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Gov refuses home office investigation into historic child sex abuse in Oldham

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Perzival · 01/01/2025 23:45

I've just read on x that Jess Phillips has formally declined Oldham council's request for the HO to investigate the grooming gangs in Oldham. Why on Earth would they do this? Apparently JP says it should be a local investigation? Clearly that is a conflict of interests and if the council are asking for help they should?

The only link I can find other than x is GB news (apologies).

https://www.gbnews.com/news/oldham-grooming-gangs-labour-government-inquiry-abuse-scandal

Labour REJECTS Oldham's call for Government inquiry into grooming gangs scandal

Safeguarding Minister Jess Phillips has said Oldham should 'take its own approach' instead

https://www.gbnews.com/news/oldham-grooming-gangs-labour-government-inquiry-abuse-scandal

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ShesNotACowShesAFox · 01/01/2025 23:49

What a shame the Minister for safeguarding WAG won’t advocate for their protection. Phillips is a fucking moron (and very rude, I’ve met her) so I’ve no idea why I’m surprised

Perzival · 01/01/2025 23:59

I posted in hope somebody would tell me I was wrong and not to believe everything you see online etc.

I'm really shocked especially when the council have requested it.

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Atissues · 01/01/2025 23:59

It’s disgraceful that Jess Phillips won’t investigate.

I think she should investigate all the child rape gangs as many towns were affected. Do we know whether the gang raping of children is still going on?

I am impressed that GB news have covered this issue as I can’t see this on other media outlets. Why are the others not covering it? So many girls were abused it is a national scandal, her refusal to investigate should be headline news.

Atissues · 02/01/2025 00:03

‘’I spoke with Andrew Marr about the failure of the current Government to tackle grooming gangs.
It's been a year since the publication of the independent inquiry into child sexual abuse and not a single recommendation has been implemented.’’

This extract is from JessPhillips.net last year (pre election).

https://jessphillips.net/node/27

Government failure to tackle grooming gangs | Jess Phillips - Labour MP for Birmingham Yardley

I spoke with Andrew Marr about the failure of the current Government to tackle grooming gangs.It's been a year since the publication of the independent inquiry into child sexual abuse and not a single recommendation has been implemented.Listen to more...

https://jessphillips.net/node/27

ShesNotACowShesAFox · 02/01/2025 00:03

Atissues · 01/01/2025 23:59

It’s disgraceful that Jess Phillips won’t investigate.

I think she should investigate all the child rape gangs as many towns were affected. Do we know whether the gang raping of children is still going on?

I am impressed that GB news have covered this issue as I can’t see this on other media outlets. Why are the others not covering it? So many girls were abused it is a national scandal, her refusal to investigate should be headline news.

Looking at the story it seems a letter to Oldham Council from Phillips may have been flown under the radar and GB News have seen it and made a feature out of it. Possibly a leak from the local authority to an outlet they know will cover it.

Atissues · 02/01/2025 00:13

If you click on her website and click the link (listen more) it takes you to her fb page. On the 17th Jan 24 she was criticising the previous gov for not implementing the recommendations.

What changed in the last 12 months? Also @ShesNotACowShesAFox why would only GB news cover it? Surely every media would want to publish this if it was leaked to them? Thousands of girls were raped. But maybe other news outlets haven’t caught up yet.

username299 · 02/01/2025 00:15

The First Lady has waded in and thinks Philips should be imprisoned.

ShesNotACowShesAFox · 02/01/2025 00:15

Atissues · 02/01/2025 00:13

If you click on her website and click the link (listen more) it takes you to her fb page. On the 17th Jan 24 she was criticising the previous gov for not implementing the recommendations.

What changed in the last 12 months? Also @ShesNotACowShesAFox why would only GB news cover it? Surely every media would want to publish this if it was leaked to them? Thousands of girls were raped. But maybe other news outlets haven’t caught up yet.

It could be that - if it’s not proactive news via a press release then it relies on someone showing a journalist something.

But let’s not be surprised when politicians behave like hypocrites - they’re all very “Justice for victims” during an election but suddenly become experts at the fob off when they’re in the cabinet

FiloPasty · 02/01/2025 00:22

I read this on insta earlier and wondered if it was linked to other news. Just appalling.

Gov refuses home office investigation into historic child sex abuse in Oldham
Atissues · 02/01/2025 00:24

@username299 Sorry who has waded in?

