, her relationship with you (and even her relationship with your OH) is considerably more important than her relationship with OH's daughter.

Can he really not see that?

It stinks of Disney Dad to me. He wants to be her friend and is unwilling to be a responsible parent. Parenting includes tasks such as pulling your child up for bad behaviour. He has to do this, no matter how much he wants to avoid that confrontation - it's part and parcel of being a parent.

Insist on honesty and a full apology from his daughter.

BobbyBiscuits · 29/01/2025 01:10

Well, she must obviously give them back. And then admit what she did and apologise. It's partly between her and her step sister but that's the only way to move forward. You won't have stealing in the house.
If she refuses to admit it and apologise then you can say she will be finding out from someone else. And the fact you stole with no remorse will incur a worse punishment, so be smart.
It's a shame and needs to be nipped in the bud. I knew I girl who was such a klepto you couldn't leave 50p in a zipped handbag without her delving in given one second's opportunity. Don't let it become a habit.

BettyBardMacDonald · 29/01/2025 01:17

Are you married?

It's so utterly unfair on your daughter to inflict these people into her home and life.

handsomeworm · 29/01/2025 02:17

Assuming that neither child has any form of developmental delay, SD already knows stealing is wrong and DD already knows who stole her stuff.

Stuff needs to be returned immediately (and replaced at SD's expense if damaged in any way) . SD needs to apologise. DD does not need to accept the apology. You need to stop forcing both girls into a fake pseudo-sibling relationship neither of them want. Her time with her dad is her time with her dad. There's no need for you or your daughter to share it.

Couldbysunny · 29/01/2025 02:24

I can see why your DH said not to tell her.. I do have sympathy for his perspective as he wants to keep the peace. Deal with SD without causing a rift between the girls. But I do agree with you overall that your daughters trust should be the most important thing to you. If you replace the items you will actively have to gaslight her to avoid her realising SD took them. And that's not OK. So I'm with you. You should just tell her the truth.

NiftyKoala · 29/01/2025 02:38

MissUltraViolet · 28/01/2025 22:45

This shouldn’t be a secret. She should be made to hand them back and apologise. Give DD a lock for her bedroom door, she needs a safe space and to know you have her back.

Your DH is wrong here, he should be more concerned with why his daughter is stealing from people rather than trying to hide it because of any fall out.

I agree with every word here. Definitely a lock asap.

DancefloorAcrobatics · 29/01/2025 03:11

Your partner is enabling a theft with his attitude of covering it all up.

It needs to be addressed not brushed under the carpet.

Think about the message it sends to both girls.

Therealjudgejudy · 29/01/2025 03:35

You really need to have your daughters back here.

Your partners attitude is a serious red flag btw

justthatreallyagain · 29/01/2025 04:00

Your loyalty is with your daughter - she has a right to know and make decisions for herself about next steps with all the information. Don’t trade her trust for people who clearly don’t care enough about her.

Waterweight · 29/01/2025 04:24

Are you having a laugh ?

You don't tell her who stole it you demand it back with an apology by the person (child) who stole it.

You call the house the stuffs being kept at & you ask her mother (who naturally you have good relationship with to be playing blended family's) to please return the stuff ASAP before the next visit

& You never ever let somebody looking for their stuff just think it's disappeared/accuse somebody they can't prove

This 'blended family' sounds like a nightmare

Waterweight · 29/01/2025 04:28

SuperLiliac · 28/01/2025 22:47

I see your point about what the truth would do to their relationship. If I did agree to not say anything and it then later came out that I knew and didn't tell my DD. Hiw would she ever trust me. I dint want to put the compromise on my corner when the wrongdoing is elsewhere.

Does it matter if she trusts you after you created a blended family with somebody who treats her like an idiot & with other children who steal ?

Surely you could just pull rank & make it clear your relationship with your partner & his daughter is more important then her stuff as that's exactly the set up you've found yourself in ?

meh2025 · 29/01/2025 05:26

SuperLiliac · 28/01/2025 22:20

Blended family with teem girls on both sides. They get on OK but not really each other's cup of tea.

My daughter spotted a few of her girly christmas gifts had gone missing. They were in a communal area and disappeared. Deep delve searching for them to no avail.
Few days later, we come to know step daughter has lifted them. (In a bag at other parents house).
My other half doesn't want me to tell my daughter that her step sis has taken them as it will be very difficult for their relationship going forwards.
I'm uncomfortable with covering this up and would rather be honest. Aibu to want to tell the truth?

So her stepsister is a thief and her father cares more about hassle for himself than he does about your daughter's right to her own belongings.

Can you just take them back and return them without even asking the thief?

Then tell your daughter and put a lock on her door as she deserves to know this person is a thief, it could be a credit card next.

AgentJohnson · 29/01/2025 05:51

So your OH’s solution is for you to keep schtum so that he doesn’t have to actively parent his daughter, hmmm, I’d lose respect for him for that. His request does say a lot about his parenting and I wonder what he’d do if she had done something more serious.

Your DD isn’t stupid anything less than the truth will damage your relationship with her and as her biological parent, that’s your priority, Tell your spineless OH to get your DD’s stuff back and her personal apology to your DD is a must.

Tell your OH that parenting while scared benefits no one. This is an opportunity for him to try and build a better relationship with his DD, which will probably include him having to hear that his actions have negatively impacted her.

EternalFogInMyNotSoSpoltlessMind · 29/01/2025 06:17

ToKittyornottoKitty · 28/01/2025 22:36

Not sure why you are saying lifted, it’s stolen. How are the girls parents dealing with this? Once she has given the stuff back she can apologise so DD will find out then

"Lifted" for stolen is common in the Scottish dialect.

allthemiddlechildrenoftheworld · 29/01/2025 06:18

@SuperLiliac I am pretty certain that your dd realises full well that dsd has, in fact, taken her things! the dsd needs to fess up and bring them back and apologise to dd. dont try to hide the fact that she stole them in the first place but do try to get to the bottom of why!

