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AIBU to feel completely distressed by the viral video of the aftermath of onlyfans worker Lily P 'sleeping with' 100 men?

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MumOfOneAllAlone · 11/12/2024 09:48

I've tried to word this carefully.

Lily, an onlyfans star, aged 20something I'm guessing, slept with 100 men in one go, as part of a documentary.

Following this, she's on camera crying. She says her eyes hurt as some of the men ejaculated in them, despite her saying no.

My heart is broken for this girl. Im a feminist but I've never thought of sex work as being empowering?

Surely, the empowerment of sex work has failed this poor girl? And surely the 100 men who agreed to do this are criminals???

I'm so angry. You could see in the video that Lily is realising what a mistake this was and is very traumatised.

Anyway, didn't see a thread on this so thought I'd post. My heart goes out to her, and my brain feels very angry at those who failed to protect her.

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LookingForAHandHold · 11/12/2024 20:24

@WasThatACorner people like sex.

WasThatACorner · 11/12/2024 20:26

SaMMaxis170 · 11/12/2024 20:04

but if women want control and full abilities to do as they choose then they also have to consider the risks of what they choose to do

"If women full abilities to do as they choose...."

What is your argument here? All women shouldn't have control if some women make poor decisions?

I could argue that if some men start wars then men shouldn't be allowed in government.

Your argument is misogynistic nonsense.

WasThatACorner · 11/12/2024 20:27

LookingForAHandHold · 11/12/2024 20:24

@WasThatACorner people like sex.

Yeah. I do too. Love it.

What's your point?

LookingForAHandHold · 11/12/2024 20:27

@WasThatACorner what's your point?

You asked why 36k people are into this - because they are.

NewBootsWeather · 11/12/2024 20:28

WasThatACorner · 11/12/2024 20:13

What is your point here? You've not really articulated it.

The 18 year old virgins that another person chooses to film while having sex with have been discussed repeatedly.

I think you brought them up a number of times.

You still haven't engaged with a conversation about the wider causes.

Are you being thick? She was involved in the 18 year old virgins?

InterIgnis · 11/12/2024 20:28

WasThatACorner · 11/12/2024 19:53

Again, this avoids looking at the bigger picture. At least 36101 people participated in this if we include her subscribers.

It isn't infantilizing anyone to say "this doesn't feel ok to me and I want to understand what is happening" the conversation is bigger than one person which seems to be where many people are struggling.

I didn’t say that infantilizing. I said it was infantilizing, and victimizing, to use trauma/potential regret to strip adult individuals of liberty under the guise of saving them from themselves.

Leavesandacorns · 11/12/2024 20:29

NewBootsWeather · 11/12/2024 11:45

@Leavesandacorns that is Bonnie Blue targeting the young students and their Dad's.

Oh apologies, you're right! I've no idea about the lady in the story then 🤷‍♀️

WasThatACorner · 11/12/2024 20:30

LookingForAHandHold · 11/12/2024 20:27

@WasThatACorner what's your point?

You asked why 36k people are into this - because they are.

Ahhhhh, thank you.

An intelligent, nuanced argument at last.

LookingForAHandHold · 11/12/2024 20:33

@WasThatACorner but what are you after? You're asking people to make your point for you instead of making it yourself.

It's like you're trying to get one of us to go "it's because men are sexist and enjoy porn and use women", when that's not what many of us believe.

MumOfOneAllAlone · 11/12/2024 20:33

SaMMaxis170 · 11/12/2024 20:07

one of the questions is why cannot women be publicly be allowed to showcase they enjoy sex without people auto assuming she was self destructing ?

Women can do as they please, it doesn't bother me what they do.

I've also been a bit free the nipple, it's just sex, sex is empowering. But I think it's gone too far and I think this young girl has realised that it's not really empowering to be used by all those disgusting men

The fact that she was left in tears, surrounded only by those profiting from her means that for me she's a victim

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NewBootsWeather · 11/12/2024 20:34

Her and Bonnie Blue have made a lot of money and are continuing to do so. The sob story was to add to the money making. They are still doing more things.

PinkLionFind · 11/12/2024 20:34

https://archive.ph/5j0RH

Article about Lilly

LookingForAHandHold · 11/12/2024 20:35

@MumOfOneAllAlone but you're focusing on one tiny snapshot. You're ignoring everything that's come since.

MumOfOneAllAlone · 11/12/2024 20:35

HornyHornersPinkyWinky · 11/12/2024 20:07

But she's apparently planning on doing it again...

I think you're projecting a huge amount on to her, and assuming a lot about how she feels.

Those tears didn't lie, and I think they showed exactly who she is and exactly the mess she has got herself into 🥺

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WasThatACorner · 11/12/2024 20:35

InterIgnis · 11/12/2024 20:28

I didn’t say that infantilizing. I said it was infantilizing, and victimizing, to use trauma/potential regret to strip adult individuals of liberty under the guise of saving them from themselves.

