To use the men's toilets when the ladies is busy

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A poster on another thread suggests this is unreasonably but I don't see why.

I don't care about convention I just have kidneys that produce large quantities of pee quite quickly. I don't think men care, I don't stand about doing my lipstick in the mirror afterwards. In and out, boom.

Wild horses couldn't drag me in

Well, they're not the same, because the power relationship is asymmetrical.

Disabled toilet the first option, but would use any available toilet if the alternative was soiling myself. I hope I am never with an illness or condition that needed it, but would be understanding of someone who has such a need.

I don't especially care who uses what toilet and would make them all unisex.

However, I have little time for hypocrites or double standards. So if majority of women want to maintain sex segregated toilet facilities they also have to respect the boundaries and not decide they don't matter just because it may be more convenient for them to use the mens facilities than it is to wait.

I doubt men would complain if a woman really needed to use the mens toilet (pregnant etc). Having said that you'd assume other queuing women would just bump her up their line in the first case.

I would use them, unless there was pee on the floor, which is quite common. Don’t think these dirty men would dare do that at home!

Well if you're daft enough to stand cross legged in a queue behind 20 women while the men's toilets stand empty and the show you've paid to see is starting again then more fool you.

I'm going to see a female comedian next week and it is likely that the audience will be 90% women, because it always is. So at the interval, some of the 10 men in the audience will spend the first 5 minutes going to the toilet, then they'll go to the bar and will be back in their seats while most of the 190 women will go and queue outside the Ladies. The women that have any sense will go in the Gents and get back in their seats before the start of the second half.

Interesting you value taking your own feelings into account but not other people’s

Men care

will you change your attitudes now you know that?

Went to a theatre recently where the toilets stated 'cubicles' and cubicles & urinals', not male/female. People were all just using both, I don't think it bothered anyone (there were no children there though).

I have also used unisex toilets in clubs, and in France. I don't mind but would prefer all cubicles if they are shared toilets.

YABU. So many women (rightly) complain that men try and come into the ladies loos. With that in mind, women shouldn’t go into the men’s loos. Just use the disabled loos if you’re so bursting that you can’t wait. I know many people will say that’s an absolutely heinous crime but if there’s no-one waiting and you’re about to piss yourself then go for it. I’ve got an invisible disability and have come out to some ‘looks’ but I don’t care 🤷‍♀️ People will always judge so let them.

I think context matters. Individual cubicles off a corridor that just happen to have labels on them? Not a huge issue. My local has a set of loos like this in addition to urinals. Most guys will use the urinals out of politeness / preference so in practice no-one in the largely female queue for cubicles really bothers which one they use.

Skipping in gaily past a bunch of men using urinals and stopping to touch up your make-up on the way out would be massively uncomfortable for all involved and really isn't on. (Which is one reason I can't stand the places that just slap 'all genders' on their existing loos without reconfiguring them. Accidentally marching into an all-gender loo to be confronted with a bunch of guys stood at urinals trying to piss in peace is really unpleasant all round).

I was actually referring to you calling another poster 'weirdly obedient' because they wouldn't eat lunch in an operating theatre or use their CEOs desk if this wasn't the done thing. The lack of toilet provision for women is a valid issue. The preservation of single sex spaces is (to me) also important. For that reason I don't see the resolution to the first as being an erosion of the second. As a woman who is continent, I am able to act in accordance with my principles and wait to use the toilet designated for my sex, and complain about the lack of facilities afterwards. If you are less fortunate in terms of bladder control then of course that may be more difficult for you.

Sidestepping the question.

I've done it. Would people prefer i piss my pants or just quickly nip in, eyes down and do a quick wee.

No... I don't see the point of waiting when there are perfectly useable facilities sitting empty

So if the system said no toilets outside for women (as used to be the case) would you accept never leaving the house for too long?

I said "if you can't queue for any reason"

I think bladder/bowel issues meaning you can't wait for the loo or problems standing in a queue due to physical problems come under disability. Op is worrying about waiting in a queue specifically, but hasn't said why this is a problem for her.

Because men’s toilets ( gentlemen’s) have urinals in them.Which could lead to someone making an allegation , if they see something they shouldn’t I’ve recently seen a few women recently using the men’s because the ladies were either busy or closed..

It’s unacceptable, and I don’t feel comfortable having women using men’s toilets.

Urinals- men peeing in front of other men.

Twickenham stadium
Wembley stadium

on the nights of big matches. I can find or remember a lot more!

Some men or boys who are using the urinals might be embarrassed if a woman comes into the men's toilet.

I think that they are entitled to privacy in the same way that women are.

You do realise that they're very discreet, don't stand there waving erect penises around and generally mind their own business when having a wee, don't you?

There's an uproar about mothers daring to take their 10 year old boys in the toilets with them, but at the same time, mens toilets are a free for all?

The double-standards are fabulous on this forum.

Most public toilets are smelly and dirty tbf but the second point is valid. Given all the hoo ha about biological men in female toilets it’s probably best women don’t nip into the gents because it’s easier. Bit hypocritical innit.