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To not be happy with new teacher so far because of this

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Chilli89 · 12/09/2024 15:42

  1. I messaged her about something and she said she would sort it a few days ago and that someone would be in touch the next day and I’ve heard nothing
  2. We were told reading books had come home and I messaged the same day saying my D son hadn’t got his and they still haven’t supplied one for him
  3. they were in the line at drop off. he wanted help so approached her. She shouted at me ‘don’t shout at me, I won’t talk at you if you shout at me’ in a really angry face. She didn’t know I was stood there, he did not shout, I heard the whole thing

aibu to not be happy so far?

my d son has only just turned 5. In Y1

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Chilli89 · 12/09/2024 15:42

Sorry. She shouted at him, not me.

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Chilli89 · 12/09/2024 15:54

I have already explained to her that he is struggling a bit about wanting to come in and I feel like this is just going to make things worse. He looked like he was going to burst into tears and was just looking at me

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Violetangels · 12/09/2024 16:06

What did you say to teacher when she shouted at your son? Have you spoken to anyone else in school about this

Ablondiebutagoody · 12/09/2024 16:09

Presumably he has only been in school for a week. I think that you should stop messaging the teacher and let everyone settle in. If she has 30 kids, there's no way she can deal with 2 x 30 messages instantly.

Bushmillsbabe · 12/09/2024 16:10

Maybe ask for a quick meeting with her so you can discuss all your concerns at one time. It doesn't sound great, but maybe there is some more context you aren't aware of. I would keep the tome of any messages very polite and focus more on your concerns around your sin struggling and how can work together to support him

KerryBlues · 12/09/2024 16:12

What did he need help with when lining up? You were standing right there, why didn’t he ask you?

Loosestools · 12/09/2024 16:14

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HappyThread · 12/09/2024 16:19

At the beginning of the school year I think the first 2 points are OK. She's probably busy.

The shouting would trouble me. Especially if she knows he's already struggling with settling in and especially if he's only 5.

Petitchat · 12/09/2024 16:21

Ablondiebutagoody · 12/09/2024 16:09

Presumably he has only been in school for a week. I think that you should stop messaging the teacher and let everyone settle in. If she has 30 kids, there's no way she can deal with 2 x 30 messages instantly.

What's that got to do with the teacher shouting at a 5 year old?

Chilli89 · 12/09/2024 16:21

Ablondiebutagoody · 12/09/2024 16:09

Presumably he has only been in school for a week. I think that you should stop messaging the teacher and let everyone settle in. If she has 30 kids, there's no way she can deal with 2 x 30 messages instantly.

She put a thing out saying any concerns please message me. I only messaged because she’d said books had gone out and that it’s important we read them at home and return them next week. So I was trying to make her aware. It was two days ago, says message was read but no book still

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Chilli89 · 12/09/2024 16:23

I haven’t spoke to anyone yet, it was just at drop off. She just had an outburst at him, I saw the whole thing and it wasn’t needed as he definitely didn’t shout at her. I don’t think she knew I was there

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Accipe · 12/09/2024 16:23

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So true, I have heard teachers saying that they have received messages from parents on Friday night then a complaint on Saturday morning because there's been no reply!
No teacher should be expected to respond to parents out of school hours, were I still working I would not even look at messages out of school hours. Parents expect too much.

Chilli89 · 12/09/2024 16:24

KerryBlues · 12/09/2024 16:12

What did he need help with when lining up? You were standing right there, why didn’t he ask you?

They’re not allowed to leave the line until the teacher sees the parent aswell

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Chilli89 · 12/09/2024 16:25

It was at pick up.. not drop off, sorry. But she was letting others tell her that they could see their mum, but not him. She just shouted

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LeaveTheFlerken · 12/09/2024 16:27

It's possible she's totally unreasonable and shouted unfairly. It's also possible that she was frazzled at the end of a day and a barrage of questions and interruptions from children who weren't following rules about putting their hands up and sitting properly on the carpet etc which meant she couldn't get through the stuff she needed to say / do properly. It's also possible she raised her voice a bit louder than you'd like but that doesn't mean she shouted. The book not coming home isn't a major problem. Give it a few days more for everyone settle down and if things still aren't as they should be or you have any further concerns, talk to her at pick up / drop off.

ShanghaiDiva · 12/09/2024 16:27

the shouting is unnecessary and unacceptable.

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I think it's more concerning about a teacher shouting at a small boy, looking really angry and lying to his face.

