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To not be happy with new teacher so far because of this

318 replies

Chilli89 · 12/09/2024 15:42

  1. I messaged her about something and she said she would sort it a few days ago and that someone would be in touch the next day and I’ve heard nothing
  2. We were told reading books had come home and I messaged the same day saying my D son hadn’t got his and they still haven’t supplied one for him
  3. they were in the line at drop off. he wanted help so approached her. She shouted at me ‘don’t shout at me, I won’t talk at you if you shout at me’ in a really angry face. She didn’t know I was stood there, he did not shout, I heard the whole thing

aibu to not be happy so far?

my d son has only just turned 5. In Y1

OP posts:
Chilli89 · 12/09/2024 16:51

ManchesterLu · 12/09/2024 16:49

Yeah this. Stop nagging the teacher. She's stressed.

How am I nagging the teacher?

She told us to message her if we need too. I sent a polite message to say he hadn’t received his book, in response to the post she put on.

I had quick word with her a couple of days after, after waiting for all the children to be dismissed. I was communicating my son’s needs to her so she’s aware of it, incase of any upset at school.

OP posts:
Ophy83 · 12/09/2024 16:53

I wouldn't stress about the book - you've told her he doesn't have it, if he doesn't read it that isn't his fault

I'd be more concerned by the shouting unless there was a possibility you'd misinterpreted? Has your son said anything about what she's like?

Chilli89 · 12/09/2024 16:54

Ophy83 · 12/09/2024 16:53

I wouldn't stress about the book - you've told her he doesn't have it, if he doesn't read it that isn't his fault

I'd be more concerned by the shouting unless there was a possibility you'd misinterpreted? Has your son said anything about what she's like?

He hasn’t said much, just that he wants his old teacher back (reception)

OP posts:
Hydrangea58 · 12/09/2024 16:55

I can't imagine a teacher shouting at a five year old in front of a whole lot of parents.

She may have been sharp, but she is still in the throes of matching the right adult to the right child. If she gets that wrong it's a potential disaster.

I wouldn't stress about the reading book. It's very unusual for a child to discuss the reading book at school anyway. They read it, you sign to say that he's read it, job done.

I think there may be some exaggeration going on here.

LeontineFrance · 12/09/2024 16:56

Tell her you will not have your son spoken to like that. She needs to know. It is the beginning of term and she should have things organised. You don't speak to a five year old like that. It is unacceptable. If she is like this now, stressed, and speaking badly to the children, it will not bode well for the year. Speak to the head, say what you have seen and nip it in the bud. Both my daughter and I had a teacher like this at our local school ( a nasty piece of work) and she gave so many children a complex with her vicious ways, it still reverberates years down the line. Stop it now so you son has a good school experience. Shocking!

Petitchat · 12/09/2024 16:58

I don't think some posters are reading OP's posts properly.
Seems pretty clear to me.

Why are people sticking up for an abusive teacher?
Why can't people understand the book situation? It's simple, OP has followed the teacher's request.
Why are people blaming the child and OP?

I don't get it......

CabbagesAndCeilingWax · 12/09/2024 17:02

Luckily this very clear cut, aggressive outburst, aimed directly at a tearful 5yo, happened at the very public time of school pick-up. So there will be lots of other parents who saw exactly what you saw, and can corroborate your story to the Head.

Grmumpy · 12/09/2024 17:03

Sorry but I am with you op..as a retired teacher. I think if he needs a specific reading book for a scheme it is understandable that you want him to have it. Try and reassure him that his new teacher will be fine but with so many new children to look after it may take her a while. I would be upset if my child experienced this. I would perhaps give a nice note into school office ..dear ms.. I know you must be very busy with your new class but chilli junior hasn’t got his reading scheme book. I want to help him with this s would be grateful if he could have one today many thanks chilli.

PurpleCheese · 12/09/2024 17:05

HappyThread · 12/09/2024 16:19

At the beginning of the school year I think the first 2 points are OK. She's probably busy.

The shouting would trouble me. Especially if she knows he's already struggling with settling in and especially if he's only 5.

Agree entirely.

waterrat · 12/09/2024 17:07

I loathe the tendency on mumsnet to assume teachers can do no wrong.

If you have a 5 year old you are absolutely entitled to tell the teacher if they are struggling.

hideawayforever · 12/09/2024 17:07

Petitchat · 12/09/2024 16:58

I don't think some posters are reading OP's posts properly.
Seems pretty clear to me.

Why are people sticking up for an abusive teacher?
Why can't people understand the book situation? It's simple, OP has followed the teacher's request.
Why are people blaming the child and OP?

I don't get it......

because they're probably teachers, it's always like this on here, don't dare critisize any teacher.

StasisMom · 12/09/2024 17:12

Odearr · 12/09/2024 16:33

If a teacher can't deal with 30 5 year olds acting like 5 year olds without being frazzled/shouting/annoyed then maybe they shouldn't be a teacher of small children.
it takes a certain temperament to cope with that many small children and it's not for everyone. But 5 year olds are very young and shouldn't be shouted at for minor things like that

Well yes absolutely. I was a teacher and am not a fan of parents jumping to complain, but this sounds unreasonable. Any primary teacher should be patient and calm, especially with the younger ones.

strawberryshortcakescat · 12/09/2024 17:13

Releasing children at the end of the day can be incredibly stressful.
Especially a new class.
No need to shout at a child, but maybe they were overwhelmed could the 'shouting' be aimed at the whole line, who weren't following the rules.
In Year 1 they should be able to line up, listen and follow instructions. It's a point of safety, the last thing you want is one wandering off and getting lost.
Perhaps that's why she was so bloody stressed.

