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2boyzNosleep · 2024-12-11T19:57:42+00:00

[[https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cly2zq1yl0ko https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cly2zq1yl0ko]] 17yr old girl & 18 yr old boy hook up on holiday in Dubai. I believe they may have met over there. The girls mother finds messages on the girls phone when they return to the UK. The mother reports the guy to Dubai police. He gets arrested as sex with anyone under 18yrs is illegal in Dubai. He has now been sentenced to 1 year in prison. I haven't looked into it much, as far as I can tell it was consensual, a charity called Detained in Dubai have been trying to help (legally I think). Am I alone in thinking how bloody spiteful the mother is?!? The girl is 17 years old and I think in another report saw that she turned 18 shortly after returning.

fairydustt · 30/12/2024 20:52

Walkden · 30/12/2024 20:47

"Do you also think all those other people should go to jail because they technically committed a crime?"

It's not up to me whether they should go to jail and I am not familiar with their cases but I gather some of them were arrested due to suspected breaches of the law but not subsequently prosecuted.

However, I am not surprised that people drinking alcohol, taking drugs traces of which remain in systems for weeks, "accidentally" brushing against a man's hip , defaming citizens online then being stupid enough to go back to that country for holiday would end up getting arrested.

If you visit another country then you must respect their laws, even ones you consider "backwards/ unfair/ unjust/ different to our own"

All of the above examples are implied criticisms of the laws of a sovereign nation. When we represent ourselves to be above those laws because we are from a different country then I do believe that is arrogant...

If it’s arrogant to think that a young boy shouldn’t go to prison for having sex with a girl a month younger than him, then I guess I’m arrogant, and I’m okay with that.

TwistedWonder · 30/12/2024 20:55

fairydustt · 30/12/2024 20:52

If it’s arrogant to think that a young boy shouldn’t go to prison for having sex with a girl a month younger than him, then I guess I’m arrogant, and I’m okay with that.

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And the only reason he was arrested is because the girls vindictive wicked mother made up a rape allegation against him after her daughter was back in the UK

The arrogant one here is the mother

coldcallerbaiter · 30/12/2024 21:05

Teacherprebaby · 11/12/2024 21:33

So you think two gay men sharing a room in a UAE country should be against the law? Because it is. So that means it's justified? Get a brain cell.

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From what I understand these laws are mainly applied to Muslims. So I was wondering if the girl was Muslim. I know there is an underage element too here but I still think they aren’t anywhere near as interested if you aren’t a Muslim. My sense is also respected Muslim residents probably do not get prosecuted too. I remember being in Dubai and speaking to someone that told me this. Prosecutions are of foreigners, particularly workers, like Muslim Indonesians, they concentrate more on
the Muslim foreigners. The cases are all in small print in the newspaper, I read them.

Tons of foreigner cases a week.

TwistedWonder · 30/12/2024 21:06

coldcallerbaiter · 30/12/2024 21:05

From what I understand these laws are mainly applied to Muslims. So I was wondering if the girl was Muslim. I know there is an underage element too here but I still think they aren’t anywhere near as interested if you aren’t a Muslim. My sense is also respected Muslim residents probably do not get prosecuted too. I remember being in Dubai and speaking to someone that told me this. Prosecutions are of foreigners, particularly workers, like Muslim Indonesians, they concentrate more on
the Muslim foreigners. The cases are all in small print in the newspaper, I read them.

Tons of foreigner cases a week.

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No she’s a Sikh - family are British Indian

Walkden · 30/12/2024 21:06

"If it’s arrogant to think that a young boy shouldn’t go to prison for having sex with a girl a month younger than him, then I guess I’m arrogant, and I’m okay with that."

I'm ok with that too, because what either of us thinks does not matter.

What happened between that boy and girl happened in Dubai and only they get to decide what matters. If they subsequently decide to release him early ( or not) that is also up to you them.

Empressofall · 30/12/2024 21:08

Yep. She went nuclear and has ruined this boy's life. She disgusts me.

ThatRareUmberJoker · 30/12/2024 21:16

Walkden · 30/12/2024 19:12

It’s interesting you are quick to respond to others, but ignore when it is pointed out your understanding of UK law is not correct."

Here what is relevant is not UK law - and for all we know the sentence has also been mitigated due to the rapists " misunderstanding"

You're loving it aren't you are you her mother?

fairydustt · 30/12/2024 21:17

Walkden · 30/12/2024 21:06

"If it’s arrogant to think that a young boy shouldn’t go to prison for having sex with a girl a month younger than him, then I guess I’m arrogant, and I’m okay with that."

I'm ok with that too, because what either of us thinks does not matter.

What happened between that boy and girl happened in Dubai and only they get to decide what matters. If they subsequently decide to release him early ( or not) that is also up to you them.

I actually believe what people think does matter

Walkden · 30/12/2024 21:19

"what people think does matter"

I agree with you - if those people are from dubai!

IkeaJesusChrist · 30/12/2024 21:22

It won't be long until the girl's family details are leaked, the mother is awful.

TwistedWonder · 30/12/2024 21:22

IkeaJesusChrist · 30/12/2024 21:22

It won't be long until the girl's family details are leaked, the mother is awful.

