To ask if you know anyone personally who got pregnant by lying about contraception?

[Pavemw]

Just that, really. I have an extremely close friend who confided in me at new year that her 11 year old dd wasn’t actually an accident. I have known her half my life and our kids are friends. She was with this man for a short time and the relationship did not last the pregnancy although he does see his dd and has been pretty good to my friend financially.

I can’t get my head around it. This is someone who I go to for advice. She’s always empathetic and kind. I can’t even believe she would have done it and I don’t know why it’s bothering me as much as it is. I don’t know her ex, haven’t seen him in many years. I almost feel she’s lied to me too, which I know is silly. She said she was late 30s, had been told her fertility wasn’t great and had had enough of being messed around by men, so when this next one seemed keen to commit she just went for it. I know she has been treated badly in the past and has always put her heart out there only to be messed about or strung along so I can almost feel how frustrated she would have been but… to do this? I can’t imagine it as I had my two in a happy marriage. Maybe I being horribly judgmental. I can’t reconcile this with who I thought she was all these years. Am I being dramatic?!

Are you going to apologise for your massive cock up? Or are you going to pretend you didn’t mean it like that (we can all read your posts BTW)

So someone else said it about you and you blamed me?

Nope I said women and you implied I meant all women then when crying that I was saying all women when I didn't. You got asked to quote me, you couldn't. You then posted the quote that showed where you implied I had said you think all women lie and then just caught your own tail again.

So someone else said it about you?

Who?

Give it time...

Anyway here’s a few screenshots where you have accused me of not believing rape victims @schmeler - though nice attempt to deflect from your cock up. But you did say boss and by you, I mean you, not me. To be clear seeing as pronouns confuse you so much.

Caught by my own tail 🤣🤣 might make that my next username

You

Going to acknowledge you got confused with the I/You thing? Or are we pretending it never happened?

Yup, there's a lot of men who seem to have missed the basic biology of sex = possible pregnancy lesson. Arseholes.

You going to admit you got this wron @schmeler and I have not indeed been “caught by my own tail”

Why did you think I accused you of disbelieving women otherwise?

So I asked you to provide me with the quote where I said ALL women about you. You have so far failed to do so pretending semantics all the while using deflection as you got caught out lying.

So no I never said that about you, I said women not all women and I ask again for you to quote me and screenshot where I said you think ALL women lie.

You have failed so far, it doesn't exist as i never said it.

Lets debate in private as this isn't fair on others once you;ve shown you cannot show the screenshot.

In my early twenties, I planned to just get pregnant by some bloke who seemed healthy and intelligent and be a single working mother. To put a negative spin on it, I was going to use short-term relationships as a sperm bank with no intention of telling the 'donors'. They never asked about contraception!

I then fell in love with a fuckwit and spent my fertile years having miscarriages. I still think Plan A was the best one and I should've done it. I don't know the causes of the miscarriages, but it's not impossible that the fuckwit and I were incompatible - and the marriage was stressful, so that may have contributed.

You have. At no point did I say you think all women lie.

You accused me because you wanted to deflect from things as normal and again it was a lie because you wanted to discredit me despite me already offering my apologies for what has happened to that person. You wanted to paint a false picture of me as you cannot cope with me disagreeing.

Nah not interested mate.

And I disagree with you. You CONTINUALLY spouted the lie that I disbelieve women.

You also accused me of saying something I didn’t say and REALLY ran with it and you’re still not acknowledging the cock yo

I DIDN’T accuse you though did I. You misread it. How can you possible deny this.

You accused me of saying “You think all women lie” and haven’t acknowledged you got it wrong

So you cannot - thank you for admitting you lied.

You do disbelieve women. You then lied and said I had said ALL women when that is not the case. Women means more than 1 - so anywhere from 2 upwards.

You did say I said ALL women you even posted a photo of your own words saying ALL.

You are now unable to go for the semantic crap again and so played the nah line because you know you cannot screenshot it.

I noticed in this comment you said "I disbelieve women" Yes I said that but at no point did I say you disbelieve ALL women which was the lie you told about me.

You did. You literally posted your own photo of you saying those words. Then I asked who said that and you said me!

So no I didn't say that, I said women not ALL women. You wanted to exaggerate and make it sound worse to get attention.

Give it a rest. You are really bad at this debating lark.

Didn’t lie.

Stop embarrassing yourself. We all can see what you’re doing

When you say “you” do you mean me, or you? Just have to check with your crappy interpretation of pronouns 😂

How does it feel to be cAughT by yOuR Own TaiL 😂😂

As I reminder, here’s where you misread and thought I was accusing you of saying that you think all women lie about rape.

I didn’t ever say that did I? Please stop making a fool of yourself and just admit your cock up

You posted a photo showing you said I had said that. Stop lying more about me now bugger off. You really need to get a hobby or something if you seek so much attention by lying about others on here.

For saying that rape victims often have evidence and some are bruised after being raped? What is bad about that? It is true.

More fabrication of mental health.

What is bad is pretending someone is mental and using mental health as an insult. So pack it in.