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To think this mother should be ashamed of herself

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2boyzNosleep · 11/12/2024 19:57

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cly2zq1yl0ko

17yr old girl & 18 yr old boy hook up on holiday in Dubai. I believe they may have met over there. The girls mother finds messages on the girls phone when they return to the UK. The mother reports the guy to Dubai police. He gets arrested as sex with anyone under 18yrs is illegal in Dubai. He has now been sentenced to 1 year in prison.

I haven't looked into it much, as far as I can tell it was consensual, a charity called Detained in Dubai have been trying to help (legally I think).

Am I alone in thinking how bloody spiteful the mother is?!? The girl is 17 years old and I think in another report saw that she turned 18 shortly after returning.

Marcus Fakana in school uniform

Marcus Fakana: Briton, 18, sentenced over Dubai sex with girl, 17

Marcus Fakana has been sentenced for a year over the relationship, a campaign group in Dubai says.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cly2zq1yl0ko

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BoobyDazzler · 11/12/2024 19:58

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Weefreetiffany · 11/12/2024 19:58

Yeah the poor boy, desperately unfair on him

TheLightSideOfTheMoon · 11/12/2024 19:59

He broke the law.

This is what happens when you break the law.

We can’t call people who report sexual crimes ‘spiteful’. We don’t know the details.

YIP · 11/12/2024 20:00

I agree. Spiteful with a capita S. That poor lad and his parents.

MaggieBsBoat · 11/12/2024 20:00

What an evil thing for her to do.
No doubt her relationship with her daughter is permanently ruined and she should have no relationship with herself. Disgusting.

That poor boy and all the ramifications of a year in prison in the Middle East for him and his family. Tragic.

Dearg · 11/12/2024 20:02

It is truly a terrible thing to do. It seems it was consensual, so if the young man is guilty, so is her daughter.
Extremely spiteful. And who benefits from this?

SusieSussex · 11/12/2024 20:03

Yanbu. I thought the same.

NotOneOfTheInCrowd · 11/12/2024 20:03

On the face of it she is clearly a bitch. But.

How did she know they’d had sex? Assuming that she wasn’t an active observer, the daughter had to have told her.

Likely the daughter knows what kind of person she is, this won’t have been the first time she’s acted like this, the daughter still told her? Why?

I’m not sure the daughter is all that innocent here either.

SusieSussex · 11/12/2024 20:04

TheLightSideOfTheMoon · 11/12/2024 19:59

He broke the law.

This is what happens when you break the law.

We can’t call people who report sexual crimes ‘spiteful’. We don’t know the details.

He's an 18 year old lad who had sex with a kid of a very similar age. Her mother is a nasty piece of work.

SusieSussex · 11/12/2024 20:07

NotOneOfTheInCrowd · 11/12/2024 20:03

On the face of it she is clearly a bitch. But.

How did she know they’d had sex? Assuming that she wasn’t an active observer, the daughter had to have told her.

Likely the daughter knows what kind of person she is, this won’t have been the first time she’s acted like this, the daughter still told her? Why?

I’m not sure the daughter is all that innocent here either.

She saw pictures and chats on the girls phone.

SometimesCalmPerson · 11/12/2024 20:07

She’s a vindictive bitch who has ruined a life for no reason. I hope life bites her back.

MissyB1 · 11/12/2024 20:08

SusieSussex · 11/12/2024 20:07

She saw pictures and chats on the girls phone.

Snooping probably. What a piece of work!

Pinkissmart · 11/12/2024 20:09

TheLightSideOfTheMoon · 11/12/2024 19:59

He broke the law.

This is what happens when you break the law.

We can’t call people who report sexual crimes ‘spiteful’. We don’t know the details.

For heavens sake

2boyzNosleep · 11/12/2024 20:09

TheLightSideOfTheMoon · 11/12/2024 19:59

He broke the law.

This is what happens when you break the law.

We can’t call people who report sexual crimes ‘spiteful’. We don’t know the details.

Did you read the article?!????

This isn't something that he would have known, he was on a family holiday with his parents. At 18, I the thought of researching legal age limits of the country wouldn't cross my mind, especially if I hooked up with a person from the UK that was pretty much the same age.

It's not like the typical group of friends going wild on holiday with complete disregard to the laws of the country.

We don't know all the details but I think the government were having 'talks' with Dubai, as they are both UK citizens and sex legal here at 16yrs (apologies if I sound vague, I read about it a month or so ago when it first happened). I doubt he would have(crap) support from them or the charity of he were a rapist.

Also, the mum/family of the girl must have been comfortable for her to be left on her own at some point, or she sneaked off.

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UndeniablyGenX · 11/12/2024 20:10

Out of interest, would people's responses be the same if this had happened in the UK and he was 16, she was 15?

Fififafa · 11/12/2024 20:11

Considering they are both British citizens or at least both live here, plus the fact that an 18yr old had consensual sex with a 17yr old, would be perfectly legal thing to do here. For the girl’s mother to then get the boy in trouble with the authorities in Dubai just smacks of vindictiveness and dare I say possibly a tinge of racism.

Mumofteenandtween · 11/12/2024 20:12

UndeniablyGenX · 11/12/2024 20:10

Out of interest, would people's responses be the same if this had happened in the UK and he was 16, she was 15?

Yes. I do not think that a French boy (age 16) who had sex with a French girl (age 15) belongs in a British prison.

Fififafa · 11/12/2024 20:13

SometimesCalmPerson · 11/12/2024 20:07

She’s a vindictive bitch who has ruined a life for no reason. I hope life bites her back.

Exactly

BoobyDazzler · 11/12/2024 20:14

UndeniablyGenX · 11/12/2024 20:10

Out of interest, would people's responses be the same if this had happened in the UK and he was 16, she was 15?

Nothing. Normal adolescent behaviour.

Nelly91 · 11/12/2024 20:15

Evil woman. Truly vicious actions.

coxesorangepippin · 11/12/2024 20:15

Totally agree.

It's because he's black.

Everything is because he's black.

SusieSussex · 11/12/2024 20:15

UndeniablyGenX · 11/12/2024 20:10

Out of interest, would people's responses be the same if this had happened in the UK and he was 16, she was 15?

Yes. A 16 year old wouldn't be jailed for having sex with a 15 year old girl anyway

Heyyoupleasekeepgoing · 11/12/2024 20:17

TheLightSideOfTheMoon · 11/12/2024 19:59

He broke the law.

This is what happens when you break the law.

We can’t call people who report sexual crimes ‘spiteful’. We don’t know the details.

It wasn’t against the law in the country she called to report it from! After she had got home herself! The country her and her daughter live in and where her daughter was in at the time he was reported. Both the teenagers have said it was consensual so that’s the key detail you would think.

2boyzNosleep · 11/12/2024 20:17

UndeniablyGenX · 11/12/2024 20:10

Out of interest, would people's responses be the same if this had happened in the UK and he was 16, she was 15?

I would still think the same. I don't agree with underage sex but I'm not stupid enough to think it doesn't happen. Even in the UK, a willing15 & 16 yr oldaren't going to warrant a prosecution.

Again, very similar ages and if she had a birthday shortly after the holiday, then it's not really a big deal.

I mean, at what point were they alone together for them to have sex? Why is the mum snooping in a 17yr olds phone?

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LittleFloatingGhost · 11/12/2024 20:17

If the girl had been in Dubai when her mum reported it, would she have been arrested too?

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