They’re already widely available on X

Walkden · 30/12/2024 21:23

"You're loving it aren't you are you her mother?"

No I feel sorry for the lad ; he or his parents should have educated themselves on the laws there and if he is lucky he will be released early.

As I said earlier I am simply respecting the right of societies to set and enforce their own laws.

IkeaJesusChrist · 30/12/2024 21:23

TwistedWonder · 30/12/2024 21:22

They’re already widely available on X

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Interesting, I'm not on X but will have a look.

fairydustt · 30/12/2024 21:27

Walkden · 30/12/2024 21:19

"what people think does matter"

I agree with you - if those people are from dubai!

Remember that American boy Otto Warmbier who was arrested in North Korea and ultimately died for allegedly ripping down a poster, whether he actually did it or not he did not deserve what happened to him and I do not believe that only North Korean citizens should have the right to that opinion, if you do then you need to get a grip.

DooDooDooDooDooDooDooDoo · 30/12/2024 21:27

Interesting, I'm not on X but will have a look.

It's all over Facebook now. I imagine it will be everywhere by the morning.

IkeaJesusChrist · 30/12/2024 21:29

DooDooDooDooDooDooDooDoo · 30/12/2024 21:27

Interesting, I'm not on X but will have a look.

It's all over Facebook now. I imagine it will be everywhere by the morning.

Good, i expect someone in the family has blabbed.

Walkden · 30/12/2024 21:31

fairydustt · 30/12/2024 21:27

Remember that American boy Otto Warmbier who was arrested in North Korea and ultimately died for allegedly ripping down a poster, whether he actually did it or not he did not deserve what happened to him and I do not believe that only North Korean citizens should have the right to that opinion, if you do then you need to get a grip.

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"whether he actually did it or not he did not deserve what happened to him and I do not believe that only North Korean citizens should have the right to that opinion, if you do then you need to get a grip."

I don't remember that boy and You can have whatever opinion you like, as can I, but only north Koreans get a say on how their own laws are enforced.

fairydustt · 30/12/2024 21:33

Walkden · 30/12/2024 21:31

"whether he actually did it or not he did not deserve what happened to him and I do not believe that only North Korean citizens should have the right to that opinion, if you do then you need to get a grip."

I don't remember that boy and You can have whatever opinion you like, as can I, but only north Koreans get a say on how their own laws are enforced.

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You clearly don’t know much about North Korea if you think ‘only North Koreans get a say on how their own laws are enforced’ 🤣🤣

TwistedWonder · 30/12/2024 21:34

fairydustt · 30/12/2024 21:33

You clearly don’t know much about North Korea if you think ‘only North Koreans get a say on how their own laws are enforced’ 🤣🤣

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Indeed. Only 1 North Korean gets a say 🤣

Walkden · 30/12/2024 21:39

"Indeed. Only 1 North Korean gets a say"

I doubt he makes every single decision. Even Hitler and Mussolini had to delegate some things....

Dictatorships tend not to last. Only north Koreans can permanently change their system of governance. The repeated failed meddling in Afghanistan and the middle east is evidence of that.

JMSA · 30/12/2024 23:13

I feel for the boy, and also for the young lass. Her life will be made a misery because of her mother's actions.

coolkatt · 31/12/2024 00:06

Mum of two girls and this is terrible. That poor boy and his family. Absolutely no need for this to have been reported, that guy will be fucked up forever for doing what millions of other have done before him. had a holiday romance.
The mother of this girl should be ashamed. She's wrecked a young man's life cos she snipped on her daughter's phone and didn't like what she has found - that her daughter is grown up and doing grown up
Stuff. Or is it cos he is black? I hope he gets home soon and the group helping him succeed and get him out.

MoonKiss · 07/07/2025 09:15

www.theguardian.com/world/2025/jul/07/dubai-releases-british-teenager-marcus-fakana-after-sheikhs-pardon

GiraffesAtThePark · 07/07/2025 09:26

I see someone else has already shared the story. Glad to hear he didn’t serve the full sentence. Still so horrible and unnecessary. I hope he’s able to get on with his life

Nantescalling · 07/07/2025 15:37

fairydustt · 30/12/2024 16:34

I don’t care that he broke the law, how can anyone seriously think being sent to prison is justified and a sensible punishment just because he technically broke the law of a different country, lots of places have laws that get broken all the time but they use their common sense to know what is and what isn’t worth sending someone to prison for. What is actually the point in the UAE sending this boy to prison? What are they hoping to achieve from this punishment, do they think he’ll come out in a years time a better person who feels remorse for what he’s done? Or maybe instead he’ll come out a shell of his former self and probably quite bitter. Although I suppose the UAE only cares about punishment and not reformation. Anyway, our government should have done more to help this boy. He will come back to this country one day a shell of his former self and probably with mental health problems. He was silly to do this in somewhere like Dubai, probably without fully knowing/understanding crime and punishment in Dubai, but he’s 18 years old, what 18 year old hasn’t done something a bit silly or something without engaging their brain before? And as for the mother who dobbed him in, what a spiteful bitch! Don’t know how she can live with herself

What is this 'technically broke the law' it's either broke the law or didn't break the law. Just because we don't necessarily agree with the law is quite irrelevant.