Bluevelvetsofa · 12/09/2024 17:16

I think many posters who have responded, have said that shouting isn’t acceptable and some of those are, or were, teachers.

OP if your child hasn’t got a book yet, I’d ask in person once more and then take it further if none is forthcoming.

Crystallizedring · 12/09/2024 17:17

Doesn't matter if she's stressed. I used to get stressed when I worked with nursery age children, I didn't shout at them. I would maybe not say anything this time but if it becomes regular you need to speak to her and say her shouting at him is upsetting him. Try not to say it in front of your DS though.
The other things I'd let go and it's highly unlikely he's the only one without a reading book, children always think it's just them. If he doesn't get a reading book by Monday I'd ask her at pick up about it.

Sartre · 12/09/2024 17:19

Not huge issues in the grand scheme of things. It’s difficult at the start of term with kids trying to settle back into the swing of things, I’d give her a chance. Ask for the book in person at drop off or pick up.

Ace56 · 12/09/2024 17:21

Just chill a bit - it’s only the second week back at school. Give them all a few weeks to settle in - teacher included - and then start complaining if things aren’t right.

With the shouting thing, I’m sure there’s more to it than meets the eye - perhaps several children were trying to talk to her at once? Perhaps your son spoke to her in a rude way, or perhaps she thought it was him shouting at her when it was actually another child? The end of the day is a stressful time.

Fluufer · 12/09/2024 17:21

I would cut her some slack. You sound quite demanding, they've only been back a few days. And for all you know, your DS has been shouting all day long.

PennyNotWise · 12/09/2024 17:22

In a few months you really won’t care about any of this

rainsofcastamere · 12/09/2024 17:22

• If you're in line for anything, no, you're not supposed to be approaching the teacher for anything. You child stepped out of the line and it annoyed the teacher. If she shouted and he didn't like it, then tell him not to get out of the line. He needs to learn to wait the same as everyone else.

@MrMucker

Yes, the other 4 & 5 year olds can manage to 'perform' correctly in the prison queue so why can't OPs?

Stop being so ridiculous about little children. She got annoyed because a little boy stepped out of a queue. What is it, Belsen?

If the primary school teacher gets the tit on about this then she's a shit teacher and should consider working as a prison officer.

Jojimoji · 12/09/2024 17:24

Petitchat · 12/09/2024 16:58

I don't think some posters are reading OP's posts properly.
Seems pretty clear to me.

Why are people sticking up for an abusive teacher?
Why can't people understand the book situation? It's simple, OP has followed the teacher's request.
Why are people blaming the child and OP?

I don't get it......

"Abusive teacher". Really????Come on.
We only have the OPs version of events and people are ready to jump in with this type of language.

I've been a teacher for 34 years. I love it. It's a vocation and I adore my kids. All of them.
But the changes in parental attitudes in the last decade are making the job unbearable.

Constant email demands.
Jumping in with both feet ready to accuse staff, other children or other parents without being willing to accept that maybe there's more to a situation than what your child has reported. Just a general lack of support really.

OP- forget about the book, don't expect instant answers to everything ( your child is only one of many) and if you are genuinely concerned about what you perceive to be her attitude towards your child, request a meeting and express your concerns face to face.

wellington77 · 12/09/2024 17:24

Chilli89 · 12/09/2024 15:54

I have already explained to her that he is struggling a bit about wanting to come in and I feel like this is just going to make things worse. He looked like he was going to burst into tears and was just looking at me

You need to inform the head teacher and make sure you tell her you witnessed it, if any other parents did , get them to corroborate the story. If he can move class do this if not personally I’d move school, your first few weeks at school can be life changing - massive impact on how you view school

Mainoo72 · 12/09/2024 17:25

Poor teacher. She’ll probably have left the profession within the year. I really feel for teachers these days.

lemmein · 12/09/2024 17:27

muggletops · 12/09/2024 16:50

I would have a word with her. I get fed up with people tiptoeing around teachers because they have 30+ kids to look after . that's their job, if they cant handle it - especially after having 6 weeks holiday, they are in the wrong job. we tell our kids to 'be kind'. In the real adult world, if I was shouted at like that by someone I would be livid. I would definitely say something to her. I'm angry for you (can you tell??!!) 😳

Yeah I agree with this -poor kid.

lazyarse123 · 12/09/2024 17:27

rainsofcastamere · 12/09/2024 17:22

• If you're in line for anything, no, you're not supposed to be approaching the teacher for anything. You child stepped out of the line and it annoyed the teacher. If she shouted and he didn't like it, then tell him not to get out of the line. He needs to learn to wait the same as everyone else.

@MrMucker

Yes, the other 4 & 5 year olds can manage to 'perform' correctly in the prison queue so why can't OPs?

Stop being so ridiculous about little children. She got annoyed because a little boy stepped out of a queue. What is it, Belsen?

If the primary school teacher gets the tit on about this then she's a shit teacher and should consider working as a prison officer.

Perfectly put. Not the job for her if she's this stressed two weeks in. And you can guarantee she'll pick on him for not reading the book he doesn't have and he'll be too little to explain. No wonder some kids hate school.

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