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To expect other women not to hold door to ladies changing area open?

217 replies

swimmingannoyance · 21/09/2024 12:40

I take my DD(3) to a toddler swim class on a Saturday morning. It's usually a mixture of mums and dads in the pool, separate changing areas obviously. However the changing areas open directly into the corridor where other parents (the non swimming parent) tend to congregate and wait. DD's class is mostly dads with just me and one other mum, so just me and her in the changing area after the class today. I'd already removed my costume under my towel and was drying myself off, obviously naked under a towel, chatting to DD. Next thing, the other mum opens the door (her costume still on) to have a conversation with her male partner who was waiting in the corridor whilst I'm standing feet away under my towel naked. I wasn't directly in his line of vision of had she opened the door any wider, I would have been (hard to explain without a picture of the set up). It was only a matter of a minute or so, she was from what I could gather trying to get her toddler to go with dad so she could change by herself.

AIBU to have been annoyed about this? Surely if you want to have a conversation with your partner and you're in a ladies changing area, with another woman who you can see is mid getting changed, go out into the corridor instead?? It just felt like an invasion of my privacy, I'd never have opened the door to casually chat to my DH outside the door of a changing area if another woman was changing.

OP posts:
CellophaneFlower · 21/09/2024 16:31

swimmingannoyance · 21/09/2024 16:26

I don't believe I've been remotely aggressive.

You really have. You swore at one poster twice on the first page!

SerafinasGoose · 21/09/2024 16:33

ThirstyThursday · 21/09/2024 13:09

@swimmingannoyance

calm down. You were wrapped in a towel, nothing happened, she didn't open the door wider & if she had. He'd have seen you... wrapped in a towel ?!?!

you're massively over reacting to a one minute issue.

I'm sure you do things that bother other people,

Another 'not my Nigel', no doubt. The human door-stop and the PP who made the comment above.

Women's changing rooms are for women only. She can talk to her partner outside.

If there's any repetition of this, ask her to please close the door as people are changing in here. The second phrase is important as it subtly shames them; any pushback from this and you're justified in responding that this isn't a public show.

Not everyone is the type to take such a broad hint, but some might.

BettyBardMacDonald · 21/09/2024 16:35

ttcat37 · 21/09/2024 16:29

YANBU. I would be mortified about another bloke seeing me in just a towel. I guess some women care about who sees them in this vulnerable state and some don’t. I feel the same if someone comes to the door and I’m in my pyjamas- I don’t answer.

Agree. Some of us have standards.

swimmingannoyance · 21/09/2024 16:37

Shinydoor · 21/09/2024 16:25

As I've already said - to see whether any other women might feel similarly to me in this situation. And I've discovered that many would. Which has helped to validate my feelings

it’s been about 50/50. So if it had been 75/25 disagreeing with you, you have changed your mind?

Of course it's been 50/50 - people are different aren't they. But just having at least some people say "yes I'd have felt similar", has helped to confirm that my feelings were indeed valid. I don't need a specific percentage - that's a bit black and white thinking. It's enough to know that at least some people have understood and would have felt similar.

OP posts:
Thistooshallpass24 · 21/09/2024 16:39

Surely everyone's feelings are valid to themselves?

swimmingannoyance · 21/09/2024 16:41

theresabluebirdinmyheart · 21/09/2024 16:14

This thread is fucking mental. Of course YANBU OP, the other woman was thoughtless and inconsiderate. It’s a changing room where women change and strip naked , you do not hold the door open and let men gawp in.

I feel like I've entered an alternate universe sometimes 😂

OP posts:
theresabluebirdinmyheart · 21/09/2024 16:43

Shinydoor · 21/09/2024 16:22

What do you want from this thread?

Validation that you’re annoyed?

to have a go at anyone that disagrees?

Seeking validation for being annoyed is kinda the whole point of Am I Being Unreasonable? is it not?

swimmingannoyance · 21/09/2024 16:47

Seeking validation for being annoyed is kinda the whole point of Am I Being Unreasonable? is it not?

I thought so, yes 😂

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adriftinadenofvipers · 21/09/2024 17:05

Yes, I would feel the same as you, but I don't think it was malicious, rather thoughtless and inconsiderate. You should have spoken up though rather than silently seethe.

I can't think of anywhere that it would be a "cultural norm" to open the door of a changing room and speak to your male partner (or female, for that matter!)

I don't think this thread is ever going to make you feel any better though. You seem to have worked yourself up from angry to incandescent, given the tone of the replies. I find people increasingly inconsiderate, but there are still some kind and thoughtful people out there. I'd hazard a guess she was stressed by her children - I hated swimming lessons, although I did 9 years at the side of that goddamn pool!! - and I just don't think you were on her radar at all.

Put it out of your head, and enjoy your Saturday night!

