...to report a manager for sleeping with someone on his team?

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A male colleague recently received a significant, and IMO, undeserved promotion.
For context, I work in the beer industry and around 90% of all staff are male.
99% of all leaders are male.

This colleague, with no managerial experience, no has a large team of about 10 people covering large area of UK.

I spotted during an event on his first week, he seemed very 'close' to a female sales person, who has recently moved in the UK, and reports into him.

I've since found out they are sleeping together.

It's totally inappropriate, immature and an abuse of power - his is older than her, and her manager.

Shall I report it on whistleblowing number?

Yes that's gross.

How do you know they haven't reported their relationship to management?

I’d keep out of it personally. If she’s an internationally mobile adult, presumably she’s capable of taking her own decisions/not vulnerable?

Is it against company policy? Are they sleeping together, or are they in a relationship? You sound bitter or jealous. Of the promotion, not the sex!

What is your company's policy on this?

There are two issues here. The fact that you don't believe this person deserved the promotion is unrelated to him sleeping with a direct report.

The first bit is your issue to deal with. For the second part, most companies do not allow personal relationships with direct reports, so if you are confident of your facts, then I would report it.

Who’s told you they are sleeping together ?

How did you find out. Is it just gossip. As I very much doubt you can prove it. I think you’re envious. And you need to change job if you want to progress and you can’t do it where you are.

Whistleblowing is there for disclosures in the public interest so if you're going to use that mechanism you'll need to be clear about exactly what your concern is in terms of his wider responsibilities (is he in a position of trust as far as people outside the company are concerned, like a teacher or police officer for instance), risk to the public, risk to safeguarding or similar. It's not there because someone's done something you disagree with morally and it's given you the ick, but you don't want to address it with them directly.

And if your company doesn't have a policy barring relationships between staff and management, then 'reporting' turns into 'spreading gossip because I don't like this person and it suits my perspective to believe what I've heard and use it against him' which won't do your own promotion prospects any good longer term.

So the ‘relationship’ started before he was her manager?

If he got an undeserved promotion then I’d hazard a guess that someone senior is on his side. If you report this, realistically it would be the subordinate that gets managed out. Is that what you want?

Mind your own business. It will come across like you're jealous, especially if you don't have the facts and only gossip.

I can see how it might be inappropriate but immature? What makes it 'immature'? How is it an 'abuse of power's if this is between two consenting adults? Because you don't actually have the facts, do you? MYOB.

What makes you think this falls under whistleblowing?

I know of a situation where a male manager had an affair with one of his team members. When it came out, I don't think much happened to him work-wise. They changed reporting lines so she wasn't in his team anymore. Even if you report, that might be all that happens.

I'd focus my energy on looking for a new job instead.

It's not so much her but that it's unjust to set the example that people are hired for who they have sex with rather than their performance and capability.

I don’t think this is anything to do with you.
If the salesperson had got a promotion as a result of this then maybe. As you’ve described it the manager is the one who’s had a promotion so not seeing the connection.

I find it crazy that he was promoted, but I work in a very different function so not jealous.
I noticed on a night out they were very close. We work in hospitality/ beer industry and I had taken clients out - so it was inappropriate as they were usual a work 'hosting' event effectively a date.
This week I was urgently trying to get a hotel room in london after an event. I was told by the male I could use the females hotel room - she wouldn't need it as she would be in his room.

I just thought it was gross and it pisses me off my company is paying for them to have sex in hotels.

Not least she is young and just moved to the country.

It will be very obvious that you’re jealous of his role. It’s fine to be promoted without experience. You can’t have management experience it until you have it.

Are they both over 18? Does your company have a specific policy on this? If the answer is yes to the first question and no to the second then stay out of it, makes you sound bitter that you weren't promoted.

It is nothing to do with you, OP. Bizarrely, so many people on this website are obsessed with "reporting" people. Just why? So petty and vindictive.

Yes I agree. The promotee hasn’t actually benefitted from the relationship has he? If she was his senior it might be a different matter.

I'd just mind your own business. It's not affecting your job, they're both adults and plenty of couples meet at work.

I repeat - what's the company's policy on relationships between colleagues?

If they haven't breached it, you have absolutely no case, regardless of how inappropriate you might think this pairing is.

He isn't sales.

He was promoted to managing a large team with no managerial experience.

I think it's relevent because his lack of experience has lead him to sleep with his direct report which is immature and unprofessional IMO.

Sleep with someone at work, fine, but not a direct report- especially in our industry which is rife with sexual harassment!!

Smacks of jealousy to me on more than one level..