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What do I do now? SA by friend

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lookingforadvice26 · 06/10/2024 17:45

One of my closest friends of 10 + years, they had expressed desire to be with me romantically a while ago and I very clearly said no, it would never happen and the friendship continued. Went out Friday evening and had a great night, lots of drinking throughout the evening. They live close to where we were, we got lots of food on way home and they said in the taxi 'come into mine to eat the food' I have stayed at their house a few times because of the location after night out. Ate the food and then went to bed fully clothed. Woke up during the night to them touching me sexually and hands on my vagina inside my underwear. Was no consent. We had spent 10 hours together throughout the evening and I didn't give an indication of any interest, they didn't try anything on when I was awake. They waited until I was sleeping and touched me without my consent. I stood up immediately and walked outside and waited for a taxi to arrive and went home. I don't like confrontation.

I blocked them on WhatsApp but they sent a message on iMessage saying 'I’m sorry how the night ended last night.

You know how much I value you , you’re important to me so I hate if things aren’t good between us .
I adore you, I’d like to think you do know that ‘ which I ignored and then another-

‘Can we chat ?
I’ll call you or can even come over and bring some food if you like .
I Don’t want things being rubbish between us x’

I don’t even know what to do next, I have blocked them on message now also. I feel so upset, I feel like the whole friendship was a sham for them to get close and take advantage of me like that or all just sexually motivated and my friendship alone was never of any interest to them. I feel disgusted and I can’t stop thinking about it. I can’t believe I was so close with someone who would do this. I feel really disturbed by the whole thing.

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OneRarelySeesABrazierTheseDays · 09/10/2024 12:54

lookingforadvice26 · 06/10/2024 17:45

One of my closest friends of 10 + years, they had expressed desire to be with me romantically a while ago and I very clearly said no, it would never happen and the friendship continued. Went out Friday evening and had a great night, lots of drinking throughout the evening. They live close to where we were, we got lots of food on way home and they said in the taxi 'come into mine to eat the food' I have stayed at their house a few times because of the location after night out. Ate the food and then went to bed fully clothed. Woke up during the night to them touching me sexually and hands on my vagina inside my underwear. Was no consent. We had spent 10 hours together throughout the evening and I didn't give an indication of any interest, they didn't try anything on when I was awake. They waited until I was sleeping and touched me without my consent. I stood up immediately and walked outside and waited for a taxi to arrive and went home. I don't like confrontation.

I blocked them on WhatsApp but they sent a message on iMessage saying 'I’m sorry how the night ended last night.

You know how much I value you , you’re important to me so I hate if things aren’t good between us .
I adore you, I’d like to think you do know that ‘ which I ignored and then another-

‘Can we chat ?
I’ll call you or can even come over and bring some food if you like .
I Don’t want things being rubbish between us x’

I don’t even know what to do next, I have blocked them on message now also. I feel so upset, I feel like the whole friendship was a sham for them to get close and take advantage of me like that or all just sexually motivated and my friendship alone was never of any interest to them. I feel disgusted and I can’t stop thinking about it. I can’t believe I was so close with someone who would do this. I feel really disturbed by the whole thing.

Report him to the police
Or he will do that to someone else

ChiffandBipper · 09/10/2024 13:05

I would reply. Something along the lines of "I woke up to find your hand in my pants. I was asleep. Why did you do that?"

Then if he replies, at least you have something from him in writing confirming your account. Take a screen shot in case he deletes it at a later date.

I would also recommend you tell him to watch 'I may destroy you' on bbc player. It is one of the best things I have ever seen about sexual consent.

AW24 · 09/10/2024 13:17

SauviGone · 06/10/2024 18:12

I would message them (just so it’s on record, in writing, in case you do decide to take it further at some point)…

“I woke up to find you sexually assaulting me. Don’t ever contact me or try to speak to me ever again”.

And then block them on everything.

