To use the men's toilets when the ladies is busy

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A poster on another thread suggests this is unreasonably but I don't see why.

Someone who gets it. Thank you @GrumpyPanda

Very unreasonable.

Women have the right to single sex toilets and so should men

The vast majority of men pose no risk in terms of rape/violence etc.

I don't because I'm not rude and entitled.

I have experienced it twice, once in Moscow in the days of the USSR when all the tourists watching the May Day parade near a 'tourist' hotel caused a big queue in the ladies so some French Women went to the gents, the other time on a Saturday Afternoon in UWIST when the place was empty & the woman apologised but the ladies was on the floor below.

Not an issue on either occasion for me

Everyone has a right to privacy, even men (shockingly)

My 15 yo DS would be horrified with a woman coming in while he was at the urinal. Surely he's allowed to have a wee in peace without fear a woman would come in and see something.

Pardon the pun but piss off out of men's toilets.

Men shouldn't be in women's and women shouldn't be in men's. The clue is in the name

Yes it's unreasonable. Unless an actual emergency in which case you won't care where you go.

Campaign for mixted toilets and problem solved.

Until then, it's just simple manners and respect. Women, locked in private cubicles, don't want men in the same toilets where they can be seen washing their hands and redoing their make-up, why would it be acceptable to intrude a place with urinals?

If we want women space, and I do!, then we respect men-space. Easy.

I live in a country where this is perfectly acceptable and standard. But.... I feel uncomfortable if men are using urinals as I feel it's totally unfair to the men . I wouldn't like it if it was reversed.
I think all toilets should be individual cubicles (most are here) and then just use whichever is free

I’m sure I remember a similar post where a poster from here did actually do that and was outraged in the men’s toilets she saw a cock. Fud.

Thanks for that one @taxguru . I'll let my girls wander home at 0200 through the area of London we live in, because "the vast majority" won't harm her.

There’s a difference between using an occupied mens toilet and a completely empty one. Most of the arguments given don’t apply to using an empty mens toilet

But how do you know the toilets will remain empty while you're in the cubicle? If someone comes in, are you just going to wait until it's empty again?

So 8 year old boys (the age you are no longer allowed into the ladies rooms) have no right to a safe, single sex space and privacy?

I’d be fucking livid if a woman barged into the mens room where my DS was using a latrine.

I'd ask someone to stand guard if I were doing this. Then any man who came in would know there was a woman in there.

Only place I do this is in a small local coffee shop, where I am a regular and meet a mixed sex friendship group. Because of the activity we all meet there to do, we do all take it in turns to use whichever is free first. The loos are two entirely separate fully enclosed rooms.

Livid? Wow @CautiousLurker01

So you would be asking men not to use the mens room while you're using it? That's rather entitled.

Just don't use the men's, it's simpler

Exactly! I said the same further upthread about my 15yo. I'd be furious and disgusted.

Yes. 8year old boys are entitled to the privacy afforded by a single sex space, hence you send them into them rather than ignore the sensibilities of women by forcing them to accept his presence in the ladies or use the disabled loos, for which you get slated on here.

It cuts both ways. If women [rightly] want single sex spaces for dignity, safety and privacy, why shouldn’t men and boys - and jewish or muslim (etc) men whose faith and culture requires it?

Yes, I’d be livid if my son taking a pee in a latrine had had his privacy violated by a woman who can’t wait her turn.

I do at football because there's literally 5 cubicles in the home end for females and the away female loos (which are normally much quieter have a camera in them. Tbf with extra garments and a massive woolly hat I probably look like a bloke anyway.

I wouldn't use the mens. I think its extremely important that male people don't use women's facilities and women using male facilities doesn't help efforts to retain this right. For one thing it encourages all the 'well if it's OK for women its OK for men' brigade who don't understand the difference in risk. For another, you just end up being used as an exemplar for 'women are OK with sharing toilets with males so no need to keep them out of the ladies'. The toilet thing is contentious enough as it is without adding in more boundary blurring.

This here.