Chilli89 · 12/09/2024 16:28

Accipe · 12/09/2024 16:23

So true, I have heard teachers saying that they have received messages from parents on Friday night then a complaint on Saturday morning because there's been no reply!
No teacher should be expected to respond to parents out of school hours, were I still working I would not even look at messages out of school hours. Parents expect too much.

I haven’t put any complaints and I definitely didn’t message out of school hours. I was just making her aware he didn’t have a book as she said please message her if needed and said it’s important they read their books and return them

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MrMucker · 12/09/2024 16:28
  1. Cut her some slack, your child is probably about 0.5% of her total responsibilities
  2. Cut her some slack on the book, you'll get one eventually, and in the meantime don't you have other reading books for him anyway, making this a non-issue? And if not, can't you get any?
  3. If you're in line for anything, no, you're not supposed to be approaching the teacher for anything. You child stepped out of the line and it annoyed the teacher. If she shouted and he didn't like it, then tell him not to get out of the line. He needs to learn to wait the same as everyone else.

And 4. Spend some time explaining these things to your anxious child rather than pressurising the already overstretched school staff. How is he supposed to get the skills of confidence and patience if you don't model it to him?

Stop. Complaining. About. Schools.

Chilli89 · 12/09/2024 16:30

LeaveTheFlerken · 12/09/2024 16:27

It's possible she's totally unreasonable and shouted unfairly. It's also possible that she was frazzled at the end of a day and a barrage of questions and interruptions from children who weren't following rules about putting their hands up and sitting properly on the carpet etc which meant she couldn't get through the stuff she needed to say / do properly. It's also possible she raised her voice a bit louder than you'd like but that doesn't mean she shouted. The book not coming home isn't a major problem. Give it a few days more for everyone settle down and if things still aren't as they should be or you have any further concerns, talk to her at pick up / drop off.

It was definitely a shout and she had her hands and arms waving around and everything, all stressed. Understand it’s the end of the day but he didn’t shout at her and he looked really upset after

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Ablondiebutagoody · 12/09/2024 16:30

Chilli89 · 12/09/2024 16:21

She put a thing out saying any concerns please message me. I only messaged because she’d said books had gone out and that it’s important we read them at home and return them next week. So I was trying to make her aware. It was two days ago, says message was read but no book still

I get that but she will also be recieving messages about kids who are anxious, missing coats/jumpers/waterbottles, little Barry not eating his lunch, problems at drop off/pick up etc. etc. etc. It will take a while to get a class of 30 kids running smoothly. Give her a chance!

whatsappdoc · 12/09/2024 16:32

Well the shouting at him seems over the top. Did he say what happened beforehand? Eg had he kept asking the same thing over and over? Not an excuse but maybe she was exasperated. I would have tried to sort it out there and then I think. Leave the reading book thing for a week, there's no rush, she's probably busy sorting it all out and just hasn't updated you. Try and keep the messaging to important things.

Odearr · 12/09/2024 16:33

If a teacher can't deal with 30 5 year olds acting like 5 year olds without being frazzled/shouting/annoyed then maybe they shouldn't be a teacher of small children.
it takes a certain temperament to cope with that many small children and it's not for everyone. But 5 year olds are very young and shouldn't be shouted at for minor things like that

Chilli89 · 12/09/2024 16:33

MrMucker · 12/09/2024 16:28

  1. Cut her some slack, your child is probably about 0.5% of her total responsibilities
  2. Cut her some slack on the book, you'll get one eventually, and in the meantime don't you have other reading books for him anyway, making this a non-issue? And if not, can't you get any?
  3. If you're in line for anything, no, you're not supposed to be approaching the teacher for anything. You child stepped out of the line and it annoyed the teacher. If she shouted and he didn't like it, then tell him not to get out of the line. He needs to learn to wait the same as everyone else.

And 4. Spend some time explaining these things to your anxious child rather than pressurising the already overstretched school staff. How is he supposed to get the skills of confidence and patience if you don't model it to him?

Stop. Complaining. About. Schools.

  1. I agree but I was given a time frame and haven’t heard anything
  2. Yes, lots of books at home but she has said the school book is to read this week and returned, to talk about at school. I was just making her aware
  3. Other children were stepping out of line to say they saw their mum, she was ok with that. As soon as my son approached she got annoyed.

she told me a couple of days ago, when I said he was struggling, that’s he no bother at school. So it’s not that he’s misbehaving

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hideawayforever · 12/09/2024 16:33

I wouldn't be happy with this at all, if someone shouted at an adult in work like this it would be unacceptable.
I would definitely have a word with her about it. that's so wrong....poor kid.