I agree with this x

ItWasOnAStarryNight · 09/10/2024 13:32

I'd reply to the first message saying "If you value me so much then why did you think it was ok to put your hands inside my knickers and sexually assault me while I slept? You were supposed to be my best friend"

Lays out what exactly happened, that you could not consent and gives a bit of the guilt trip which might make him respond and admit it. Then I'd take it to the police. If he doesn't admit it on the first reply though just block him again.

LessOfThis · 09/10/2024 13:44

It is NOT your responsibility to report this in case he assaults anyone in the future. People saying that need to take a look at themselves.

You should report it because YOU deserve justice.

Maray1967 · 09/10/2024 14:02

SauviGone · 06/10/2024 18:12

I would message them (just so it’s on record, in writing, in case you do decide to take it further at some point)…

“I woke up to find you sexually assaulting me. Don’t ever contact me or try to speak to me ever again”.

And then block them on everything.

This is what I would do. Make it clear what has happened but that there will be no future reply from you.

Make him sweat.

Firesideblanket · 09/10/2024 14:05

LessOfThis · 09/10/2024 13:44

It is NOT your responsibility to report this in case he assaults anyone in the future. People saying that need to take a look at themselves.

You should report it because YOU deserve justice.

This. It’s really rather victim blaming… if he repeats this behaviour that’s on him, not the OP.
Take your time OP, you don’t need to do anything you don’t want to do, that includes messaging him or reporting him. Handle this however you wish, you have no duty to anyone but yourself.

heartbroken22 · 09/10/2024 14:12

I'd report to the police because they could do it to another friend and in fact could go a lot further.

@TheArtfulScreamer1 please report them as it will be on file should he SA someone else.

lateatwork · 09/10/2024 14:14

His messages to you appear blind to the harm done to you- as if he has done nothing wrong- minimising at best.

Put the record straight- not for him to understand (he possibly won't) but I'd want to be heard. Then block.

Teeshs · 09/10/2024 14:24

possomblossom · 06/10/2024 19:47

@lookingforadvice26
I just wanted to say first: I am so sorry this happened to you. It was SA, no question. I suggest that if you do decide to respond in any way, you could: take your time, compose exactly what you want to say (maybe on pc/other platform. When you are happy you've covered what you want to say, unblock, send, then immediately block again. If it was me, my message would include something along the lines of: "it is a matter of fact that I woke up to find you sexually assaulting me. It is also a matter of fact that,due to this gross and unforgivable betrayal of our friendship, I no longer wish to have anything to do with you. So don't bother trying to contact me ever again. Any attempt to do so will result in an immediate report to the police." Then an immediate block. I hope your good friends are there for you and 🫂💐

This OP,

That is a serious violation and sexual assault
Not his first rodeo I would bet.

I would send the above so that he knows that you know he has committed a crime.

The police cannot prosecute this type of assault without your participation, but informing the police and putting him on their radar can definitely give you some satisfaction that you are helping others.

My friends daughter did this and a couple of years ago, the police called her to go over what happen.
She helped another victim be taken very seriously and showed he had form.

I'm so sorry this happened to you.
He is a dangerous predator.

Conniebygaslight · 09/10/2024 14:47

So sorry OP this is not only a dreadful betrayal of trust but also a complete violation of your boundaries and disrespect of your body. Please just do whatever you need to do to keep yourself safe both physically and emotionally because right now you don't feel it. If it makes you feel more unsafe having any contact with this person then don't. Seek support from those who you feel safe with.

Paganpentacle · 09/10/2024 14:49

lookingforadvice26 · 06/10/2024 18:43

I don't think I would report to the police. He told me that he felt suicidal before after a relationship breakdown and after 10+ years of friendship I feel like this was a serious blip in what I otherwise seen as someone morally sound. I'd feel guilty if I reported and he decided to do something like take his own life.

I suppose I was in two minds to reply to the text and call him out on it but I'm not sure it would achieve anything.

Its not your guilt.
You're not responsible for how he reacts when being confronted about sexually abusing you.
Because that's what he did.

