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Partner’s crazy ex wife.

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UpsetGirlx · 05/10/2024 20:17

I met my fiancé in 2019. He has one child with his ex wife. He told me from the beginning that his ex wife was unhinged, but I put it down to him using the phrase flippantly, and assumed he had probably done some wrongdoings in their marriage. His friends and family also used to mention how insane she is. I genuinely didn’t take much notice, as how many times as women have we been told about the ‘crazy ex’?

For the first year of dating, everything was fine. However, any time something big happens in our relationship (or any time to be honest) his ex does something nuts.

It first started in March 2020, when my partner and I decided to move in together as we didn’t want to spend lockdown alone. My fiancés ex sent him a huge rambling email, probably over 2000 words long, accusing him of being unsafe, killing vulnerable people, that we were terrible for breaking lockdown rules. We didn’t do anything to break the rules, other than combine our households. My fiancé obviously couldn’t see his child at this time due to Covid restrictions. Throughout lockdown, we had visits from the police who had been told we were having parties and flouting lockdown rules. We can’t be sure it was his ex wife, but we are pretty certain due to her earlier email, the fact it was all lies and nobody else would have any motivation.

In 2022 my fiance proposed to me, and the day after the proposal, she turned up at our door with my stepson and said that he was living with us from now on. No explanation, just turned up on the doorstep with his bags. This caused huge issues as we had to change our entire lives around to do the school run some half an hour away, take him to all his clubs, his friends houses. We both work full time and didn’t plan for this. Before this, my stepson had been over every weekend, so it was a massive lifestyle change. Eventually, his ex wife agreed that stepson could come and live with her again, and it’s been a 50% arrangement ever since.

In 2023, I got a promotion at work. I’m not sure how she found out (maybe LinkedIn, is all I can think?) but a couple of weeks later we had a fraudulent claim made against us via the CMS. She claimed that we never had stepson overnight and we became liable for massive payments which took months and a court order to eventually sort out. In the meantime, we were down thousands and have no way to get the money back, even though it was clear fraud.

Yesterday I announced my pregnancy, and today she has sent my fiancé a long email saying she is going to be reporting us to stepsons school and social services as she doesn’t think we are fit parents, this is despite her up until this point being happy for us to have stepson 50% of the time. We are good people, stepson loves his time here, this is just another attempt to disrupt our lives.

These are all the big things, intermingled in all of this is lots of crazy phone calls, texts, emails. I’m at my wits end. It’s causing huge arguments between me and my fiancé and I’ve reached the point of just wanting to leave and go it alone. I can’t cope with the near constant disruption and living on edge not knowing what she’s going to do next. I feel idiotic as I was warned from the beginning that she was crazy, but it wasn’t until we made major life decisions that she really became a massive disruptor in our lives.

OP posts:
justasking111 · 05/10/2024 23:12

CwmYoy · 05/10/2024 22:44

OP has left the thread so the man hating first wives club can STFU now.

Usual suspects out in force getting their jollies by piling more venom on a woman already in distress.

It happens time and time again here.

The ridiculous shapes people bend themselves into to apportion blame would be hilarious if they weren't intended to cause hurt.

What is the matter with some of you? Are you this vile in real life?

It's Saturday night 🙄

justasking111 · 05/10/2024 23:16

Billydavey · 05/10/2024 22:50

I know most of mumsnet likes to believe that “my ex is crazy” is just part of a script and nonsense, but sometimes it’s true.

amazing how many posters will twist and turn to avoid blaming a woman who’s clearly at fault and find a reason it must be the man’s fault…

Friends ex was a seesaw depending on how much she had drunk that day. It was awful for the four children, who eventually abandoned her as adults.

Greencustard · 05/10/2024 23:17

Marblesbackagain · 05/10/2024 22:43

Hang on let's be very clear.

Behaviour during COVID by dad was horrendous.

Alleges the ex was always crazy. So had child with crazy person, left child with crazy person and then icing on top didn't physically connect with child during COVID but knew he was with crazy ex.

Okay anyone really ready to believe that pile of crap?

@UpsetGirlx I am sorry but there's clearly two horrendous parents.

Horrendous? Behave. Some of the dramatics on here are outrageous.

OP there's no point posting as a step-mum on Mumsnet these days. It doesn't matter the facts. Every single thread started by a step-mum goes the same way. If you hadn't given them the nugget about covid, they would have found another angle to berate you from.

KaToby · 05/10/2024 23:24

UpsetGirlx · 05/10/2024 20:56

He’s great with stepson, a brilliant dad, I wouldn’t be having a child with him if there was any doubt.

He has never gone into details about their relationship, but I’ve had confirmation from pretty much all his friends and family that she’s ‘insane’, so I think she genuinely has some serious mental health conditions.

Confirmation from HIS friends and family, yes because he’s told them she’s crazy.
Good luck having a child with him OP

Greencustard · 05/10/2024 23:27

kkloo · 05/10/2024 23:07

Better to deal with an actual crazy ex than what you thought you were getting into, a relationship with a man who behaved badly and then made out his ex was unhinged.

