AIBU to think famous women don't look worse because they age, it's because of the surgery.

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Not going to name any specific women actors but I was just looking at one of my fave comedians whose just had a face full of fillers and she just didn't look great. She was about the same age as me (early 50s) and my friends and none of them have had anything done, (well maybe a little but it's not obvious if they have), but they all great and I'd be really shocked if any of them started to go down the route of such extreme fillers / botox etc.

I'm not saying I look like I've fallen into the fountain of youth, far from it, but I look, for want of a better word, normal.

I do get there is so much pressure on women in the public eye but after a certain stage of procedures it doesn't make anyone look any younger and just starts to make people look weird.

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Totally agree. I find some older actresses almost painful to look at now because the work they've had done just makes them look so...strange. I was watching a film recently with Brooke Shields in, we 're the same age, late 50s and she was so stunning in her youth, but I swear I look better than her now, just cos I haven't messed with my face! ( I DON'T mean that in a boastful way, it's just such a shame what she's done to her face.) I guess actresses are under a lot of pressure from the industry, and quite a few older actors are getting work done now too, which looks even more weird. Even young women are getting work done now, on the latest MAFS, half the women had had botox, fillets etc and it didn't look good!

I think there’s a sweet spot where lots of work is usually an improvement - would I like to look like Nicole Kidman at 70 as she does now? (Know she’s not 70 yet) Hell yes, if a toss up between this & saggy crone, crepey & old dumpy womanish in MS polyester in Lidl aisles.

Victoria B not an actress but she’s 50 & looks incredible. Look at her Spice Girl audition tapes. Fab work or is it the fish ;) Seriously, she looks amazing.

They have to stay believably fuckable unlike men

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@Appalonia I’ll bet Brooke looks better in flesh than on screen.

I saw Nicole Kidman on Graham Norton recently. She looked liked she was wearing a bad Halloween mask of herself.

You could well be right, I have no idea!

YABU @Catasleep.

Yes some tweakments and surgery prematurely age. But as @User14March says, there is a sweet spot that can be achieved as long as neither practioner nor client is in denial.

Some of my best friends are "saggy crones crepey & old dumpy womanish in MS polyester in Lidl aisles."

Old age is coming for you whether you like it or not. If you're lucky, that is.

I do think alot of the mature celebs would look so much better if they carried a bit more weight.
Natural filler in their cheeks instead of all that crap they inject.

I think if I could see a picture of what they'd have looked like now without having work done, vs with the work done, I'd rather look like the former. They would look like glamorous, fit, slim, well-looked after women (who were already blessed with good genes in the looks department), with a few more wrinkles, looking their age more, but without the slight uncanny valley look. Definitely preferable imo.

I think these threads are awfully smug and self congratulatory. Everybody circle jerking how morally superior they are because they haven't caved in to societal pressures to stay youthful and attractive.

Frankly, nobody else's face is in of our business. And if you get off on putting other women down you have caved to entirely different societal pressures and are not the feminist you believe yourself to be.

I'm not saying that at all, I have wrinkles, my hair is greying and I have all the hallmarks of being a woman in my 50s.

I would just like to say Pamela Anderson.

bloody amazing woman. Looks amazing too, despite not conforming to Hollywood pressure.

clearly she felt the pressure as a young actress but happy for her that she can embrace her looks now.

There is a fine line and a lot of overly aggressive drs out there, being a celebrity should mean you got to the best but it doesn’t always seem that way. I also don’t think everyone is best suited to certain procedures based on their face shape etc. a facelift makes some people look great and others look like the joker with their mouth stretched across their whole face. I’m sure the pressure to do things is great and I am not immune, I love Botox but I see such bad work around me (I live in LA) that I am terrified to ever do more!

Pamela Anderson looks incredible.

Threads like this do nothing but play into the insane level of scrutiny on women’s looks that drive so many to inject shit into their faces.

I don't really feel like I've had any such pressure tbh. I don't think it's unreasonable to aesthetically prefer naturally aged faces or to lament the fact that women (in the public eye or in general) feel pressurised to seek eternally youthful looks (largely unlike men).

I’d agree, I flicked onto a housewives of Dubai thing earlier and the vast majority had weird face fillers and trout pouts. That said whoever does Nicole Kidman is an artist. I watched her in Lioness recently and she is amazingly gorgeous. Either that or she has a grim portrait in the attic

I would not want to look like Nicole Kidman! I didn’t realise she is 57, while she doesn’t look old (and what’s wrong with looking old?!) she looks like mannequin and certainly not better than people who ‘look’ 57!

I fundamentally feel uncomfortable about the societal pressures on women around aging being a bad thing and something we need to try and fight against. I’m all for doing things that are going to help the likelihood of living a healthier life e.g eating well, having fun, being physically active etc. but I’m not up for invasive procedures that don’t help other than to externally conform to a perceived notion of what a 40/ 50 or 60 something person should.

I just don’t like the Old = Bad false equivalency.

I’m 46, happy to be so and hope to live healthily to a much older age.

I absolutely want to look as good as I can but without cosmetic stuff to supposedly make me look younger.

I have a big loud face. If I had fillers and Botox I’d lose part of who I am and I’m not here for that.

I want to look at natural faces. I'm so bored.

To me it screams of insecurity (and I know these older actresses aren't really free to make any other decision), but I hate it, on a personal level and at a societal level. Just stop.

@britinnyc me too in southern states & NYC, there’s a generic country club older society matron look that isn’t a good advert. That said at 80/90 I’d take it - Joan Collins is incredible & still intellectually smart.

The 45 plus ‘tweakment’ look can be subtle esp if quality of skin is good. Skin qual is regular facials, peels etc & good derm. All achievable if £ available. The £ LA 45 demographic often look flawless.

A stretched poor qual skin not great & early lower face lifts I’ve seen achieve little IME.

@forgivingfiggy thing is they’re all having work pretty much. Many times people say Helen Mirren looks great, no work there etc..

She's had a face lift.

@Mercurial123 exactly, NB: post above.