EilonwyWithRedGoldHair · 09/10/2024 15:45

I've not read every response, but an alternative to the police is to contact your local SARC, they can talk you through your options with no pressure, they can also take a statement and support you if you do want to report what happened.

HelenHen · 09/10/2024 16:51

I am so sorry that he betrayed your trust and did this to you. He absolutely sexually assaulted you and you did not deserve that.

Right now, you take care of you. He is not your responsibility so don't be concerned about him hurting himself. If he does its because of what he did.

I do hope you send him a message laying out what happened and tell the police anyway so that it is on record.

But please do it for you... not because you feel like you have to.

YouOKHun · 09/10/2024 17:19

I hope you're OK @lookingforadvice26. It's a few days after your post and you may have decided how you are dealing what happened.

I think I would briefly unblock and message with the very clear words about what happened as @SauviGone has written. I would then screenshot the whole exchange and then block. What he messaged to you afterwards wasn't just minimising, it was strategic, to try and make it look like he was the reasonable one and you've gone off in a huff. I personally would respond with the facts just so there is a record.

You're not responsible for any of this. You're not responsible for him doing this again or for his reaction to you protecting yourself and ending the friendship. It's all on him and he knows it and is trying to cover himself. Sorry this happened to you, it's such a horrible thing to do to a trusting friend. Flowers

lookingforadvice26 · 09/10/2024 19:59

Thank you so much for checking in.

I'm surprised how much it's affected me and I can't stop thinking about it. I must be thinking about it 40-60 times a day atm, is that normal for other people who have been assaulted? Does it eventually start to lesson the thoughts? I suppose I'm angrier as the week has gone on and more disgusted at what he done.

When I first posted I was doubting if it was sexual assault and what his motives were. Now I feel it was absolutely sexual assault and he had an agenda with his 'friendship' the whole time, all of it was sexually driven and he was never interested in just being my friend. He's a creep and a predator.

So I blocked his number on my phone but my daughter's phone is linked to mine on iMessage and his messages came through on her phone. She alerted me to them today (although she hadn't opened them/wouldn't have understood the context) I glanced at them and seen something about him asking if I was still going on a holiday we were supposed to be going on together in a few months and how he had already booked (thankfully I hadn't booked mine). I couldn't bring myself to read the message and I deleted it without reading, I don't want to reply. I don't want to ever think about him again. He makes me feel sick.

I just want to whole situation to go away and addressing him directly in anyway about it massively increases my anxiety.

I feel disappointed in myself that I failed to spot the signs that someone was a creep and a predator. Before he done this I actually left my kids with him alone to nip out before. I had known him for 10+ years and believed I knew him extremely well. It's massively dented my trust in people going forward.

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MaybeItsBecauseImALodoner · 09/10/2024 20:07

lookingforadvice26 · 09/10/2024 19:59

Thank you so much for checking in.

I'm surprised how much it's affected me and I can't stop thinking about it. I must be thinking about it 40-60 times a day atm, is that normal for other people who have been assaulted? Does it eventually start to lesson the thoughts? I suppose I'm angrier as the week has gone on and more disgusted at what he done.

When I first posted I was doubting if it was sexual assault and what his motives were. Now I feel it was absolutely sexual assault and he had an agenda with his 'friendship' the whole time, all of it was sexually driven and he was never interested in just being my friend. He's a creep and a predator.

So I blocked his number on my phone but my daughter's phone is linked to mine on iMessage and his messages came through on her phone. She alerted me to them today (although she hadn't opened them/wouldn't have understood the context) I glanced at them and seen something about him asking if I was still going on a holiday we were supposed to be going on together in a few months and how he had already booked (thankfully I hadn't booked mine). I couldn't bring myself to read the message and I deleted it without reading, I don't want to reply. I don't want to ever think about him again. He makes me feel sick.

I just want to whole situation to go away and addressing him directly in anyway about it massively increases my anxiety.

I feel disappointed in myself that I failed to spot the signs that someone was a creep and a predator. Before he done this I actually left my kids with him alone to nip out before. I had known him for 10+ years and believed I knew him extremely well. It's massively dented my trust in people going forward.