TheyAreNotAngelsTheyDontCareAtAll · 29/01/2025 06:25

Nanny0gg · 28/01/2025 23:01

Can I ask why you moved two girls who clearly don't get on that well into a home together?

A female wouldn't need to ask this question

GreenSkyes · 29/01/2025 06:51

Surely she knows who's taken it. Things don't just disappear.
Step daughter is old enough to know what she did was wrong. Not dealing with the theft is just giving her validation she can take what she wants. Actions have consequences and if the don't the behaviour won't change.

Nenen · 29/01/2025 06:51

SuperLiliac · 28/01/2025 22:56

Dad asked mum if the items were at her house. Checked room and yes they were.

You are absolutely right to be honest with your daughter, not least because (as you’ve already said yourself) the consequences of not doing so are a complete breakdown in her trust in you when she finds out (which she undoubtedly will). Perhaps if your DP and his ex had emphasised the importance of honesty and the consequences of dishonesty to their DD at an earlier stage, she wouldn’t have stolen from your DD in the first place.

I assume you and/or your DP and DD had already asked his DD whether she knew where your DD’s missing presents were before he asked the girl’s mother to check her room. If so, your DP obviously suspected his DD of lying to you all as well as theft when he asked her mum to do this. Your DP needs to ensure his DD faces up to the consequences of doing both these things - the loss of trust is huge and cannot be overcome by pretending it didn’t happen.

Your DP needs to show his DD some tough love now to ensure she understands this and has to work hard to make amends and rebuild everyone’s trust in her (which is very hard to do and takes a long time). DP’s solution is to cover up his DD’s lying and theft by lying to your DD. This is not the response his own DD needs, let alone helpful to you and your DD.

Trying to understand why she did it and address these issues is admirable but, whatever the reason behind it might be, his DD also needs his help to understand why lying and stealing are unacceptable whatever her motivation was. If he doesn’t do this, the ‘why’ simply becomes an excuse to escape the consequences of her behaviour. How you and your DP deal with this will have a profound influence on his DD’s future - and your DD too.

Many years ago, I was teaching in an independent school and a group of adolescent lads got caught stealing from the school tuckshop. It transpired that this had been going on for a protracted period of time. It started when one or two of them realised if someone distracted the lovely (and very trusting) man who ran the tuck shop, it was easy for them to steal. These were all privileged children who had been brought up to know shoplifting is wrong and they certainly didn’t go without treats. However, the peer pressure to participate in the theft in order to be part of the ‘in-crowd’ was enormous.

The thing I found most telling was the way their parents reacted to being told their son was involved (the school had clear proof with CCTV footage). Some denied their son would ever do such a thing and made every excuse under the sun, even when shown the CCTV. Others, blamed the ringleaders for ‘forcing’ their son to get involved, while others blamed the school for ‘making it too easy for them to help themselves!’ One mother blamed her son’s father for walking out on the family, saying the damage this had done to her son’s mental health was the reason why he’d done this. Almost all of them wanted it swept under the carpet and didn’t want their sons to face any meaningful consequences. Some offered to pay the money back themselves, one even offered to pay considerably more than the cost of the goods, if the school agreed not to suspend their son. I know several of those boys went on to do similar (and worse) things.

However, the parents of one boy took a completely different approach - one I admire enormously - which had a very positive impact on their son. Whilst they acknowledged the effect the peer pressure had on him, they told him he needed to face up to the consequences of the choices he’d made and helped him work on becoming more resilient to any further peer pressure or temptation when faced with a clear moral choice. They asked the headteacher if they and their son could meet with the man who’d been running the tuck-shop to apologise in person (the school had suggested each boy write a letter of apology). Their son listened to the man explaining it was not really about the cost of the goods but how badly his faith in the boys he’d known, liked and trusted for many years had been shattered and the impact this had on him, not just in school but in his personal life too. At this point, the boy broke down and asked him what he could do to make amends and rebuild his trust.

You may not be surprised to learn this boy not only went on to repay every penny for the goods he’d stolen from his own weekly pocket money, he also volunteered to help the man with menial jobs one break time each week for long after the debt was paid. Not only that but he went without tuck for a term and his parents used the money they saved to buy the man a gift. This boy is now a truly lovely young man who went on to do exceptionally well in his career.

The benefits of restorative justice to the perpetrator as well as the victim are well documented and this cannot be achieved without helping someone face up to what they’ve done. With the right support from her father, at 14 years old, your SD should be capable of doing this and work to repair the damage she’s done to her relationships with you all.

VotingForYourself · 29/01/2025 06:54

BeaAndBen · 28/01/2025 22:34

Returned and apologised as a minimum.

Your daughter has a right to feel her stuff is secure at home. I can't imagine "oh look, it magically reappeared" is going to cut it, she's not daft.

Refusing to say what happened to her Christmas presents and how they came to be unboxed will only make her think you and her stepfather are siding with the stepsister who stole from her.

100% this. And if it's a product that's been used at all then it gets replaced

Kattuccino · 29/01/2025 06:55

So your DD lives full time with her step-dad?

And SD lives almost full time with her mum so doesn't see her dad that much?

I can understand why SD is acting out - taking something important belonging to your DD because your DD has something important that used to 'belong to' SD.

I'd tell your DD the truth but encourage her to respond with understanding and compassion. She'll obviously be annoyed but SD doesn't need to be painted as a baddy. She's a teen (not generally known for their impulse control) who is hurting.