...to report a manager for sleeping with someone on his team?

[OutofIdeas86]

A male colleague recently received a significant, and IMO, undeserved promotion.
For context, I work in the beer industry and around 90% of all staff are male.
99% of all leaders are male.

This colleague, with no managerial experience, no has a large team of about 10 people covering large area of UK.

I spotted during an event on his first week, he seemed very 'close' to a female sales person, who has recently moved in the UK, and reports into him.

I've since found out they are sleeping together.

It's totally inappropriate, immature and an abuse of power - his is older than her, and her manager.

Shall I report it on whistleblowing number?

You sound very bitter.

The thing is, your opinion isn't that important here. You sound a bit dramatic saying they are using a work event as a date and that the company is paying for them to have sex.

In the nicest possible way, you need to worry about yourself and leave other people to it. You don't agree with his promotion or conduct, but you're not his senior and it isn't directly affecting you.

Ouch

If you want to decide who gets promoted and whether relationships are allowed in the workplace you need to start your own company.

I think it's relevent because his lack of experience has lead him to sleep with his direct report which is immature and unprofessional IMO.

I'm not sure I see the connection.

You are sounding really bitter about the promotion. They are not keeping it a secret so chances are the relationship has been reported to help avoid any conflicts of interest.

if you have evidence that this person is getting special treatment due to the relationship you can report at that stage.

No.
It’s not relevant- nobody is furthering their career through this.
You do just sound pissed off and jealous that he has had a promotion.

Nobody would be jealous of this 🤢 how low is the bar set. It's gross.

why would you @OutofIdeas86? 😕

If you feel she is vulnerable though, then do report

If you know, I doubt it's a secret.

Did he get the promotion you wanted? Do you fancy him?

Before Internet dating became a thing, the workplace was the most common place to meet a life partner. My best friend had an "affair" with her boss, who is twenty years her senior, 35 years ago. They have been married for 30 years, have two adult children and are very happy.

As long as this man and your colleague are happy and they are not breaking company rules, it's no one else's business.

I think it will turn out worse for you if you report him. You will come across as bitter and jealous and that will not improve your prospects with the company.

If you actually gave a damn, then the right thing to do is to take a colleague to one side and advise them that their actions are unprofessional and may lead to problems. But you don't. You clearly hate him and want to do your level best to undermine him or get him sacked. Why I don't know, and don't care. I suspect that you are goin g to do it no matter what anyone says, so I'll just point out that karma can be a bitch.

Should I stop sleeping with my husband OP? I manage his boss' boss.
If they're both adults I don't see the issue. Unless she starts to get preferential treatment. My husband would tell you the reverse is true in our situation, I have much higher expectations of him than others of his grade and he is also aware that his performance can reflect on me and impact my credibility.

Lots of people meet their partners at work. I doubt there's a company policy in your line of work. Assuming there's no coercion then really you need to steer clear.

The only useful thing you can do here is keep a distant eye on things. It's basically none of your business unless you can see that one of them is at risk of exploitation or harm.

The fact you think that 10 people is a 'large team' suggests you maybe are quite junior too so maybe haven't experienced this sort of thing among colleagues before. As long as it's a consenting adult relationship and nobody stands to win or lose in the workplace as a result then you just have to let them get on with it. Most workplaces would just make sure the one didn't manage the other in case of conflict of interest- that's the only reason I can think anyone would need to point the relationship out to a different manager.

How does anyone gain management experience without, at one point, not having any? No one is born with it.

OP you are not going to achieve anything by getting involved with this situation, except perhaps making yourself seem bitter.

i got as far as "underserved promotion" then decided yabvu and should keep your beak out.

Keep your nose out of it

Do you know even know the company

not your circus, mate. keep out of it.

I’d mind my own business…

As much as you want to protest, you’re clearly jealous op.
And if he works in a different part of the business to you, then it’s none of your business.
If it’s against company policy, it will come out eventually. It’s theirs and his teams business, not yours. Don’t be “that” person. It’ll do you no favours-and believe me, if you’re the one to report them, they will find out.

Unless it's specifically against company policy, YABU. Also, what do you mean about the company 'paying for them to have sex in hotels'? Unless they are shagging when they are supposed to be actually on duty at the event, I don't see how that's relevant. Presumably you don't regard the company as 'paying you to be asleep' in your hotel room when you're not working?

Premature post, apologies

Do you even know the company policy, OP?

I suspect that if anything the woman would be moved. If there is no performance issue, I am also afraid that anyone reporting this will be thought a busybody. Worse if this relationship does not violate policy.

You sound jealous, bitter and not very bright.

I would stay out of it.

Either the woman meets the minimum criteria and her employment will be defensible or their recruitment is a mess and you won't be thanked for raising this. I don't think it's a whistle blowing matter. That's more about public interest or a systemic risk I would say. That's rather than one off instances of what may look like impropriety but could easily be above board. The relationship may not be true for all you know. They may have declared it. She may be qualified for the role and was recruited fair and square despite her age and newness to the company.

If she's not up to the job, time will tell.

I get that this may appear frustrating but you may not know the full story and I don't think it's worth rocking the boat for. There are many cases where I would advise the opposite. I'm not all for an easy life, but this is not one of them.

If you've had enough of the culture, look for ways to change it positively or vote with your feet but I wouldn't single yourself out over someone shagging the boss and getting a promotion.