...to report a manager for sleeping with someone on his team?

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A male colleague recently received a significant, and IMO, undeserved promotion.
For context, I work in the beer industry and around 90% of all staff are male.
99% of all leaders are male.

This colleague, with no managerial experience, no has a large team of about 10 people covering large area of UK.

I spotted during an event on his first week, he seemed very 'close' to a female sales person, who has recently moved in the UK, and reports into him.

I've since found out they are sleeping together.

It's totally inappropriate, immature and an abuse of power - his is older than her, and her manager.

Shall I report it on whistleblowing number?

Don't do it OP. You'll come off a right tit. Focus on your work and your own life and business.

Who actually cares if it is against company policy anyway. Would people honestly report it on that basis alone??

His lack of experience could be a plus depending on his CV and why the bosses have promoted him.

I don't understand what you want to report. If it's his promotion, you are on a losing track without having essential information why it happened. If you want to report him for sleeping with a female colleague, you better produce some proof the relationship is unfair to your work or how you've been treated.

Whilst I agree this is unprofessional and inappropriate:

10 people is not a large team and it is not unusual (at least ime) for this size of team to be someone's first foray into management, especially if there are no more experienced candidates available

Many very experienced managers inappropriately sleep with junior staff - this has nothing to do with his level of experience

If he's being this open about it he doesn't seem worried about getting "caught" - are you sure it's against your company's policies? It is very common for people who work together to be in a relationship (although preferably not in a direct report situation)

Jealous, bitter colleagues whose life isn’t going well, would.

No. It is none of your business.

Exactly! I’ve known as many people who want to report people/need advice on whether they SHOULD report people…honestly, keep
your nose out OP, this is purely revenge on your part. None of your business, the hotel
bill isn’t coming out of your pocket!

And?

How do you know what previous experience they had? Their relationship has nothing to do with you.
Reporting them will show management exactly who you are!

I would.

In a previous job a manager in another team was having an affair with his direct report who was 20 years younger than him (he was married). She was very inexperienced and the most junior member of the team. When a vacancy came up in the team, she was surprisingly promoted to a much more senior role over other people who were more qualified and experienced than her. This caused a lot of upset as the more experienced people in the team who went for the internal promotion and didn't get it over her couldn't understand why they had missed out. So, when the pair of them were caught a couple of weeks later kissing in a pub after work by someone in another team, HR came down on them like a ton of bricks. She ended up leaving and he was given a formal warning.

People having relationships with direct reports doesn't just affect them, it affects their whole team. In the interests of fairness and transparency, relationships like that should be declared.

What you are talking about is gossip. You don’t know anything that happened.
Just gossip.
Keep out of it.

Totally agree - it’s literally nobody’s business and how it’s an ‘abuse of power’ is beyond me! Sorry OP, but you need to grow up

I wouldn't. They're not doing anything wrong/illegal/harmful to third parties.

I should've qualified my previous statement to make that clear.

Don't be so ridiculous.
A majority of people in hospitality and related industries couple up in work.

This is how my husband and I met.
He was my manager, I then worked my way up through sales and was accused of sleeping my way to the top

I laughed off such small minded jealous people.
Over a decade later, a marriage and 3 children I wonder if they still think that.

Doesn’t sound like OP is bothered really about what they do , more annoyed he got promotion and she never . Sounds like she wants to bring him down a peg or two

They don’t. Hence the anon whistleblowing line exists. If everything is above board then the report will be closed.

This stuff happens all the time , keep out of it
really nothing to do with you.
Just going to effect you negatively in the fall out
Use your energy and brain on something to benefit you

Keep your beak out of other people’s business.

I wouldn't purely because it doesn't just impact him, but also her.

You clearly don’t like this person.

Management clearly believe he is capable of performing in the role. If you believe differently and feel you can demonstrate this, book an appointment with HR.

His personal relationships are none of your business.

And did you use it? Was she not using it? As your phrasing is someone said, not you did. Which is not something you’d omit.

I think your over invested in something that had nothing to do with you

as for no management experience how do you think managers start in the first place everyone has to start somewhere

not once have you commented on there ability to do the job

I would too. But before reporting, there is a trail of inappropriate behaviour affecting promotions and professional relationships affecting teams that need to be documented.

Otherwise the reporting would just look as office gossip without factual base. The OP is making personal assertions on the basis of what she "thinks" or she spotted as a "close" relationship.

The inverted commas are not mine, they are the OP's in her original message.

How do you know they are sleeping together? Or what their relationship is exactly?

If she reports into him it’s a conflict of interest and she would be moved under a different line manager.

That’s about all that will happen for her not to receive preferential treatment.

It doesn’t necessarily get your man into trouble, which seems to be your objective. The fact that you dislike him doesn’t mean he isn’t suited to the job.

In my workplaces I have been fast track promoted a number of times as a young woman and that’s provoked similar reactions. People far removed from me don’t necessarily know what my qualifications or experience prior are, or what unique skills I’ve demonstrated to be a fit for a more senior role.

Loads of people meet their partners at work 🤷🏼‍♀️