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Neighbours complaining about occasional loud music

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Redavocados · 08/11/2024 21:11

Ok, its a neighbour one. No diagrams!

Name changed for this.

I live in a 2 bed house that is attached on one side. I am a very quiet person, I am single, usually live alone and am happy with silence and can spend days without putting music on. My DS who is late 20's moved back 3 months ago due to work, financial and MH / ND issues. He has had a terrible year and most of last winter he was suicidal having made some bad life decisions, and it was a huge struggle to get him any MH support. He is also very up and down in moods so sometimes I can talk to him about stuff and other times I just have to leave it several days otherwise he can blow up and shout and get angry. Then he is very apologetic and feels terrible afterwards. Needless to say, this is far from an ideal situation, but he is trying hard to sort himself out, engaging in therapy, taking antidepressants, has given up smoking and self-medicating, and is back in work.

Since he last lived here three years ago, I have new neighbours. A young couple, no kids, their first home. Previously had a good relationship with them.

DS has two hobbies, one is a fitness hobby and one is music / recording. When he is down he just sits quietly in his room watching content with headphones, but when he is in a good mood he sometimes sings and records. We both work from home, and the neighbours work from home.

About two months ago I was off work and out for the day and neighbour texted me as DS was playing music in the daytime (on his lunchbreak). I apologised to neighbours, spoke to son and explained that they work from home, so please don't play music in the day. He agreed and hasn't done it again. Then about three weeks ago he played music at 6.30/7pm on a Friday evening, for about 30 minutes. It was loud and bassy, I could hear it around the house, but it wasn't "party" loud, e.g. I could have put on the TV in the other room and still heard the TV over the music without needing to turn it up. As a person who enjoys peace and quiet I didn't love it but I could live with it. After 20 minutes neighbours texted and complained. I immediately asked son to turn it down, they said the bass was loud and that maybe if he turned the bass down it would be better, and could he wear headphones, so I asked him to turn the bass down in future. I also reminded him to wear headphones. I told them I had asked him to turn down bass and use headphones but I also pointed out to them that it was very early evening, after work time, it wasn't an unreasonable time to be playing music and it wasn't for very long (he goes to his fitness class at 7pm anyway).

Tonight, three weeks later he played music again, started at 6.15pm. The bass was less but he was singing loudly. No headphones, I assume because he needed to hear himself sing. I let it go as it was only for a short time and he hadn't played any music for three weeks. After 15 minutes the neighbours sent me a recording of it through their walls and said it is totally unreasonable that they can hear his music in their house. They claimed it had been an hour already.

They went on to say that they can hear him all day and evening. He coughs a lot as he has given up smoking - it drives me absolutely insane but there is nothing I can do besides remind him to use his inhaler and take cough medicine. And he has started closing doors loudly the last week and I have been waiting for him to get out of his latest low mood to ask him not to do that. They also said he bangs the adjoining wall all day - I know for a fact he doesn't because it is a small house and I have been home all week recovering from an operation, and I hear everything.

5 minutes after their first text he stopped playing anyway as he was going out. They are insisting that I am being unreasonable in allowing him to play music. I have explained (not that I should have to explain his personal situation but I did because we were previously on good terms) that he has been unwell and that music is one of the few things that he enjoys, so I am not going to stop him playing music out loud occasionally.

I have pushed back quite firmly that there are things that are annoying and I do get that and am sorry its annoying, but just because someone is annoying you doesn't mean they are actually being unreasonable, and that I don't think playing music once every 2-3 weeks at 6/7pm for 30-60 minutes at a time is unreasonable. I have also explained that it isn't forever, he is here for a year and the plan is that he will move out again next summer.

They are still maintaining - the pissy texts are still ongoing - that I am being inconsiderate and unreasonable and they should not have to hear any of his noise in their house.

I have never had any complaints from previous neighbours when he lived here before, once they just texted to ask if I was OK when they heard him shouting at me.

Am I being unreasonable in pushing back and expecting them to live with the music occasionally as its just early evening, for about half an hour once every few weeks?

OP posts:
nadine90 · 08/11/2024 21:17

If they wanted silence, they should have bought a detached house in the sticks. Tell them to stop harassing you and block them.

