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Mental mum frenemy causing stress

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Lashserum · 11/01/2025 20:56

I got quite close to a mum of a son’s friend who goes to weekend martial arts school. This martial arts school is opposite a leisure centre. At first all good but then after a few months my son would come out upset by one of her children. It was always minor stuff and the staff didn’t say anything so I shrugged it off - we are not the Molly coddling type of parents. A few more months went by and in the summer holidays she insisted on taking my son and a few others to the holiday camp and taking them for lunch / dinner after. We tried to decline but it wasn’t an option. Myself and a few other mums met up for coffees in the leisure centre often and became closer.
Long story short I found out more about this other boys behaviour and I think he is quite manipulative. We then arranged a meal with the kids October half term but not with the original mum. She found out and went mental. We apologised but said we are adults and allowed to arrange things as we wish. She then blocked one of the other mums who was a bit more vocal however was ok with others - still friendly with all the boys.
Anyway all the boys still do the club and me and other mums share pick up / drop off and coordinate. The original mum is overly friendly with me, I want to keep a distance as she sent me a random ranting message on New Year’s Eve saying she’s upset that she’s never had an offer back for anything she’s done. I tried to make it clear in my reply that we don’t need her to help and no bad feeling but she doesn’t get the message and is still offering to help pick up my son in the mornings before club, my son is fine to do the activity with hers but says he can get a bit angry/ mean / funny sometimes. A few others have now left as they were older. It’s like trying to get through to someone but getting nowhere, but I will have to see her mid week and weekend weekly. Help!

OP posts:
Horses7 · 13/01/2025 23:52

Sorry, but it does all sound a bit mean.

Pippyls67 · 14/01/2025 03:28

Lashserum · 12/01/2025 07:31

Because the behaviour is not normal at all. Like an obsessive boyfriend at times.

Just sounds like she desperately wants her son to be included and have friends. She’s making friends with you to facilitate this. I feel sorry for the child. You have to mix with all sorts in this world and you should very definitely not be excluding the kid because of some seemingly mild misbehaviour. Maybe the kids acting up because he feels left out and like he has to show off to be noticed. He’s just a kid after all.

LocalHer0e · 14/01/2025 04:39

You can't sit with us. She doesn't even go here

Feelingnaff · 14/01/2025 09:00

I hope you actually listen to what the overall opinion is here. I hate when people post and then cannot even partially accept that they could be the one in the wrong!!

Lashserum · 14/01/2025 12:09

Well I have spoken to another dad whose child was relayed to be a nightmare by this woman (who again insisted on taking his son here there annd everywhere far many more times than mine) and I got a very different story. I don’t believe I have done anything wrong. I don’t think you can understand unless seeing this person face to face and observing over time. I believe she may be trying to fit in and encourage friends for her children but some of us just don’t agree with some of the parenting style and I won’t be moving away from that to keep her happy. I have told my
son to be friendly and include her son etc.

OP posts:
DowntonNabby · 14/01/2025 12:16

So not content with gossiping about her with the other mums you're now extending it around the playground to the dads?! What next, the teachers? Nothing you've said in your update makes your treatment of her sound justified.

BrokenHipster · 14/01/2025 12:26

Lashserum · 14/01/2025 12:09

Well I have spoken to another dad whose child was relayed to be a nightmare by this woman (who again insisted on taking his son here there annd everywhere far many more times than mine) and I got a very different story. I don’t believe I have done anything wrong. I don’t think you can understand unless seeing this person face to face and observing over time. I believe she may be trying to fit in and encourage friends for her children but some of us just don’t agree with some of the parenting style and I won’t be moving away from that to keep her happy. I have told my
son to be friendly and include her son etc.

You don't agree with her parenting style but you handed her your kid over and over again?

And now you're gossiping about her to anyone you can find. Ain't you a peach?

MyDeepZebra · 14/01/2025 12:27

DowntonNabby · 14/01/2025 12:16

So not content with gossiping about her with the other mums you're now extending it around the playground to the dads?! What next, the teachers? Nothing you've said in your update makes your treatment of her sound justified.