MasterBeth · 21/09/2024 17:07

What a thread this is!

Has anyone actually disagreed with the OP and suggested that the other woman should have held the door open? I think not.

And yet here's the OP effing and jeffing at all comers who dare suggest that she might have handled the situation better

Talk about starting an argument in an empty room!

swimmingannoyance · 21/09/2024 17:08

@MasterBeth
That's a huge exaggeration and you know it. I'm not "effing and jeffing" at anyone who disagrees. What utter hyperbolic garbage 😂

OP posts:
swimmingannoyance · 21/09/2024 17:09

I don't think this thread is ever going to make you feel any better though

On the contrary. It actually has.

OP posts:
LakieLady · 21/09/2024 17:12

swimmingannoyance · 21/09/2024 14:01

@Thistooshallpass24
I think you're missing the point - just read my previous posts - I can't bear to top it again. 😂

I'm not struggling with assertiveness, nor looking for advice on how to approach it.

I'm asking whether my annoyance is valid.

Not valid, imo. You were wrapped in a towel, ie not naked.

Maybe you should get one of these if you're that worried that the towel might slip and someone get a glimpse of bosom or buttock:

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MasterBeth · 21/09/2024 17:12

swimmingannoyance · 21/09/2024 17:08

@MasterBeth
That's a huge exaggeration and you know it. I'm not "effing and jeffing" at anyone who disagrees. What utter hyperbolic garbage 😂

"FFS", "this is bollocks."

swimmingannoyance · 21/09/2024 17:13

@MasterBeth
Yeah I'm aware of what I said to the odd poster, thanks 😂

I'm saying it's an exaggeration that it's "anyone who disagrees"

OP posts:
DOBARDAN · 21/09/2024 17:15

Moveoverdarlin · 21/09/2024 15:44

She just wouldn’t have thought about a random woman in the changing room. You weren’t actually naked and no one actually saw you. If you dropped the towel and a corridor full of Dads saw you completely starkers I could understand the post. But in this instance I think I would have thought ‘that was close, they could have got an eyeful’. But here’s the thing. THEY DIDN’T.

Yes, but it was only through luck that none of the dads saw OP naked, had her towel dropped. it certainly wasn't because of the judgement of the other women in the changing room who opened the door for a chat to her partner. In any case, I wouldn't want the dads seeing me wrapped in only a towel, whilst drying myself off.

swimmingannoyance · 21/09/2024 17:15

And the poster who I replied to saying their comment was bollocks, was the one who said "OP just doesn't like this woman, she's admitted that". Which was factually incorrect, therefore, bollocks by definition.

OP posts:
MasterBeth · 21/09/2024 17:16

swimmingannoyance · 21/09/2024 17:13

@MasterBeth
Yeah I'm aware of what I said to the odd poster, thanks 😂

I'm saying it's an exaggeration that it's "anyone who disagrees"

FFS, this is bollocks.

You can't put quote marks round something you said in order to pretend it's something I said.

swimmingannoyance · 21/09/2024 17:21

@MasterBeth ok 😂
You're right, I don't have the energy 😂

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swimmingannoyance · 21/09/2024 17:21

@DOBARDAN
Thank you!

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Wrongsideofpennines · 21/09/2024 18:16

It would annoy me too.

As well as the fact there are children presumably getting changed in that space too which opens with a view from the corridor.

TamzinGrey · 21/09/2024 18:32

YANBU I would have been fuming. Can't believe that there are people on here who would happily have held a door open from a room containing naked women, onto a corridor where random strangers could have been staring in.

FoodieToo · 21/09/2024 18:40

CellophaneFlower · 21/09/2024 16:31

You really have. You swore at one poster twice on the first page!

Agree, you seem really aggressive.
You obviously have reasons for feeling like this but I do find it odd to be so bothered about an open door in a changing room .
You had a towel on you and the man ( most likely ) was not some kind of depraved pervert trying to have a look at you .

Brefugee · 21/09/2024 18:42

OP has a bit of a problem in that she can't see how agressive she is. And because she is agressive here, most of us simply can't understand why she couldn't open her mouth and even say something like "can you shut the door, I'm gettig changed"

So i guess she just wanted to... who knows.

CellophaneFlower · 21/09/2024 18:46

The posters who are saying you're being a bit over the top are mostly saying the other mum WAS inconsiderate though, just that your reaction to it ie not saying anything to her but being extremely vocal about it on a thread is a tad extreme.

Some of the posters that are filling you with glee as they're agreeing with you however, seem to be a little unhinged. They've turned one dad speaking to his partner into "men gawping" and being "under the male gaze".

If you're happy with validation from people who are a bit extreme in their reactions rather than your average, non dramatic, measured response, then I guess this thread has helped you find that.