Marblesbackagain · 08/11/2024 21:18

They are being ridiculous. It is perfectly reasonable to play music during hours outside of 11pm-7am.

They don't live in a silent order it's music it's reasonable time. I would send one message and then block them.

I hope your son keeps getting better.

viques · 08/11/2024 21:19

I don’t think any neighbour should have to share another neighbours music, or tv for that matter. It’s why headphones, volume controls and subtitles were invented.

gamerchick · 08/11/2024 21:22

The damage has been done OP. Once a person has taken the piss and irritated the neighbours, it's done. He needs to use his headphones all of the time.

gamerchick · 08/11/2024 21:23

You could always sound proof his room. I'm sure there's a load of stuff available now. It's not all egg boxes.

Camelphat · 08/11/2024 21:23

I have new neighbours. A young couple, no kids, their first home.

Theres a sense of entitlement to that generation IME. I wouldnt expect thumbing bass for hours on end but an occasional burst every now and then shouldnt cause too much offence. Id politely tell them to jog on.

TunnocksOrDeath · 08/11/2024 21:24

Maybe one of them also has stress / mental health issues that are being exacerbated by the loud and unpredictable noise coming through their walls?

DawnBreaks · 08/11/2024 21:24

I don't want to listen to my neighbours crappy music EVER! Use headphones or just turn it down. Why does it need to be so loud that everyone can hear it? These days there isn't really any excuse for disturbing anyone else. But I know I'm probably in the minority, as people these days just don't seem to have any thought or respect for anyone else other than themselves. (Yes I have a shit neighbour who annoys me constantly!)

Daphnise · 08/11/2024 21:25

Your son is the problem, not these neighbours.
Why not get him to move out?

Swimmingatdusk · 08/11/2024 21:25

Well done for pushing back. My neighbours caught me on back foot complaining about lots of things including us closing the front door too loudly. We just shut it normally. I wish I’d pushed back. I think you are allowed to make normal household noise between 7am and 11pm. I think my neighbour needs to get therapy for hyperacusis, sound treat her side of the party wall or buy noise cancelling headphones, or just get things in perspective if you don’t live in a detached house.

Why should it always be your son who wears headphones, why can’t they wear noise cancelling headphones. Sorry he’s had a tough time, glad he’sgot music to help him. Hope your neighbours can learn to be kind and sensible as you sound like a considerate neighbour and they sound unreasonable expecting never to hear anything.

MumChp · 08/11/2024 21:26

DawnBreaks · 08/11/2024 21:24

I don't want to listen to my neighbours crappy music EVER! Use headphones or just turn it down. Why does it need to be so loud that everyone can hear it? These days there isn't really any excuse for disturbing anyone else. But I know I'm probably in the minority, as people these days just don't seem to have any thought or respect for anyone else other than themselves. (Yes I have a shit neighbour who annoys me constantly!)

No you are not a minority. We just notice the people being noisy feeling entitled.

DelilahBucket · 08/11/2024 21:26

The door banging would be enough to tip me over the edge. My neighbour does this when he's been drinking or in one of his moods, which is most days. It's constant and it's draining. Tell him to stop. They might be more forgiving of the music, if it really is only as short and infrequent as you say. To be honest though, listening to your neighbours bass through the walls is really annoying.

U13579 · 08/11/2024 21:28

viques · 08/11/2024 21:19

I don’t think any neighbour should have to share another neighbours music, or tv for that matter. It’s why headphones, volume controls and subtitles were invented.

Yep, totally unacceptable for them to have to put up with this. How do you know it isn't making them mentally unwell having to listen to his noise?
Home should be a safe place where you are not disturbed by others.

Jessie1259 · 08/11/2024 21:28

Could you swap rooms so he is not sharing a wall with them?

Camelphat · 08/11/2024 21:29

U13579 · 08/11/2024 21:28

Yep, totally unacceptable for them to have to put up with this. How do you know it isn't making them mentally unwell having to listen to his noise?
Home should be a safe place where you are not disturbed by others.

Impossible in any sort of attached house or indeed any housing estate. You'll hear cars coming and going, washing machines, lawnmowers, doors banging, people running up stairs. Music can be annoying but in occasional bursts its part of normal life.