It's bizarre that you believed that but then got into a relationship with him anyway.

Hang on...are you condoning the behaviour of the ex? I don't understand your comment. What is it you think the OP 'believed'? OP has witnessed the behaviour.

kkloo · 05/10/2024 23:29

Greencustard · 05/10/2024 23:27

Hang on...are you condoning the behaviour of the ex? I don't understand your comment. What is it you think the OP 'believed'? OP has witnessed the behaviour.

I'm not condoning it.
I'm saying it's better to have to deal with a crazy ex, than to have to deal with a man who behaves badly and then says the ex is crazy.

Which is what the OP believed. She explains that in her very first paragraph. If he was the type that would behave badly and then make out the ex is unhinged then he'd be doing the same to her right not.

Greencustard · 05/10/2024 23:29

KaToby · 05/10/2024 23:24

Confirmation from HIS friends and family, yes because he’s told them she’s crazy.
Good luck having a child with him OP

Do you not believe that some women can behave appallingly?

Purposefullyporous · 05/10/2024 23:30

I'm sorry the thread has gone this way and OP has left.
Yes men quite often use the 'my crazy ex' line when it's in fact they who are the problem.
But there are really some nuts women out there too.
I had to get a restraining order out on my DHs ex. She was completely unhinged. They were only together just under a year and never even lived together yet she harassed me and him for 3 bloody years.
I wasn't even 'the other woman' and she knows I wasn't. There was no other woman.
He left her because she did shit like ring all his female friends and family members up and scream at them. Followed him to work and to his uni course to check he was where he said he was. She destroyed one of his uni projects by pouring ink all over it because she was jealous of the attention he paid it!! And she gave him a black eye because she thought he was flirting witha waitress in a cafe they went to.
And she'd just text him constant abuse, like constant.
When we got together she started sending me constant abuse.. she had several phones and hundreds of social media accounts and email addresses, so you'd block one andanother would start. She even messaged my family members and several of my friends and two of my ex partners! She even sent handwritten letters to our address! When I fell pregnant she sent me a whole slow of messages saying the baby was going to be mentally ill. Absolutely disgusting.
When i finally contacted the police they took it seriously and it wasn't hard to get a restraining order. Which did work, we never heard from her again. It's been 10 years now so I think it's finally over.

So when man says he has a crazy ex I know most of the time he's a twat.. but every now and again he's actually telling the truth.

Needtobefitterrr · 05/10/2024 23:32

I just feel really sorry for the step son 😔

RunningOutOfImaginitiveUsernames · 05/10/2024 23:38

Purposefullyporous · 05/10/2024 23:30

I'm sorry the thread has gone this way and OP has left.
Yes men quite often use the 'my crazy ex' line when it's in fact they who are the problem.
But there are really some nuts women out there too.
I had to get a restraining order out on my DHs ex. She was completely unhinged. They were only together just under a year and never even lived together yet she harassed me and him for 3 bloody years.
I wasn't even 'the other woman' and she knows I wasn't. There was no other woman.
He left her because she did shit like ring all his female friends and family members up and scream at them. Followed him to work and to his uni course to check he was where he said he was. She destroyed one of his uni projects by pouring ink all over it because she was jealous of the attention he paid it!! And she gave him a black eye because she thought he was flirting witha waitress in a cafe they went to.
And she'd just text him constant abuse, like constant.
When we got together she started sending me constant abuse.. she had several phones and hundreds of social media accounts and email addresses, so you'd block one andanother would start. She even messaged my family members and several of my friends and two of my ex partners! She even sent handwritten letters to our address! When I fell pregnant she sent me a whole slow of messages saying the baby was going to be mentally ill. Absolutely disgusting.
When i finally contacted the police they took it seriously and it wasn't hard to get a restraining order. Which did work, we never heard from her again. It's been 10 years now so I think it's finally over.

So when man says he has a crazy ex I know most of the time he's a twat.. but every now and again he's actually telling the truth.

I'm so sorry you had to deal with that. I lost so much weight I was painfully thin and would feel sick when a notification tone went off on my phone (the years before people switched to vibrate!) so would regularly change it.

TakeMeDancing · 05/10/2024 23:46

UpsetGirlx · 05/10/2024 21:17

Why the huge focus over lockdown? His mum also insisted stepson didn’t travel due to her elderly relative. They did weekly zooms, he sent gifts every week and saw him as soon as the draconian rules were lifted.

I’m not sure why everyone is focussing on this one potential slight of my partner, and not the multitude of nutty things his ex has done.

Because he didn’t refer to the proper channels (BBC website, daily PM briefings, gov.uk website) to research the actual rules. Instead, he took Covid advice from someone who you describe as “unhinged”, took it at face value, didn’t do any actual research of the rules himself, and missed months of contact with his child.

AGoingConcern · 06/10/2024 00:00

TakeMeDancing · 05/10/2024 23:46

Because he didn’t refer to the proper channels (BBC website, daily PM briefings, gov.uk website) to research the actual rules. Instead, he took Covid advice from someone who you describe as “unhinged”, took it at face value, didn’t do any actual research of the rules himself, and missed months of contact with his child.

