To ask if you know anyone personally who got pregnant by lying about contraception?

[Pavemw]

Just that, really. I have an extremely close friend who confided in me at new year that her 11 year old dd wasn’t actually an accident. I have known her half my life and our kids are friends. She was with this man for a short time and the relationship did not last the pregnancy although he does see his dd and has been pretty good to my friend financially.

I can’t get my head around it. This is someone who I go to for advice. She’s always empathetic and kind. I can’t even believe she would have done it and I don’t know why it’s bothering me as much as it is. I don’t know her ex, haven’t seen him in many years. I almost feel she’s lied to me too, which I know is silly. She said she was late 30s, had been told her fertility wasn’t great and had had enough of being messed around by men, so when this next one seemed keen to commit she just went for it. I know she has been treated badly in the past and has always put her heart out there only to be messed about or strung along so I can almost feel how frustrated she would have been but… to do this? I can’t imagine it as I had my two in a happy marriage. Maybe I being horribly judgmental. I can’t reconcile this with who I thought she was all these years. Am I being dramatic?!

You said there will always be bruising or evidence of force. Wrong.

Also stop misquoting me

Nope I do not have wandering womb, it doesn't exist. Your misogyny is showing now.

I'm not losing my shit at all, I am not the one resorting to name calling and fabricating mental health conditions that do not exist, alcohol or drugs.

I asked you to copy where I said ALL women. You said I said ALL women. At no point did I. I said you do not believe women. Women is a plural noun meaning more than 1. That could be 2 women you do not believe or more. I asked how many, you failed to answer. If you do not know what a plural is or relates to then learn some basic 5 year old grammar.

And now using toddler language. Really? Yes I would be embarrassed if I was you.

I asked you to copy where I said ALL women. You said I said ALL women. At no point did I

JFC

I KNOW YOU DIDNT. I NEVER accused you of such things. YOU misread my post and are now oddly pretending you didn’t.

Show me where I made this accusation please.

Its like talking to a partially stupid toddler this

The word in there 'some' doesn't mean always. Sorry to teach you some basic vocabulary.

It says in some rapes there will be bruising NOT always. You lied.

@schmeler becaue it clearly needs spelling out, here is the post where you got confused. Do you see how I did not claim you think all women are lying. I was merely stating YOU accused ME of that. The grey bit is my post

I never said all rapes are provable or that every victim has evidence.

A bit more reading wouldn't go amiss.

A bit more reading wouldn't go amiss.

Oh the irony!

Still waiting on that apology. Or even just an acknowledgment you misread my post

PS you haven’t quoted yourself. Did you think you had?

And there you clearly accused me of saying ALL women lie.

You said
"apparently I think ALL women lie"

Which I do not think that of you and never once said you thought ALL women lie. So my point was correct. I have not once accusing you of saying you think ALL women lie.

You just caught your own tail! How funny!

You fucked up! You were the one lying. Now playing DARVO as a last resort.

Nope I didn't think I had.

Whatever!!

Meaning you ignored that word and substituted it for one that was more dramatic that had different meaning as you seem to do frequently.

Oh fucking hell this is hilarious

You said
"apparently I think ALL women lie"

Yes. I was referring to ME. Not YOU. Which is why I said “I”. “I” refers to oneself, not another person. If I was accusing YOU of have said “YOU think all women lie”.

Im mortified for you. Fucking HILARIOUS

I’m screen grabbing all this for when I need a good laugh

You can’t even understand the difference between “I” and “You” so I wouldn’t be talking about understanding language love

Oh I really didnt

Wby did you think “I” was referring to you? Are you that narcissistic you think everyone is meaning you?

You were implying I had said that about you. I hadn't. You lied.

Jesus will ye give it a rest? The thread has been completely hijacked by ye bickering!

And you are the one who doesn;t even understand that 'you' implied that 'I' had said it about 'you'!

or else if you had said it then that meant at some point tonight you had said it and I was quoting you.

Which is it? You implying I said it or did you say it and are suggesting I quoted you?

@schmeler again because you need it spelled out here was my post.

To make things easy. As clearly you need it, pretend you’re reading it like you’re me. So “I” refers to ShesNotACowShesAFox not schmeler.

Do you get it yet? I mean a 3yo would get it so I hope you would

ill wait for the apology

You really are.

Mental health fabrication
Drug fabrication
Drink fabrication
Now DARVO.

Oh look, turning it around. That not what you’ve claimed, stop the gaslighting

You did. Shall I show you the post?

Er no

you have wanged on for 2 pages saying I accused you of saying all women lie. I hadn’t. Ow you’re claiming you didn’t say that? What a joke you are

I was going to bed, but anyway.

No, you never said all rapes were provable, or that every woman had evidence. Not explicitly anyway.

But when you told me I was wrong for saying some rapes have no evidence, you implied that they all do.
Which isn't true. There is no evidence that I was raped. There never has been. It's always been my word against his. Some people believe me. Many don't.