BIossomtoes · 02/01/2025 00:25

username299 · 02/01/2025 00:15

The First Lady has waded in and thinks Philips should be imprisoned.

Who’s the First Lady? I didn’t know we had one of those.

username299 · 02/01/2025 00:25

Atissues · 02/01/2025 00:24

@username299 Sorry who has waded in?

Musk.

ShesNotACowShesAFox · 02/01/2025 00:27

FiloPasty · 02/01/2025 00:22

I read this on insta earlier and wondered if it was linked to other news. Just appalling.

She’s the Shadow Secretary for the Home Office. Interesting

ShesNotACowShesAFox · 02/01/2025 00:30

This is supposedly the letter to Oldham Council. It’s a politicians not especially clever way of saying “Not my problem mate”. Disgraceful

Gov refuses home office investigation into historic child sex abuse in Oldham
BIossomtoes · 02/01/2025 00:30

GB News is the only outlet carrying this. Odd, isn’t it?

Sunworshiper · 02/01/2025 00:35

Sorry forgot to add image

Gov refuses home office investigation into historic child sex abuse in Oldham
Atissues · 02/01/2025 00:40

Thanks for the links makes more sense now.

On the Elon link is that article showing a social media post liked by Naz Shah real? Wtf?

dothedanceofjoy · 02/01/2025 00:42

username299 · 02/01/2025 00:25

Musk.

And a good thing he is, too. His reach is apparently needed as our own cowardly, agenda-driven government and media would very much like to keep this quiet. "Waded in" indeed. If only someone, anyone, everyone who became aware - and there were a lot of them, a lot of them who knew and ran cover for the rapists - had "waded in" long before now.

"Grooming" gangs softpedals what these monsters did. The details are absolutely horrific.

username299 · 02/01/2025 00:51

dothedanceofjoy · 02/01/2025 00:42

And a good thing he is, too. His reach is apparently needed as our own cowardly, agenda-driven government and media would very much like to keep this quiet. "Waded in" indeed. If only someone, anyone, everyone who became aware - and there were a lot of them, a lot of them who knew and ran cover for the rapists - had "waded in" long before now.

"Grooming" gangs softpedals what these monsters did. The details are absolutely horrific.

Who else do you think should be interfering in British politics?

OneAmberFinch · 02/01/2025 00:52

This has been going absolutely viral on twitter for the last day or so. Not just Oldham but the whole scandal.

There are screenshots of court documents of some of the cases and I am not normally a trigger warnings person but they are honestly horrific. "Grooming" is not the right word for it.

CandyLeBonBon · 02/01/2025 00:52

Those poor poor girls. Utterly horrific.

I'm so angry.

dothedanceofjoy · 02/01/2025 00:56

username299 · 02/01/2025 00:51

Who else do you think should be interfering in British politics?

Your phrasing is completely disingenuous. Do you mean who do I think should be permitted to express an opinion on social media about an outrageous years-long institutional failure to deal with the most depraved criminal behaviour imaginable? The answer to that is anyone who damn well wants to.

Atissues · 02/01/2025 00:56

@dothedanceofjoy

I’ve just read on X via the links. Surely the government should be investigating?

Some posters on X are saying girls are still being raped. If this is true then MPs etc should be sacked. I agree it is good that the issue is receiving the attention it deserves.

Why is Musk highlighting child rape a bad thing? A high profile man highlighting the fact our government is not investigating the rape of children is surely a good thing? It’s important that men fight against vawg too.

I was aware of the rape gangs years ago. I’m not sure why the press use grooming (it’s a bit like using the term child porn instead of child sexual abuse images). It makes it sound less disgusting.

OneAmberFinch · 02/01/2025 00:57

https://x.com/jk_rowling/status/1874609315690258777

"The details emerging about what the rape gangs (why call them 'grooming' gangs? It's like calling those who stab people to death 'knife owners') did to girls in Rotherham are downright horrific. The allegations of possible police corruption in the case are almost beyond belief."

The details are so horrible, I knew and was really sad about these gangs already but the press made it sound like "poor teenage girls being lured into having sex by getting paid in vapes". That's awful in itself but the sheer inhuman violence coming out in these court screenshots that are all getting gathered up - oh my god. I had no idea.

x.com

https://x.com/jk_rowling/status/1874609315690258777

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