I'm so sorry this has happened to you, It's so shocking.. It is very normal to be so affected by this and to keep replaying it, your brain is trying to make sense of it and it can't. I have contacted them myself a few times and they have been a huge help.. Rape Crisis UK helpline, it's 24 hours and you get 45 minutes to just talk anonymously to a a worker with no pressure to report, you don't even have to give your name.

RedToothBrush · 09/10/2024 20:10

"You sexually assaulted me without my consent. I do not owe you anything and I will not be engaging with you again in anyway. I am not interested in unacceptable excuses. You, and you alone are responsible for this".

And block.

And he's only gets that because you clearly have a number of mutual friends.

RedToothBrush · 09/10/2024 20:12

lookingforadvice26 · 09/10/2024 19:59

Thank you so much for checking in.

I'm surprised how much it's affected me and I can't stop thinking about it. I must be thinking about it 40-60 times a day atm, is that normal for other people who have been assaulted? Does it eventually start to lesson the thoughts? I suppose I'm angrier as the week has gone on and more disgusted at what he done.

When I first posted I was doubting if it was sexual assault and what his motives were. Now I feel it was absolutely sexual assault and he had an agenda with his 'friendship' the whole time, all of it was sexually driven and he was never interested in just being my friend. He's a creep and a predator.

So I blocked his number on my phone but my daughter's phone is linked to mine on iMessage and his messages came through on her phone. She alerted me to them today (although she hadn't opened them/wouldn't have understood the context) I glanced at them and seen something about him asking if I was still going on a holiday we were supposed to be going on together in a few months and how he had already booked (thankfully I hadn't booked mine). I couldn't bring myself to read the message and I deleted it without reading, I don't want to reply. I don't want to ever think about him again. He makes me feel sick.

I just want to whole situation to go away and addressing him directly in anyway about it massively increases my anxiety.

I feel disappointed in myself that I failed to spot the signs that someone was a creep and a predator. Before he done this I actually left my kids with him alone to nip out before. I had known him for 10+ years and believed I knew him extremely well. It's massively dented my trust in people going forward.

So he's now harassing you too.

I'd add that to the above.

"You sexually assaulted me without my consent. I do not owe you anything and I will not be engaging with you again in anyway. I am not interested in unacceptable excuses. You, and you alone are responsible for this. I will consider any further attempts to contact me or my children either directly or indirectly as harassment and will act accordingly".

FranceIsWhereItsAt · 09/10/2024 20:13

sonofrageandlove · 06/10/2024 18:57

im not saying it’s your responsibility OP, but this is unlikely to be the last time he tries this kind of thing. At least if the police have a record of it, then at least it’s building a picture of this person incase it’s needed in the future.

This!

GesmereldaWeatherwax · 09/10/2024 20:15

I'm so sorry you're going through this OP. I had a very similar thing happen to me many years ago. It's absolutely normal to think about it a huge amount, to feel angry, sad, hurt, frustrated etc. How you're feeling is absolutely horrible but I would say 100% normal. Personally I wouldn't bother unblocking him and reaching out to him, I doubt any good would come of it. For me I completely cut him out of my life. A few months later he messaged me (I can't remember how he got through tbh) saying he hadn't heard from for a while and he was worried about me. I absolutely let rip on him then, saying he SA me and how dare he claim he was worried about me. He got really argumentative and defensive back and tbh that made my mental health so much worse. It's difficult to know what's for the best but personally I'd strongly recommend just cutting him out.

You've mentioned feeling disappointed for not spotting the sounds. I understand why you feel that way but you are absolutely not to blame. None of us expect our friend to do something like this and it is utterly heartbreaking and scary when they do. You have done nothing wrong here.

If you're in a position to afford it, I'd highly recommend speaking to a private counsellor. It was a horrendous few months for me after it happened and private counselling was the only thing that got me through it.

