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To be incensed that a man cost council tax payers £63,000 for insisting he had a gender fluid Daschund?

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TorghunKhan · 17/09/2024 18:05

£63,000 could have paid for an awful lot of things for the poorest families in Cambridgeshire, instead, thousands of hours and a huge pile of cash has been paid out because of some dickhead, virtue signalling in a meeting

https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/gender-neutral-daschund-social-worker-wins-63-000-discrimination-payout/

This brave woman did what we all need to do, stood up, called bullshit on something patently absurd, and instead of supporting her, her bosses called her "nasty" and excluded HER from meetings! She's a social worker!

WTF is going on? Is it the backwards decade where we all do the opposite of what's sensible?

Social worker wins £63,000 discrimination payout over 'offensive' comments about colleague’s ‘gender neutral’ daschund

A social worker has won a £63,000 payout over discriminating comments made about colleague’s ‘gender neutral’ daschund.

https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/gender-neutral-daschund-social-worker-wins-63-000-discrimination-payout

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menopausalmare · 17/09/2024 18:51

That daschund is in 'girl mode', judging by 'their' outfit.

TorghunKhan · 17/09/2024 18:52

TriesNotToBeCynical · 17/09/2024 18:49

Did you mean trans frogs?

FML. I might as well do. Makes as much sense as a bloody trans dog.

At least frogs CAN CHANGE SEX

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Iforgotagain · 17/09/2024 18:53

I was admitting a cat at work to have his testicles off and the owner told me he (the tom cat) identified as a she. I then had to have a very frank conversation about biology, just to ensure they knew what they were consenting to. Hmm
So certainly not the first lunatic to claim this!

TorghunKhan · 17/09/2024 18:54

LlynTegid · 17/09/2024 18:51

The £63000 is what the person has been paid. Over and above that there will be the legal fees and the salaries paid for those attending the tribunal.

I'd expect a cost of £100,000 plus in total.

Probably more in total, just think how many hours of the top managers had to put into this, thinking about the response, placing meetings, what a disgrace.

I bet someone could do an FOI to find out how much it all cost the local tax payers

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nothingcomestonothing · 17/09/2024 18:54

FOJN · 17/09/2024 18:50

I'm surprised the nut job who was traumatised by the misgendering of his dog hasn't been reported to Social Work England for undermining confidence in the profession and bringing it into disrepute. He deserves to be.

Nah Social Work England only sanction women who think sex exists and sometimes matters - see Rachel Meade case. The sacred caste are well, sacred.

FOJN · 17/09/2024 18:54

This is what happens when you indulge lunatics who believe that gender identity matters more than sex, they get to accuse you of hate and bigotry if you don't agree.

FOJN · 17/09/2024 18:55

nothingcomestonothing · 17/09/2024 18:54

Nah Social Work England only sanction women who think sex exists and sometimes matters - see Rachel Meade case. The sacred caste are well, sacred.

I know, the world is upside down.

Thursdaygirl · 17/09/2024 18:56

TealTraybake · 17/09/2024 18:14

On the plus side - this case demonstrates how patently absurd this ‘transphobia’ dogma is.

Definitely

EmmaGrundyForPM · 17/09/2024 18:58

I'm one of Lizzie's colleagues. I am so proud of her for standing up to this, and so ashamed of myself for not daring to put my head above the parapet. Senior management are toxic but I have a mortgage to pay......

TriesNotToBeCynical · 17/09/2024 18:58

FOJN · 17/09/2024 18:50

I'm surprised the nut job who was traumatised by the misgendering of his dog hasn't been reported to Social Work England for undermining confidence in the profession and bringing it into disrepute. He deserves to be.

To be fair, this is, as usual, shoddy journalism because the complainant actually gave a robust opinion on human transsexuals too - the dog headline was just sensationalism. Nonetheless the same applies, she was victimised for perfectly reasonable opinions her colleagues didn't happen to agree with.

Motomum23 · 17/09/2024 19:00

Has anyone called the RSPCA?? I mean this male dog must be mortified. What if I put my senile grandpa in a dress and said he thinks he's a she... (tongue in cheek in case anyone thinks I might actually think dogs can be mortified)

Helleofabore · 17/09/2024 19:01

EmmaGrundyForPM · 17/09/2024 18:58

I'm one of Lizzie's colleagues. I am so proud of her for standing up to this, and so ashamed of myself for not daring to put my head above the parapet. Senior management are toxic but I have a mortgage to pay......