Ok.

So your logic is that because he aquiesced to the mother of his child's request not to suspend in-person visitation for (at most) a couple of months four years ago rather than fighting her on it, the mother is therefore forever in the right to harrass him and his pregnant fiance, make malicious allegations, and suddenly tell her young child he can't live with her at all anymore on a whim?

TakeMeDancing · 06/10/2024 00:05

AGoingConcern · 06/10/2024 00:00

Ok.

So your logic is that because he aquiesced to the mother of his child's request not to suspend in-person visitation for (at most) a couple of months four years ago rather than fighting her on it, the mother is therefore forever in the right to harrass him and his pregnant fiance, make malicious allegations, and suddenly tell her young child he can't live with her at all anymore on a whim?

Edited

Nope.

I was responding to why people were so focussed on why he didn’t see his kid for months.

AGoingConcern · 06/10/2024 00:08

TakeMeDancing · 06/10/2024 00:05

Nope.

I was responding to why people were so focussed on why he didn’t see his kid for months.

They're harping on something that is ultimately irrelevant to the ex's unacceptable behavior rather than address OP's dilemma because they want an excuse to turn every man and second wife into pantomime villian.

CraftyPlumViewer · 06/10/2024 00:10

TakeMeDancing · 06/10/2024 00:05

Nope.

I was responding to why people were so focussed on why he didn’t see his kid for months.

But why? It's irrelevant to the problem the OP is now facing and doesn't in anyway excuse the ex making frivolous police reports and false claims.

Even though the rules would not have prevented him from seeing his child, it's obvious that the ex didn't want to allow visits (and, to be fair, actually had a good reason).

If he was buying weekly gifts and doing zoom calls, it's obvious he wasn't checked out and that he was thinking of and missing his child.

Greencustard · 06/10/2024 00:11

AGoingConcern · 06/10/2024 00:00

Ok.

So your logic is that because he aquiesced to the mother of his child's request not to suspend in-person visitation for (at most) a couple of months four years ago rather than fighting her on it, the mother is therefore forever in the right to harrass him and his pregnant fiance, make malicious allegations, and suddenly tell her young child he can't live with her at all anymore on a whim?

Edited

Seems there's more than a few with this logic on the thread. The fact they don't even mention ex's behaviour is very telling.

Marblesbackagain · 06/10/2024 00:19

Greencustard · 05/10/2024 23:17

Horrendous? Behave. Some of the dramatics on here are outrageous.

OP there's no point posting as a step-mum on Mumsnet these days. It doesn't matter the facts. Every single thread started by a step-mum goes the same way. If you hadn't given them the nugget about covid, they would have found another angle to berate you from.

If you don't view actually seeing hugging them while the world is gone to shit. Yes I am proud to say I judge that parent as shit no excuse.

CraftyPlumViewer · 06/10/2024 00:30

Marblesbackagain · 06/10/2024 00:19

If you don't view actually seeing hugging them while the world is gone to shit. Yes I am proud to say I judge that parent as shit no excuse.

No doubt if the dad posted at the time of the first lockdown "My son primarily lives with his mother, I usually see him on weekends but she wants to suspend contact during lockdown because she regularly visits an elderly relative and wants to minimize the risk of exposure - should I overrule her and force visits?" everyone would have been siding with the Ex then too.

Marblesbackagain · 06/10/2024 00:32

CraftyPlumViewer · 06/10/2024 00:30

No doubt if the dad posted at the time of the first lockdown "My son primarily lives with his mother, I usually see him on weekends but she wants to suspend contact during lockdown because she regularly visits an elderly relative and wants to minimize the risk of exposure - should I overrule her and force visits?" everyone would have been siding with the Ex then too.

No and I commented on plenty of threads at the time saying the same. My previous account name was marblessolveeverything so you can verify.

Marblesbackagain · 06/10/2024 00:33

Parental contact comes before every single thing in my book.

Purposefullyporous · 06/10/2024 00:33

RunningOutOfImaginitiveUsernames · 05/10/2024 23:38

I'm so sorry you had to deal with that. I lost so much weight I was painfully thin and would feel sick when a notification tone went off on my phone (the years before people switched to vibrate!) so would regularly change it.

Yes I understand. I actually got rid of my mobile phone during getting the restraining order when i was pregnant, and didn't get one again until my son started school.

BlackShuck3 · 06/10/2024 00:40

This woman sounds a bit psycho-nuts to me😐 I dont like the sound of her @UpsetGirlx
Do you think there is a way to get her to pipe down?

CraftyPlumViewer · 06/10/2024 00:44

Marblesbackagain · 06/10/2024 00:32

No and I commented on plenty of threads at the time saying the same. My previous account name was marblessolveeverything so you can verify.

I couldn't find a relevant thread you posted on I'm afraid.

Marblesbackagain · 06/10/2024 00:47

CraftyPlumViewer · 06/10/2024 00:44

I couldn't find a relevant thread you posted on I'm afraid.

Look harder there were plenty.