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To think he deserved what he got?

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MrsBunTheBakersMum · 23/10/2024 16:24

I want to preface this with violence is never the first answer and there was better ways of dealing with it.

I got a call from ds (13) school to say that he had been in trouble because he punched a boy in the face and knocked him to the ground, ds is autistic and wears a hat as a comfort item, he’s worn a hat every day for three years and is extremely protective of his hats, no one touches them not even me and his dad. The last time he got into trouble for violence was nearly two years ago when a kid took his hat and wouldn’t give it back. My ds is also gender confused at the moment, and has been since he was 7! (Still Goes by he/him) most people see a quiet gentle effeminate boy and think he will be a pushover but he’s not.

basically the kid took his hat and denied it, ds got in his face and asked for it back and he threw it into the mud at which point ds pushed him towards it and said “pick it up” (all on cctv with audio) the kid said no and pushed back, there was a scuffle and next thing the kid is on his arse on the floor holding his face and ds just calmly picked up his hat and walked off.
school were surprisingly understanding and said he wouldn’t try it on with ds again! Ds is getting isolated at break times for a day but won’t be suspended.

obviously I’ve spoken to ds about how there’s better ways to deal with things than resorting to violence but part of me wants to give him a high five! He’s always been a target for bullies for obvious reasons but I’m quite old and from the generation that understood that if you didn’t knock a bully on their arse and humble them they’d never stop. Hopefully this kid was suitably humiliated by getting his arse handed to him by a boy in a pink hat in front of the whole school and will learn a lesson from it.

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Sirzy · 23/10/2024 16:30

Sounds like the school has handled it perfectly. Yes your son was wrong but he was provoked.

ds had similar last week when another child called him a sp** thankfully his 1-1 intervened before ds had a chance to hit but school acknowledged the issue was the other child.

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Ameliasvocalfry · 23/10/2024 16:33

Good for him! I was bullied at school and no-one stood up for me so we taught our children to hit back and don't become victims.
The school seems to know just what the other kid is like so it sounds as though they think your son was probably in the right but they have to be seen not to condone fighting. I'd leave it at that.

CoffeeAndATwix · 23/10/2024 16:38

Well done your DS! :) violence is not the answer but good he stood up for himself. Hope both boys r ok.

What is this about satan that other posters are mentioning? That sounds like a v interesting thread!????? I feel I've missed something!

User37482 · 23/10/2024 16:41

Absolutely, one sharp smack is usually enough to nip it in the bud. They are looking for easy pickings up purpose. Good for your son.

Dragonsandcats · 23/10/2024 16:43

Well done to your son, hopefully he’ll be left alone now!

frecklejuice · 23/10/2024 16:43

Good for him, my Mum used to tell us a that we should never start a fight but if someone else does we make sure we end it!

AnellaA · 23/10/2024 16:45

I’ve said Yabu only because my dd was given a detention for pushing a girl in a large group of girls who were being aggressive and blocking her path of escape.

I think the school should give your ds at minimum whatever is their usual punishment for violence, it shouldn’t be ignored.

However I do privately agree that your ds probably did the right thing!

TheaBrandt · 23/10/2024 16:47

Live by the sword die by the sword as the other kid needs to learn!

StarSlinger · 23/10/2024 16:48

I'm sure I've read this thread before.

TheaBrandt · 23/10/2024 16:49

My gentle swotty academic never put a foot wrong Dd took swift and assertive physical action against a girl that was bullying dd2. She whined to school who quietly ignored it. Never been more proud. .

ExtraOnions · 23/10/2024 16:55

Violence is never the answer, and never to be celebrated.

What happens when your child is outside of school and someone takes their hat, or does something that steps over their boundary ? They might find themselves in a whole heap of trouble.

Depending on the other child I very much doubt thus is the last you will hear of it - only this time it may not be in school, or in front of CCTV.

Your child needs to go to a staff member, and I say this as a parent of an ASD child. They should also be giving the same punishment, as any other child was, for the level of violence used. We do our ASD children no favours by letting them believe that the world will adapt to them .. it won’t.

MrsBunTheBakersMum · 23/10/2024 16:57

To answer a question about gender , ds came to us an said he might be trans, we supported 100% ds also said that he wanted to keep pronouns for now and just see how he feels as he ages, he’s been pre Much gender fluid most of his life and that’s the assumption we’re working with at the moment. Ds is happy to be ds and is also happy sometimes when we call him dd, ds also wears whatever he feels like.

the satan thing calls back to an old thread where I mentioned I was a satanist and it became a whole thing. (I will not elaborate and will not be answering questions because that’s not relevant to this post)

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Dogateahotdog · 23/10/2024 17:03

Well done to him 👍

Dont understand the satan connection but ok

CoffeeAndATwix · 23/10/2024 17:04

MrsBunTheBakersMum · 23/10/2024 16:57

To answer a question about gender , ds came to us an said he might be trans, we supported 100% ds also said that he wanted to keep pronouns for now and just see how he feels as he ages, he’s been pre Much gender fluid most of his life and that’s the assumption we’re working with at the moment. Ds is happy to be ds and is also happy sometimes when we call him dd, ds also wears whatever he feels like.

the satan thing calls back to an old thread where I mentioned I was a satanist and it became a whole thing. (I will not elaborate and will not be answering questions because that’s not relevant to this post)

Oh I see. Thanks

Closetheblinds · 23/10/2024 17:05

The kid that took his hat shouldn’t have touched it. A kid teaching another kid a lesson. I’d retaliate if someone put their hands on me without permission too. Good for your son not allowing it.

MidnightMusing5 · 23/10/2024 17:07

High five!

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Allthehorsesintheworld · 23/10/2024 17:11

Well I’m old. And if anyone grabbed any piece of my clothing I’d lay them out too. Your son gave them the chance to hand his hat back, he chose not to so got what he deserved. Good on your lad for standing up to a bully.

ChampagneLassie · 23/10/2024 17:13

I agree, I think your boy did his best, you’ve got to stand up to bully’s. High five from me

Bikessmikes · 23/10/2024 17:13

I think it’s fine on one hand and the kids deserved it but I would be a little mindful of doing that, because you never can be sure of the repercussions.

Ablondiebutagoody · 23/10/2024 17:14

What is the better way to deal with it that you keep hinting at? I can't think of one. We need to teach our kids to stand up for themselves. I'm proud of him and don't even know him. Give him the high five!

MooPeng · 23/10/2024 17:14

I know people say violence is never the answer but honestly? Sometimes it is! Some bullies only understand violence.

Well done to your son!! Good on him sticking up for himself! Hopefully that’s the end of it now.