People are looking at reasons that a person would feel that this was a good idea.

Take the individuals out of it and look at the situations, account for studies that show a correlation between abuse / neglect and dysregulated sexual behaviour as an adult.

That isn't infantilizing, it's trying to understand.

Ludovico · 11/12/2024 20:36

LookingForAHandHold · 11/12/2024 20:08

Because for women, sex is a dirty thing that can only happen behind closed doors

She was crying on video because some men had spunked in her eyes - even after she had told them not too.

This is not enjoying sex this is allowing a gang bang of 100 men to abuse her for internet monetisation.

She’s damaged and has videos on tube which other damaged and vulnerable girls will see and may think it’s glamourous and walk the path you can never come back from.

No little girl ever thinks she wants to be rail roaded by 100 men to pay the rent when she grows up. I’d put money on it she ends up killing herself or becomes a drug addict before she is 50

This isn’t enjoying sex - this is extreme self abuse

LookingForAHandHold · 11/12/2024 20:36

@Ludovico she was crying because it wasn't the experience she had hoped for.

She told them they could cum on her face. Some of it went in her eye.

If she was that traumatised she wouldn't be jumping right back in, would she?

Londoneye20 · 11/12/2024 20:36

Mrsphilmiller · 11/12/2024 09:53

what the fuck was she thinking???

Unfortunate term of phrase

MumOfOneAllAlone · 11/12/2024 20:37

LookingForAHandHold · 11/12/2024 20:35

@MumOfOneAllAlone but you're focusing on one tiny snapshot. You're ignoring everything that's come since.

What's come since is highly polished videos. The snapshot is what we have to go on but it is far more telling than polished and edited professional videos

I think she's got bad people around her who aren't concerned about her wellbeing and are concerned with pimping her out for profit and the connections they're making

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MumOfOneAllAlone · 11/12/2024 20:38

Ludovico · 11/12/2024 20:36

She was crying on video because some men had spunked in her eyes - even after she had told them not too.

This is not enjoying sex this is allowing a gang bang of 100 men to abuse her for internet monetisation.

She’s damaged and has videos on tube which other damaged and vulnerable girls will see and may think it’s glamourous and walk the path you can never come back from.

No little girl ever thinks she wants to be rail roaded by 100 men to pay the rent when she grows up. I’d put money on it she ends up killing herself or becomes a drug addict before she is 50

This isn’t enjoying sex - this is extreme self abuse

Fingers crossed she doesn't kill herself 🥺

But yes I think this stupid decision will cost her huge chunks of her future and future peace of mind

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NordicwithTeen · 11/12/2024 20:39

Reminds me of when some women got super upset when Page 3 was stopped. Some women think men don't see any hole as a goal (and more have slept with men than would ever admit it). If she had seen the men in the Pelicot rapes she may have had a longer think on it.

WasThatACorner · 11/12/2024 20:39

LookingForAHandHold · 11/12/2024 20:33

@WasThatACorner but what are you after? You're asking people to make your point for you instead of making it yourself.

It's like you're trying to get one of us to go "it's because men are sexist and enjoy porn and use women", when that's not what many of us believe.

I'm asking people to look at what the reasons could be. I'm not asking anyone to make a point, just have a think.

Many men do enjoy porn, many men are exist, many men do use women. You don't have to agree with me. I doubt you ever will.

I'm asking for people to widen their focus from the one woman to look at what is going on in our society.

InterIgnis · 11/12/2024 20:41

WasThatACorner · 11/12/2024 20:35

People are looking at reasons that a person would feel that this was a good idea.

Take the individuals out of it and look at the situations, account for studies that show a correlation between abuse / neglect and dysregulated sexual behaviour as an adult.

That isn't infantilizing, it's trying to understand.

Money stands out as a big one.

Sure, I’m not disputing the correlation. It may or may not be a factor in this case, we don’t know.

Again, I’m not saying that is infantilizing. I’m saying it’s infantilizing to use trauma as a justification to strip an adult of their rights (which the OP was doing).

NewBootsWeather · 11/12/2024 20:45

MumOfOneAllAlone · 11/12/2024 20:37

What's come since is highly polished videos. The snapshot is what we have to go on but it is far more telling than polished and edited professional videos

I think she's got bad people around her who aren't concerned about her wellbeing and are concerned with pimping her out for profit and the connections they're making

All the youngsters can do the highly polished videos.

I don't think you have much experience of social media including Tiktok.

You come across as a really caring person but very naive.

WasThatACorner · 11/12/2024 20:45

InterIgnis · 11/12/2024 20:41

Money stands out as a big one.

Sure, I’m not disputing the correlation. It may or may not be a factor in this case, we don’t know.

Again, I’m not saying that is infantilizing. I’m saying it’s infantilizing to use trauma as a justification to strip an adult of their rights (which the OP was doing).

You're only looking at the motivation of 1 of the 36,101 people.

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