Goodness. Don’t beat yourself up. There is a huge skew towards woman keeping their heads down and just keeping to themselves. Please don’t feel you need to do anything that jeopardizes your career.

TriesNotToBeCynical · 17/09/2024 19:02

Motomum23 · 17/09/2024 19:00

Has anyone called the RSPCA?? I mean this male dog must be mortified. What if I put my senile grandpa in a dress and said he thinks he's a she... (tongue in cheek in case anyone thinks I might actually think dogs can be mortified)

Dogs certainly can be mortified with embarrassment, usually by their owners. But they really don't care at all about gender for 95% of the time.

TorghunKhan · 17/09/2024 19:04

EmmaGrundyForPM · 17/09/2024 18:58

I'm one of Lizzie's colleagues. I am so proud of her for standing up to this, and so ashamed of myself for not daring to put my head above the parapet. Senior management are toxic but I have a mortgage to pay......

£63,000 might help towards paying it ;)

Anonymously, has training changed? is there a review?

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EmmaGrundyForPM · 17/09/2024 19:07

No training so far, but the verdict was announced in our staff news letter. Lizzie is amazing to ensure that a commitment to training was part of the deal.

DownThePubWithStevieNicks · 17/09/2024 19:07

nothingcomestonothing · 17/09/2024 18:38

He was a social worker, and was left shaking and unable to sleep. These people are something else.

https://thecritic.co.uk/the-curious-incident-of-the-dog-and-the-tribunal/

“she focussed on reciting facts and scientific data”

Someone in HR said that and thought that was a good argument.

Totallymessed · 17/09/2024 19:08

The bigger problem is the useless management and HR department who didn't tell the social worker with the dachshund in a dress to get a bloody grip.

TealTraybake · 17/09/2024 19:13

TriesNotToBeCynical · 17/09/2024 19:02

Dogs certainly can be mortified with embarrassment, usually by their owners. But they really don't care at all about gender for 95% of the time.

To be fair they don’t care about gender at all ever. Probably because it’s purely a human social construct. They will probably care about sex if they are not neutered / spayed.

TorghunKhan · 17/09/2024 19:15

nothingcomestonothing · 17/09/2024 18:38

He was a social worker, and was left shaking and unable to sleep. These people are something else.

https://thecritic.co.uk/the-curious-incident-of-the-dog-and-the-tribunal/

The dog owner went on record to say:

"I am wondering if this symbolic violence is being extended in practices in supervision."

CAN YOU BELIEVE THIS WORLD WHAT THE HELL

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LovelyButteryBiscuitBase · 17/09/2024 19:15

EmmaGrundyForPM · 17/09/2024 18:58

I'm one of Lizzie's colleagues. I am so proud of her for standing up to this, and so ashamed of myself for not daring to put my head above the parapet. Senior management are toxic but I have a mortgage to pay......

My mum worked for the same local authority about 20 odd years ago as an EWO and she said that senior management was toxic then.

Irridescantshimmmer · 17/09/2024 19:20

Even the Dachshund would think he's as mad as a box of frogs.

YourMommaWasASnowblower · 17/09/2024 19:20

Bloody hell, This is a step too far!
Even my own Dachshund thinks it’s madness!!

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 17/09/2024 19:22

littleHen84 · 17/09/2024 18:13

As an aside to the above what about calling out the ridiculous and often pointless nature of dressing animals and then posing for pictures, placing an animal in a dress to spark debate...they are dogs not props.

Hear hear! and Well said!

TriesNotToBeCynical · 17/09/2024 19:23

TealTraybake · 17/09/2024 19:13

To be fair they don’t care about gender at all ever. Probably because it’s purely a human social construct. They will probably care about sex if they are not neutered / spayed.

Sorry, what I meant was they don't care about which sex they are 95% of the time. The sex of another dog doesn't usually concern them, eostrus excepted.

FOJN · 17/09/2024 19:24

TriesNotToBeCynical · 17/09/2024 18:58

To be fair, this is, as usual, shoddy journalism because the complainant actually gave a robust opinion on human transsexuals too - the dog headline was just sensationalism. Nonetheless the same applies, she was victimised for perfectly reasonable opinions her colleagues didn't happen to agree with.

If only he'd confined his remarks to concerns about humans. I refuse to take anyone seriously who thinks refusing to acknowledge their dogs gender fluidity is indicative of someone who would discriminate against people.