Edited

Playground?

It's pretty clear from the OP that it's happening at a hobby. MMA.

You do realise sometimes it's Dads that do pick ups and drop offs at hobbies don't you?

And that parents are free to warn each other if something feels off with a woman that keeps trying to latch on and force friendships with a child (and a parent) that makes them feel uncomfortable. OP has indicated she turned down the lifts and holiday club offers but the woman showed up on the doorstep
regardless and that she was making arrangements with the kids for lunches etc and getting them excited before checking with the parents it was ok.

lilacsatin · 14/01/2025 12:28

Lashserum · 12/01/2025 08:57

As if I don’t have her phone number.

How did she send you a random ranting message on NYE?

DowntonNabby · 14/01/2025 12:30

MyDeepZebra · 14/01/2025 12:27

Playground?

It's pretty clear from the OP that it's happening at a hobby. MMA.

You do realise sometimes it's Dads that do pick ups and drop offs at hobbies don't you?

And that parents are free to warn each other if something feels off with a woman that keeps trying to latch on and force friendships with a child (and a parent) that makes them feel uncomfortable. OP has indicated she turned down the lifts and holiday club offers but the woman showed up on the doorstep
regardless and that she was making arrangements with the kids for lunches etc and getting them excited before checking with the parents it was ok.

Edited

Playground, hobby, dads, whatever. It still amounts to the same thing – OP gossiping to other parents about this other mum so now an even wider group can gang up on her. And yes, of course no one is obliged to be friends with someone they don't want to be, but the way this other mum has been used and excluded is cruel.

HauntedPencil · 14/01/2025 12:31

Sorry it does read like you were happy to hang out with her before you got a "better offer" with the others.

At this stage - I think you just need to firmly say that you are going to be doing your own lifts and don't accept any more hospitality from her.

If it was a meet up for all the parents of the activity, of course your free to hang out with whoever you want, but not asking one person is a bit harsh and I can see why she'd feel upset.

MyDeepZebra · 14/01/2025 12:32

DowntonNabby · 14/01/2025 12:30

Playground, hobby, dads, whatever. It still amounts to the same thing – OP gossiping to other parents about this other mum so now an even wider group can gang up on her. And yes, of course no one is obliged to be friends with someone they don't want to be, but the way this other mum has been used and excluded is cruel.

You see gossip...I see parents warning each other when something feels off with a situation that involves their kids.

But I have experienced this sort of woman and it did turn into stalking and harassment. I wasn't the only victim.

NameChangedOfc · 14/01/2025 12:35

Woahtherehoney · 11/01/2025 21:04

“Tried to decline but it wasn’t an option” - OF COURSE it’s an option OP. You don’t just let someone take your kid somewhere if you don’t want them to go.

very odd.

Oh but she's not the Molly coddling type... 🙄

Oneday24 · 14/01/2025 12:43

Why are you still talking about her to other parents? You’ve just said yourself she is trying to fit in and encourage friendships with her DS. Friendships and clicks change quickly and you could find yourself on the receiving end of parents talking about you or even the behaviour of your child and I’m sure you wouldn’t appreciate it. You don’t need to like her parenting style, I’m sure she’s doing her best. It’s nice to be nice and it’s a lonely place for parents whose kids have SEN or behavioural issues which you’ve said he has. If you can’t be nice or don’t want to have any kind of ‘friendship’ with her then at least be polite and stop talking about her on here and to others like she’s some sort of crazed stalker. And yes I do think you’re wrong but I’m sure your gossip with another parent has validated you anyway.

DowntonNabby · 14/01/2025 12:46

MyDeepZebra · 14/01/2025 12:32

You see gossip...I see parents warning each other when something feels off with a situation that involves their kids.

But I have experienced this sort of woman and it did turn into stalking and harassment. I wasn't the only victim.

Really sorry you went through that, it must've been tough. It doesn't sound like OP's warning other parents though, but rather making a concerted effort to ensure this other mum is left with no friends at all.