Give yourself permission to feel your feelings, to cry, to feel angry, to just feel how you need to. Keep reaching out here if you feel you need to talk / you feel it will help, there's usually someone around that can help. If you're struggling to sleep as a result, it may also be worth speaking to your GP about support too. Most importantly I'd say try not to bottle things up if you can help it.

GesmereldaWeatherwax · 09/10/2024 20:17

Also just to add I understand why posters are suggesting the police but please only do this if it's something you want to do. He is the only person responsible for stopping himself doing this again, not you! I went to the police, they barely even took a statement and then told me it's my word against his so they wouldn't pursue it. Going to the police can add to the emotional burden already placed upon you by his actions. You have to look after yourself right now and do what is best for you.

Justasmallgless · 09/10/2024 20:17

I'm really sorry this has happened to you and that your "friend" has completely betrayed your trust and sexually assaulted you.

Your local sexual assault referral centre or rape crisis centre would be a really good start and they will not tell the police unless you want to. They can discuss options and support you as well as refer for counselling.

Sending big hugs and am glad you have told a friend too

ChiliFiend · 09/10/2024 20:26

SauviGone · 06/10/2024 18:12

I would message them (just so it’s on record, in writing, in case you do decide to take it further at some point)…

“I woke up to find you sexually assaulting me. Don’t ever contact me or try to speak to me ever again”.

And then block them on everything.

100% agree with this - you may not want to do anything about it now, but it preserves your position just in case you ever need help proving it down the line. I'm sorry this happened and hope you're ok.

lookingforadvice26 · 09/10/2024 20:30

GesmereldaWeatherwax · 09/10/2024 20:15

I'm so sorry you're going through this OP. I had a very similar thing happen to me many years ago. It's absolutely normal to think about it a huge amount, to feel angry, sad, hurt, frustrated etc. How you're feeling is absolutely horrible but I would say 100% normal. Personally I wouldn't bother unblocking him and reaching out to him, I doubt any good would come of it. For me I completely cut him out of my life. A few months later he messaged me (I can't remember how he got through tbh) saying he hadn't heard from for a while and he was worried about me. I absolutely let rip on him then, saying he SA me and how dare he claim he was worried about me. He got really argumentative and defensive back and tbh that made my mental health so much worse. It's difficult to know what's for the best but personally I'd strongly recommend just cutting him out.

You've mentioned feeling disappointed for not spotting the sounds. I understand why you feel that way but you are absolutely not to blame. None of us expect our friend to do something like this and it is utterly heartbreaking and scary when they do. You have done nothing wrong here.

If you're in a position to afford it, I'd highly recommend speaking to a private counsellor. It was a horrendous few months for me after it happened and private counselling was the only thing that got me through it.

Give yourself permission to feel your feelings, to cry, to feel angry, to just feel how you need to. Keep reaching out here if you feel you need to talk / you feel it will help, there's usually someone around that can help. If you're struggling to sleep as a result, it may also be worth speaking to your GP about support too. Most importantly I'd say try not to bottle things up if you can help it.

This was really helpful along with lots of other replies.

I think addressing it with him doesn't change what's happened and it will cause more anxiety for me about the back lash from him when he tries to defend himself.

On another note I have only recently finished chemo and had a clear scan to say I'm cancer free.I had a check up today with my consultant which I find horrendously triggering and I discussed my horrendous health anxiety that I battle with since I got the all clear. I then had a chat with a friend who told me about someone she knows cancer returning, it's now being terminal and she's going to be leaving children behind. The cancer I had is one of the most likely ones to return and I have horrendous anxiety around that. Overall a really emotionally heavy day.

I really do need to speak to a counsellor but i don't know where to start to find a new one.

I feel like my first session would be like that Katie price clip where she is filmed saying 'I was held hostage In South Africa, my horse was killed, I nearly died, ect ect ect' a total trauma dump 🙈🙈

This last years been RELENTLESS with the cancer, my child was ill, break down of my marriage and now this sexual assault from my closest friend 🤯

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