Marblesbackagain · 08/11/2024 21:31

viques · 08/11/2024 21:19

I don’t think any neighbour should have to share another neighbours music, or tv for that matter. It’s why headphones, volume controls and subtitles were invented.

Unfortunately new build mean you will hear and plenty of us want to listen without headphones. It is a perfectly normal expectation.

Womblewife · 08/11/2024 21:32

Swimmingatdusk · 08/11/2024 21:25

Well done for pushing back. My neighbours caught me on back foot complaining about lots of things including us closing the front door too loudly. We just shut it normally. I wish I’d pushed back. I think you are allowed to make normal household noise between 7am and 11pm. I think my neighbour needs to get therapy for hyperacusis, sound treat her side of the party wall or buy noise cancelling headphones, or just get things in perspective if you don’t live in a detached house.

Why should it always be your son who wears headphones, why can’t they wear noise cancelling headphones. Sorry he’s had a tough time, glad he’sgot music to help him. Hope your neighbours can learn to be kind and sensible as you sound like a considerate neighbour and they sound unreasonable expecting never to hear anything.

I don’t think anyone should have to wear noise cancelling headphones in their own home to accommodate a neighbours music, that is madness.
They have been polite but it’s annoying them and is easily remedied by ds wearing headphones to listen to his music. The walls are obviously thin and you need to think about how you affect other people. If they retaliated by leaving a loud radio on all day next to the wall, I bet OP won’t like it.

Healingsfall · 08/11/2024 21:33

When a neighbour has teens it's more or less expected to deal with certain noise, but a 20 something manchild moving back home and causing stress to parents neighbours, absolutely not. Headphones were invented for a reason.

IdgieThreadgoodeIsMyHeroine · 08/11/2024 21:35

You and your son needs to learn that mental health issues are not an excuse for being inconsiderate. He can wear headphones like the rest of us manage to.

Marblesbackagain · 08/11/2024 21:35

Lads it is perfectly normal to listen to radio, music etc without having to use headphones. It isn't recommended to wear them for extended periods of time.

Local authorities policies literally set out the hours where normal life noise is acceptable. They set dB limits etc because it is recognised that life involves noise.

Honestly if people need silence they need to live in a very remote space.

Sweepsthepillowclean · 08/11/2024 21:46

I think you are getting an unfair bashing OP. Your son is ND with mental health issues. Singing and playing music extremely infrequently can help regulate him.
If you posted that your young ND child was having meltdowns and kicking the walls you would be told not to mind the neighbours and he cannot help it…just coz he is 20 doesn’t make him any less ND.
If it was every day I could understand but it’s not.

Redavocados · 08/11/2024 21:54

@womblewife

Well for the past two years I have had to listen to their dog bark every time they go out, I don't like it, to me a barking dog is like fingernails on blackboards.

But it's not unreasonable of them to leave their dog home alone for 3-4 hours once or twice a week, so it's a 'me' problem and I put on headphones when it's getting to me, and put up with it.

The music has been three times, the rest of the complaints are about him going about his daily life - no, he doesn't move around quietly, but before that when it was just me I was basically silent, I didn't even close doors in the house. So they got used to silence.

OP posts:
CuttingTheRoses · 08/11/2024 21:55

Are you my neighbour? 😂

Thatcastlethere · 08/11/2024 21:58

Your neighbours are nuts..
They are complaining about him coughing and closing doors during the day?!? Pure craziness. Be more assertive and don't be apologetic. The more you apologise abd try and appease them the more they think they have some kind of right go harass you like this.
Let them make recordings or whatever. If they actually complained to the police they'd be laughed at.
It's utterly ridiculous not being allowed to play music during the day occasionally in your own home.

Haveyouanyjam · 08/11/2024 21:59

YANBU. You live in a home with a shared wall and some noise is inevitable. We have new neighbours and therefore there has been a fair amount of drilling/banging whilst they (I assume) decorate and install furniture how they wish. The previous neighbours did a fair amount of work to get their house up to sell. It’s annoying, especially when you work from home, but I can hardly tell them they can’t because it’s annoying? People are extremely entitled in my opinion.

If you can still hear the TV then so can they.

We don’t live in a vacuum. If you don’t want noise, live somewhere remote