MajorCarolDanvers · 14/01/2025 12:51

You are being horrible to this woman.

bullying and cliquey.

just because your kids don’t get on doesn’t mean you have shun and exclude someone you were close to

hideawayforever · 14/01/2025 12:52

you sound awful, typical mean girl, excluding her, im glad she stood up to your nasty behaviour.

MyDeepZebra · 14/01/2025 12:53

DowntonNabby · 14/01/2025 12:46

Really sorry you went through that, it must've been tough. It doesn't sound like OP's warning other parents though, but rather making a concerted effort to ensure this other mum is left with no friends at all.

We'll have to agree to disagree.

The man's son was essentially slandered
to the rest of the group by the other mother. The other mother had insisted on taking his child here there and everywhere too. He had a different account to the story the mother was putting out about his child.

It's not OP that's creating the drama here. Again...if you've never experienced this kind of person, you wouldn't necessarily understand.

TopshopCropTop · 14/01/2025 13:05

Lashserum · 14/01/2025 12:09

Well I have spoken to another dad whose child was relayed to be a nightmare by this woman (who again insisted on taking his son here there annd everywhere far many more times than mine) and I got a very different story. I don’t believe I have done anything wrong. I don’t think you can understand unless seeing this person face to face and observing over time. I believe she may be trying to fit in and encourage friends for her children but some of us just don’t agree with some of the parenting style and I won’t be moving away from that to keep her happy. I have told my
son to be friendly and include her son etc.

So you honestly expect us to believe that this woman is a mental nightmare and yet you’re all just letting her take your kids off with her?

You’re either bad people or bad parents or a really shit combo of the 2.

Lashserum · 14/01/2025 13:05

MyDeepZebra · 14/01/2025 12:53

We'll have to agree to disagree.

The man's son was essentially slandered
to the rest of the group by the other mother. The other mother had insisted on taking his child here there and everywhere too. He had a different account to the story the mother was putting out about his child.

It's not OP that's creating the drama here. Again...if you've never experienced this kind of person, you wouldn't necessarily understand.

Yes exactly - at the time I believed her that this other dad’s child was a “nightmare”. SHE offloaded this information to me without me asking when we first met months ago. Clearly it’s a similar story repeating itself. SHE criticised the dad to me and said he encourages violence however he just agrees with discipline. I decided to ask why boy x and y weren’t so close anymore and he revealed similar feeling to what I have now.

also I haven’t ditched her for anyone else - I knew the other mums who she knew too. So then she asked for my number off one of them and tried to get the kids together multiple times.

OP posts:
Lashserum · 14/01/2025 13:08

I always ask other parents in private about any plans etc to be made with kids. This woman does it INFRONT of the children which I now believe to be intentionally manipulating

OP posts:
Oneday24 · 14/01/2025 13:33

Lashserum · 14/01/2025 13:08

I always ask other parents in private about any plans etc to be made with kids. This woman does it INFRONT of the children which I now believe to be intentionally manipulating

Or she knows you’ll all make plans in private and exclude her and her son so does it this way instead. I honestly don’t see that she’s done anything wrong, you and the other ‘mums’ however….

BeLilacSloth · 14/01/2025 13:39

Lashserum · 14/01/2025 12:09

Well I have spoken to another dad whose child was relayed to be a nightmare by this woman (who again insisted on taking his son here there annd everywhere far many more times than mine) and I got a very different story. I don’t believe I have done anything wrong. I don’t think you can understand unless seeing this person face to face and observing over time. I believe she may be trying to fit in and encourage friends for her children but some of us just don’t agree with some of the parenting style and I won’t be moving away from that to keep her happy. I have told my
son to be friendly and include her son etc.

OP accept that you are not coming across well, and please stop bitching about this poor woman, you probably have no idea what she’s going through and this bullying between a group of mums (and now the fucking dads) might send her over the edge. Be kind.

Changethenamey · 14/01/2025 13:51

Wait is this woman just going around kidnapping all your children

tolerable · 14/01/2025 14:12

your an adult- yet rather than tell her a grup of you are shut her out-thats pretty mean

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